Israel and Iran

[aristocrat]

4 minutes ago, Justice said:

They’re charging their phones using energy created on a bicycle. How embarrass for you. 

lol I’m sure they all have bikes powering phones over there. Found one video of a guy doing it. Could I be wrong? Sure. More likely hamas spreading lies. 
 

just like the video of the kid they said had his arms broken by the Israeli prison only for Israel to show the video of the kid walking out of jail perfectly healthy 

[Justice]

30 minutes ago, aristocrat said:

lol I’m sure they all have bikes powering phones over there. Found one video of a guy doing it. Could I be wrong? Sure. More likely hamas spreading lies. 
 

just like the video of the kid they said had his arms broken by the Israeli prison only for Israel to show the video of the kid walking out of jail perfectly healthy 

You see what you choose to see. Some ppl watch that video and notice he’s not using his handing and his shoulder is slumped. It could be a lie. Maybe it isn’t. 

6 hours ago, Irv said:

C'mon already.  Will somebody, anybody nuke Gaza?  Enough playing around.  

Bro I think your mom’s ***** got nuked when you were conceived. 

[Irv]

2 hours ago, Justice said:

You see what you choose to see. Some ppl watch that video and notice he’s not using his handing and his shoulder is slumped. It could be a lie. Maybe it isn’t. 

Bro I think your mom’s ***** got nuked when you were conceived. 

***** you #######.  Say that to my face B word. 

[Justice]

8 minutes ago, Irv said:

***** you #######.  Say that to my face B word. 

[Biden is Mentally Fit]

41 minutes ago, Irv said:

***** you #######.  Say that to my face B word. 

John from Riverside is trying to take you seriously. 

[All_Pro_Bills]

16 hours ago, Tiberius said:

Russia viciously seized the area. 

 

The false elections you guys are using as evidence that these people want to stay in Russia were frauds. Crimea is obviously part of Ukraine and not Russia

 

The "none of  our business" argument is also crap. Russia wants the Crimea for the Black Sea naval fleet to send out it's evil ships to cause mischief. Russia quest for warm waters ports comes at the expense of the free nations of the world. F them 

It is none of our business and if we minded our own business the Minsk Accords that established a peaceful compromise most likely would never have been violated and there would have been no conflict.  Ukraine is of no consequence to US security interests.  Never has been, never will be.  Maybe its important only because the corruption inside the country has been a major income stream for the Biden's and their associates?

 

You can swallow all the war and nation building propaganda coming out of Washington, presenting themselves as hero's of democracy, you'd like but at some point even the most clueless among us has to accept the reality these neocon/neoliberal nation building interventions have been complete and utter failures with the only benefits going to those selling and marketing instruments and weapons of war while leaving the US taxpayer with trillion dollar debts and the predictable trail of death and destruction.  This is another of the long line of failures that has left another country in shambles and our nation's standing in the world order weaker.  And with the conflict with Israel and Hamas/Iran likely to continue for who knows how long, my bet is the crew in Washington is losing interest in Zelensky and company and like a child at Christmas is bored and ready to play with their next shinny new toy.  End of story.

 

 

Edited December 5, 2023 by All_Pro_Bills

[Tiberius]

34 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

It is none of our business and if we minded our own business the Minsk Accords that established a peaceful compromise most likely would never have been violated and there would have been no conflict.  Ukraine is of no consequence to US security interests.  Never has been, never will be.  Maybe its important only because the corruption inside the country has been a major income stream for the Biden's and their associates?

 

You can swallow all the war and nation building propaganda coming out of Washington, presenting themselves as hero's of democracy, you'd like but at some point even the most clueless among us has to accept the reality these neocon/neoliberal nation building interventions have been complete and utter failures with the only benefits going to those selling and marketing instruments and weapons of war while leaving the US taxpayer with trillion dollar debts and the predictable trail of death and destruction.  This is another of the long line of failures that has left another country in shambles and our nation's standing in the world order weaker.  And with the conflict with Israel and Hamas/Iran likely to continue for who knows how long, my bet is the crew in Washington is losing interest in Zelensky and company and like a child at Christmas is bored and ready to play with their next shinny new toy.  End of story.

 

 

It's a war for democracy. Obviously you are not into that. Vote for Trump if you want the authoritarians to win, like all the other MAGA's on this board. 

 

 

[Tommy Callahan]

3 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

It's a war for democracy. Obviously you are not into that. Vote for Trump if you want the authoritarians to win, like all the other MAGA's on this board. 

1. the orange dude owns you

2. Palestinians voted for HAMAS.

3. did you think you were posting on the Ukrainian article?

 

 

[Tiberius]

Just now, Tommy Callahan said:

1. the orange dude owns you

2. Palestinians voted for HAMAS.

3. did you think you were posting on the Ukrainian article?

 

 

You are a pos, you always will be so f off scum bag 

[Tommy Callahan]

Just now, Tiberius said:

You are a pos, you always will be so f off scum bag 

The ad hominem means I am directly over target, and you have no valid reply.

 

have a good one.

 

 

[aristocrat]

14 hours ago, Justice said:

You see what you choose to see. Some ppl watch that video and notice he’s not using his handing and his shoulder is slumped. It could be a lie. Maybe it isn’t. 

Bro I think your mom’s ***** got nuked when you were conceived. 

 

14 hours ago, aristocrat said:

lol I’m sure they all have bikes powering phones over there. Found one video of a guy doing it. Could I be wrong? Sure. More likely hamas spreading lies. 
 

just like the video of the kid they said had his arms broken by the Israeli prison only for Israel to show the video of the kid walking out of jail perfectly healthy 

lol when you you have to resort to that kind of analysis on a film of a kid walking just admit Hamas faked the casts. Come on

[Tommy Callahan]

 

[Justice]

26 minutes ago, aristocrat said:

 

lol when you you have to resort to that kind of analysis on a film of a kid walking just admit Hamas faked the casts. Come on

There is a list bro 

[Tommy Callahan]

 

[The Frankish Reich]

19 hours ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

Historically, its not Ukraine's land.  That land was part of Russia for centuries.  It was transferred to the Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic by decree of a series of Russian dictators.  In 1991 the Soviet Union ceased to exist.  And the legitimacy of and power to enforce those decrees died with the USSR.

No it didn't. That is not how it works under international law.

And on the larger point: one could say the same thing about Israel - "historically, it [Palestine] is not Israel's land." Israel, like modern Ukraine, exists as a legal state through international law. 

 

19 hours ago, Tommy Callahan said:

And your aware Ukraine gained independence when Russia fell.

You mean when the USSR dissolved. The USSR was not Russia. The "Republics" of the USSR became independent states.

[Tommy Callahan]

A list like this

 

https://canarymission.org/

 

 

Damn

[Tiberius]

GOP House still not moving on aid to Israel. 

[Tommy Callahan]

5 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said:

No it didn't. That is not how it works under international law.

And on the larger point: one could say the same thing about Israel - "historically, it [Palestine] is not Israel's land." Israel, like modern Ukraine, exists as a legal state through international law. 

 

You mean when the USSR dissolved. The USSR was not Russia. The "Republics" of the USSR became independent states.

And it wasn't Ukraine either.  Links were provided 

[The Frankish Reich]

Just now, Tommy Callahan said:

And it wasn't Ukraine either.  Links were provided 

I'd like to think you aren't spouting Russian propaganda. Really, I'd like to think that. But you are just plain wrong here, whatever the basis.

It is true that Ukraine was not historically an independent entity. Neither was the United States of America. Neither was Israel. Neither was Jordan, initially known as Transjordan. None of that advances the argument. The fact is Ukraine is, and has been, and independent state for three decades.

[Tommy Callahan]