Tiberius Posted February 9 Author Posted February 9 51 minutes ago, yall said: Angling for votes in Dearborn. Israel has its hand on the lever of power to a far larger degree than voters from a swing state
AlBUNDY4TDS Posted February 9 Posted February 9 1 minute ago, Tiberius said: Israel has its hand on the lever of power to a far larger degree than voters from a swing state So they can't defend themselves from a terrorist group that wants to wipe them from existence? 1
yall Posted February 9 Posted February 9 9 minutes ago, sherpa said: Most of the world isn't Israel nor facing what they are facing at their border, which is a funded, trained terrorist organization that wants them and all their people eradicated. Most of the world didn't go through what their citizens did on oct 7. It was an ill-considered, unnecessary, almost flippant comment deeply criticizing our best ally and only democracy in the region, a region a spark away from conflagration. Evidently, it got huge play in all the Israeli press today. This guy should stop talking and just enjoy the next 11 months. When he speaks off the cuff, it is never good, and often senseless. It's like he and his VP were made for each other. 😂
Tiberius Posted February 9 Author Posted February 9 17 minutes ago, sherpa said: A) Most of the world isn't Israel nor facing what they are facing at their border, which is a funded, B) trained terrorist organization that wants them and all their people eradicated. A) Neither are you B) Tell that to the Palestians in the West Bank being murdered without consequences and having their land confiscated Acting like one side os totally innocent is silly 20 minutes ago, sherpa said: Most of the world didn't go through what their citizens did on oct 7. So that gives Israel the right to visit a 1000x the destruction on the vast majority of Palestinians who had nothing to do with the attack? You can admit the Palestinians are suffering way more than Israel did? Because they are 22 minutes ago, sherpa said: It was an ill-considered, unnecessary, almost flippant comment deeply criticizing our best ally and only democracy in the region, a region a spark away from conflagration. It wasn't flippant at all. Someone has to try and bring an end to this. And your point that a spark can set off the region? How about mass bombing of civilian areas, is that a spark enough? Your arguing against your own point 1
Tiberius Posted February 9 Author Posted February 9 24 minutes ago, sherpa said: Evidently, it got huge play in all the Israeli press today. Oh no! You mean they might hear a different point of view? The horror! And with hostages dying--at least 31 now--maybe a different approach is necessary to try and get the rest back to their families before its too late
AlBUNDY4TDS Posted February 9 Posted February 9 10 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Oh no! You mean they might hear a different point of view? The horror! And with hostages dying--at least 31 now--maybe a different approach is necessary to try and get the rest back to their families before its too late So what makes Palestine's right to defend themselves justified to u but not isreals? When you support hamas, ***** around and find out.
sherpa Posted February 9 Posted February 9 1 hour ago, Tiberius said: Acting like one side os totally innocent is silly You post this nonsense all the time, and you don't even realize how goofy it is. Nobody is totally innocent anywhere in any circumstance. The point is that to make unnecessary stupid comments that do nothing but insult your greatest ally involved in such a struggle is a stupid, unforced error that should be inexcusable for anyone representing a government. They should not let this guy off the leash. It never comes off well.
Doc Posted February 9 Posted February 9 Palestinians want all of Israel. That's what "From the river to the sea" means. They're never going to get it and that's why giving them a State won't solve anything.
sherpa Posted February 9 Posted February 9 51 minutes ago, Doc said: Palestinians want all of Israel. That's what "From the river to the sea" means. They're never going to get it and that's why giving them a State won't solve anything. You can't negotiate a state unless there is a governing authority to negotiate with. I have tried to make this point a few times. Who do the Israelis negotiate with? Hamas-determined to exterminate them? The Palestinian Authority led by an 88 year old Mahmoud Abbas? There is nobody to deal with. The Palestinian issue is an internal mess which provides no path to a solution. So.....They get Iranian aid and try to kill Israel. It's no more complicated than that, and until they provide a humane, rational leader, there is no other course other than to defend against their Iranian supported, funded and trained murderous Iranian subordinates.
B-Man Posted February 11 Posted February 11 IDF Uncovers Secret Hamas Data Center Directly Beneath UNRWA's Gaza HQ We’ve known that Hamas operates in hospitals and schools in Gaza, despite their heated denials. We've also known about the extensive terror tunnel network under the Strip, where they store weapons, hide hostages, and plan attacks. But a new find by the Israel Defense Forces is even more troubling – Hamas has been operating a sophisticated data center directly beneath the United Nations Agency for Palestinian Refugees (UNRWA), complete with an electrical room, industrial battery power banks, and living quarters for Hamas terrorists overseeing the computer operations. This is far from the first time the UNRWA has come under scrutiny: However, the new discovery is sobering because, among other things, the facility was “built precisely under the location where Israel would not consider looking initially, let alone target in an airstrike.” https://redstate.com/bobhoge/2024/02/10/idf-uncovers-secret-hamas-data-center-directly-beneath-unrwas-gaza-hq-n2169928 1 1
SCBills Posted February 11 Posted February 11 Somewhat related, but interesting nonetheless.. Kanye’s new album is #1 in pretty much every country .. including Israel .. so it seems all the corporate execs & Sharon Osborne’s of the world screeching about his antisemitism doesn’t register with those actually living in Israel.
US Egg Posted February 11 Posted February 11 (edited) 4 hours ago, B-Man said: IDF Uncovers Secret Hamas Data Center Directly Beneath UNRWA's Gaza HQ We’ve known that Hamas operates in hospitals and schools in Gaza, despite their heated denials. We've also known about the extensive terror tunnel network under the Strip, where they store weapons, hide hostages, and plan attacks. But a new find by the Israel Defense Forces is even more troubling – Hamas has been operating a sophisticated data center directly beneath the United Nations Agency for Palestinian Refugees (UNRWA), complete with an electrical room, industrial battery power banks, and living quarters for Hamas terrorists overseeing the computer operations. This is far from the first time the UNRWA has come under scrutiny: However, the new discovery is sobering because, among other things, the facility was “built precisely under the location where Israel would not consider looking initially, let alone target in an airstrike.” https://redstate.com/bobhoge/2024/02/10/idf-uncovers-secret-hamas-data-center-directly-beneath-unrwas-gaza-hq-n2169928 Yeah, they didn’t know, they vow they thoroughly inspect their facilities: https://www.unrwa.org/installations-neutrality And what did Traitor Joe do when he became President? Reverse Trumps edict of cutting off their funding, and gave them between $300 and $400 million a year. Biden supports terrorists and Russia, the Left want more of it. Edited February 11 by US Egg 1
Doc Posted February 11 Posted February 11 12 minutes ago, US Egg said: Yeah, they didn’t know, they vow they thoroughly inspect their facilities: https://www.unrwa.org/installations-neutrality And what did Traitor Joe do when he became President? Reverse Trumps edict of cutting off their funding, and gave them between $300 and $400 million a year. Biden supports terrorists and Russia, the Left want more of it. Maybe they will let them skate because they're senile? 1
B-Man Posted February 12 Posted February 12 IDF Rescues Two Hostages in City Biden Wants Israel to Leave Alone ED MORRISSEY https://hotair.com/ed-morrissey/2024/02/12/idf-rescues-two-hostages-in-city-biden-wants-israel-to-leave-alone-n3782770 .
B-Man Posted February 12 Posted February 12 Elizabeth Warren's Vile Tweet Her very first assertion blames the Israeli government for 'failing' to "get the hostages released" (which looks even worse now, in light of last night's heroic rescue). Did Hamas draft this? Even if one believes Israel could or should be doing things differently -- including acceding to all sorts of outrageous demands from the hostages' captors -- in order to secure the remaining (non-murdered) victims' freedom, at the very least, some acknowledgement of Hamas' responsibility for the entire ordeal is in order. I scrolled back through her entire feed, reviewing every post from January 1 forward. Sifting through her many tweets promoting limitless abortion, and various economically-illiterate rants about corporate 'greed,' I identified six tweets mentioning the Israel/Hamas conflict that she has published this year. Every single one of them is either a direct criticism of Israel, or a reference to further scrutinizing or limiting US aid to Israel. The terrorists who massacred hundreds of innocents, and who continue to hold hostages (including children and Americans), earned zero mentions -- let alone criticisms. https://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybenson/2024/02/12/elizabeth-warrens-appalling-tweet-n2634974
Doc Posted February 12 Posted February 12 2 hours ago, B-Man said: Elizabeth Warren's Vile Tweet Her very first assertion blames the Israeli government for 'failing' to "get the hostages released" (which looks even worse now, in light of last night's heroic rescue). Did Hamas draft this? Even if one believes Israel could or should be doing things differently -- including acceding to all sorts of outrageous demands from the hostages' captors -- in order to secure the remaining (non-murdered) victims' freedom, at the very least, some acknowledgement of Hamas' responsibility for the entire ordeal is in order. I scrolled back through her entire feed, reviewing every post from January 1 forward. Sifting through her many tweets promoting limitless abortion, and various economically-illiterate rants about corporate 'greed,' I identified six tweets mentioning the Israel/Hamas conflict that she has published this year. Every single one of them is either a direct criticism of Israel, or a reference to further scrutinizing or limiting US aid to Israel. The terrorists who massacred hundreds of innocents, and who continue to hold hostages (including children and Americans), earned zero mentions -- let alone criticisms. https://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybenson/2024/02/12/elizabeth-warrens-appalling-tweet-n2634974 Who knew Native Americans were so anti-semitic? 1
Justice Posted February 13 Posted February 13 If you seen what I seen you guys would not support Israel. Your algorithm on social media sites show you what you want to see. I purposely watch both sides of coverage so my algorithm is as fair as possible. It’s horrible. You guys have no clue what’s going on. And if you do you’re despicable people and one day you will be judged. We will all have our day in front of the Lord. Laugh now, cry later. 2 1
ComradeKayAdams Posted February 13 Posted February 13 On 2/9/2024 at 5:05 PM, sherpa said: You can't negotiate a state unless there is a governing authority to negotiate with. I have tried to make this point a few times. Who do the Israelis negotiate with? Hamas-determined to exterminate them? The Palestinian Authority led by an 88 year old Mahmoud Abbas? There is nobody to deal with. The Palestinian issue is an internal mess which provides no path to a solution. So.....They get Iranian aid and try to kill Israel. It's no more complicated than that, and until they provide a humane, rational leader, there is no other course other than to defend against their Iranian supported, funded and trained murderous Iranian subordinates. Yes! Israel should negotiate with the Palestinian Authority and the PLO, at the behest of (and collaboration with) the United States and the global community. Israel’s response to 10/7 has advanced way beyond self-defense and has now firmly entered the category of “ethnic cleansing.” As famine spreads, the category of “genocide” will become apt (if it isn’t already). What defines an actionable “victory” over Hamas, anyway? That has never been made clear to anyone…curiously enough. What Israel’s far-right government leaders have unfortunately made crystal clear is that a two-state (and presumably also a one-state) solution is off the table. Therefore, the United States should respond by cutting off all aid and participating in an international BDS movement until Israel accedes. Posterity is looking down upon us all, with great disdain, for our collective moral turpitude and cowardice regarding the plight of the Gazans…only three generations removed from the Holocaust, no less! If you’re a religious person, you have to figure that God isn’t too happy with us all right now, either. 2
Doc Posted February 13 Posted February 13 2 hours ago, Justice said: If you seen what I seen you guys would not support Israel. Your algorithm on social media sites show you what you want to see. I purposely watch both sides of coverage so my algorithm is as fair as possible. It’s horrible. You guys have no clue what’s going on. And if you do you’re despicable people and one day you will be judged. We will all have our day in front of the Lord. Laugh now, cry later. People make stupid decisions that seem like a good idea prior. Sometimes you have to live with the consequences of them. 1
sherpa Posted February 13 Posted February 13 1 hour ago, ComradeKayAdams said: Israel’s response to 10/7 has advanced way beyond self-defense and has now firmly entered the category of “ethnic cleansing.” As famine spreads, the category of “genocide” will become apt (if it isn’t already). In this case, Israel's definition of "self defense" is the elimination of Hamas. I don't have a problem with eliminating Hamas. They have defined the battlefield, and the battlefield determines the tactics. 3
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