Justice Posted November 27, 2023 Posted November 27, 2023 On 11/26/2023 at 11:28 AM, B-Man said: Don't deal with Terrorists. Obama-era deal to allow Hamas office in Qatar backfired on US: experts by Peter Aitken The U.S. played a direct role in helping set up the Hamas office in Qatar during the Obama administration, seeking appeasement and soft diplomacy but ultimately failing to control the terrorist group as it festered in Gaza. "For many years now, both the United States and Israel have been living in a policy fantasy world where we have tolerated Hamas' existence in Doha and believed that Doha would be a moderating influence," Richard Goldberg, the coordinator for the Trump administration’s maximum pressure campaign on Iran, told Fox News Digital. "That thesis was disproven on Oct. 7, so whatever has happened in the last few years https://www.foxnews.com/us/obama-era-deal-allow-hamas-office-qatar-backfired-us-experts . And Netanyahu handed Hamas tons of dollars too. Funny how that always works this way. Al Qaeda and the Taliban as well. Strange coincidences. Or are we just stupid? Or maybe insane? Because doing the same things over and over again and expecting different results is insanity. 7 hours ago, B-Man said: Social media mogul Elon Musk will reportedly meet Monday in Israel with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and other leaders in the country, amid accusations by civil rights groups that he amplified anti-Jewish hate speech on his platform X, formerly named Twitter. https://www.offthepress.com/musk-to-meet-with-netanyahu-other-israel-leaders-following-controversial-reposts/ . He’s already banned the slogan “from the river to the sea…”. It’s crazy how even a man with F you money has to bend the knee. I was hoping that someone, hell anyone, would have brought up the fact that the Israeli death count is down to around 1,200 now and most of those were military and a lot of the Israeli civilians were gunned down by the Israelis themselves. Yes even one death is inexcusable. but like Ben Shapiro likes to say, “facts don’t care about your feelings”. Burnt bodies might have been at the hands of the Israelis as well now that we’re seeing burnt Palestinians along with them. Bulldozed homes in the Kibbutz? Israeli tanks did that. Can y’all be that so one sided that you can’t even point any of this stuff out? I know you all seen it. And another thing. What do you guys feel about that commercial airing on Fox News asking for $45 donations for ‘bomb shelters and food that is running short’? Don’t we give enough? Is their food really running out? The ad even showed apartments and cars on fire as if that were ongoing. It’s misleading and insulting the intelligence of all of us. Idk who’s responsible for that commercial, but whomever it is lacks integrity. 1 1
LeviF Posted November 28, 2023 Posted November 28, 2023 The unintended implication here is pretty funny. 1 1
B-Man Posted November 28, 2023 Posted November 28, 2023 Musk Tours Terror Sites With Netanyahu, 'No Choice but to Kill Those Who Insist on Murdering Civilians' By Bob Hoge https://redstate.com/bobhoge/2023/11/28/musk-tours-terror-sites-with-netanyahu-in-israel-says-those-intent-on-murder-must-be-neutralized-n2166899
B-Man Posted November 28, 2023 Posted November 28, 2023 Hamas Keeps Violating Ceasefire Agreement DAVID STROM I keep coming back to the hostages, not only because of the terror and suffering that they are experiencing but also because they are a constant refutation of the arguments that all Hamas supporters make about the legitimacy of Hamas’ actions. Hamas supporters keep arguing that the terror attacks of 10/7 were a legitimate or at least understandable military strike against Israel’s (nonexistent) occupation of Gaza. Palestinians understandably struck out against the oppressive tyranny of Israel, they argue, and this was the only or the best way they could. This argument, of course, glosses over the inconvenient fact that Israel was not occupying Gaza and that the “military” strike was nothing but a pogrom that included rape, torture, murder, and desecration of bodies. But apparently, the specifics of Hamas’ actions are irrelevant to them; it was the powerless striking out at the powerful. This argument is wrong and justifies evil, but it has a certain logic if you squint and ignore human decency and the facts of the case. But then…the hostages. There is no case to be made that taking hostages is a military tactic of any sort, and unlike the rapes and beheadings, you can’t argue that they are simply propaganda. Hamas is using the hostages, undeniably. The entire cease-fire is predicated on staged hostage releases. https://hotair.com/david-strom/2023/11/28/hamas-keeps-violating-ceasefire-agreement-n594994 1
Andy1 Posted November 29, 2023 Posted November 29, 2023 If you don’t know him, he is the son of the co-founder of Hamas. He was raised as Hamas. He is speaking out very publicly against all the evil that is Hamas and that which is supported by many Palestinian people. The world needs many more people like him from Arab nations speaking the hard truths. 3 2
Tommy Callahan Posted November 29, 2023 Posted November 29, 2023 10 hours ago, SCBills said: Punt Oakland into the sun just give them a mic and they openly tell us what they are. The amount of Attaching negative stereotypes based on RACE and Sex, to Terrorist sympathizing is off the charts. These are the same voices saying to take the shot or go die just last year. 1
B-Man Posted November 29, 2023 Posted November 29, 2023 TRADING TERRORISTS FOR HOSTAGES “Swaps of captives resume after brief protest by Hamas,” read the top headline in the Washington Post on Sunday. But the “captives” set free by Israel had all been arrested or already convicted of such crimes as stabbing, shooting, and attempted suicide bombing, while the “captives” released by Hamas are all innocent women and children dragged from their homes in flagrant violation of international law. In what legal or moral universe is there any equivalence between the two? The Israelis are releasing three terrorists for every civilian hostage returned. Other components of the deal include Israelis allowing hundreds of truckloads of fuel and other supplies into Gaza, knowing full well that Hamas will steal as much as possible from the Palestinian civilians for whom the aid is intended. That’s what Hamas’s “protest” was about. The terrorist group wanted aid supplied to areas the Israelis have declared military zones. The delay ended when the Israelis made clear they would be pushed no further. So long as at least 10 hostages per day are released, the Israeli Defense Forces are “pausing” military operations against Hamas commanders and fighters, most believed to be sheltering in a network of multi-billion-dollars tunnels. Will this deal result in more Israeli soldiers being killed? Almost certainly. But Israeli soldiers believe it is their duty to save civilians. Hamas’s leaders, by contrast, believe it is the duty of civilians to save them. And Hamas leaders know that dead Gazans produce propaganda wins. More at the link: https://www.fdd.org/analysis/2023/11/29/trading-terrorists-for-hostages/ 1
B-Man Posted November 30, 2023 Posted November 30, 2023 Democrat Support for Israel Is Beginning to Crumble DAVID STROM In the wake of the anti-Israel protests that have been fracturing the Democrat base, the expected collapse of Democrat support for Israel is beginning. As Ed wrote earlier today, the Biden Administration is signaling that its support for Israel is waning, although they insist that it isn’t. They have walked back their tweet that suggested Israel was committing atrocities and that a “permanent” cease-fire should be on the table. https://hotair.com/david-strom/2023/11/29/democrat-support-for-israel-is-beginning-to-crumble-n595556 1 1
SCBills Posted November 30, 2023 Posted November 30, 2023 I’m so absolutely sick of these people. 1 1 1
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