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26 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

You ask really silly questions. 

 

Sanders spoke for 6+ minutes and offered platitudes and nothing else.  My point originally, which you chose to ignore, was that instead of yammering on about deaths "per capita" (what a creepy thing to say), was simply that the time to release hostages was immediately after they were taken.   This old fool spent more time saying nothing about something than you often do--and you're very good at that. 

 

He couldn't bring himself to demand an immediate and unconditional release of all the hostages by Hamas.   No, instead he lectured Israel about the hazard of being enraged about their innocent men, women and children being butchered. 

 


 

This is not true. He talked of a proposal. You missed that. You call my question silly yet you can't even get simple facts straight 

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Just now, Tiberius said:

This is not true. He talked of a proposal. You missed that. You call my question silly yet you can't even get simple facts straight 

Your question was silly because I commented on Sanders comments, and that lead you to ask if the children of Gazans were terrorists.   "Silly" was me being kind to you, and for that you are welcome.

 

He lectured for 6 minutes.  He could have demanded the immediate and unconditional release of all hostages, but he didn't, for reasons unknown.  Based on his love of cold war Soviet-style government, one can only assume. 

 

 

 

 

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2 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

Your question was silly because I commented on Sanders comments, and that lead you to ask if the children of Gazans were terrorists.   "Silly" was me being kind to you, and for that you are welcome.

 

He lectured for 6 minutes.  He could have demanded the immediate and unconditional release of all hostages, but he didn't, for reasons unknown.  Based on his love of cold war Soviet-style government, one can only assume. 

 

 

 

 

But you were wrong about what he said. Not silly because you acted like all Palestians were responsible, which IS silly 

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11 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

But you were wrong about what he said. Not silly because you acted like all Palestians were responsible, which IS silly 

 

The Palestinians voted Hamas into office.  All have blood on their hands.  Nuke 'em.  

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9 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

But you were wrong about what he said. Not silly because you acted like all Palestians were responsible, which IS silly 

Of the three parties to this conversation--Sanders, Tibs, and me--the only person who brought up the collective responsibility of all Palestinians was you.  Why, I cannot say. 

 

Even now, you're fixated on that subject and even refuse to acknowledge the truth and common sense of what I stated:  Bernie Sanders should have demanded the immediate and unconditional response of all hostages.  The time was not "now", the time commenced on 10/7 and has repeated daily until this very moment. 

 

Why are you against the immediate and unconditional release of the hostages?  In fact, would you not agree that the innocent citizens of Gaza should be joining the rest of the free world in demanding their immediate release? 

 

Some things are not complicated, Tibs. 

 

 

 

 

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24 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

Of the three parties to this conversation--Sanders, Tibs, and me--the only person who brought up the collective responsibility of all Palestinians was you.   

 

 

 

 

Not true 

28 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

 

 

Even now, you're fixated on that subject and even refuse to acknowledge the truth and common sense of what I stated:  Bernie Sanders should have demanded the immediate and unconditional response of all hostages.   

 

He did. Get your facts straight 

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10 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Not true 

He did. Get your facts straight 

 

5 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

You are one stupid idiot. 

 

Do you smoke human sh it or something? 

You're coming unglued, Tibs.  I think you're conflicted.  I think you know that the hostages should be returned immediately, no questions asked and Sanders should have said so.  I think you think that Hamas releasing them weakens their negotiating position and in the end, you're pro-Palestinian and that includes quiet support for the actions of Hamas.  That's not to say I think you're pre-terror, I just think you've rationalized the actions of Hamas and Palestinians as...necessary.    

 

I think you're all sorts of turned around, and people like Bernie Sanders gives you cover to proceed with your support of actions you should condemn.  

 

What I may/may not be smoking is completely irrelevant to your actions, but damn you really know how to supersize the creep factor on things to smoke!

 

 

 

 

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3 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

 

You're coming unglued, Tibs.  

 

 

 

 

No, that's you, accusing people of stuff you only wish they believed. That's what idiots do. 

 

I'm calming responding to your idiocy. No sweat of my brow

 

 

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Crazy stuff 

 

https://www.cnn.com/middleeast/live-news/israel-hamas-war-gaza-news-10-30-23#h_76166b7d40c52307181d55ebbcb44e45

47 min ago

Hamas releases new hostage video showing 3 women 

From CNN’s Eyad Kourdi, Lianne Kolirin, Amir Tal, Hadas Gold, Adam Levine, Stephanie Halasz and Richard Allen Greene 

Hamas on Monday released a short video showing three women who are believed to be captives held by the Palestinian militant group since its terror attack on Israel on October 7.

The hostage video is only the second released by Hamas since more than 200 people were taken into Gaza. It appears as intended to undermine Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu with pointed criticism over his leadership by the detained women.

The video shows them seated in plastic chairs facing the camera, while the woman in the middle addresses Netanyahu directly with increasing fury. 

She makes reference to a press conference by families of the hostages “yesterday,” suggesting it was filmed on Monday.

The video comes just days after progress in hostage negotiations fell through, a fact referenced by the speaker who mentions a supposed “ceasefire.” Israeli leaders Friday dismissed talks of a breakthrough in talks as a rumor as they announced an expansion of the ground campaign.

The woman speaks fluently and does not appear to be reading from a script, but because the women are hostages, the statement could have been made under duress. 

“You promised to release us all,” she says, suggesting she is aware of hostage negotiations. She finishes with a demand to “free us all,” screaming: “Now! Now! Now!”

Relatives of the hostages have named the women as Elena Trupanov, Danielle Alony and Ramon Kirsht. Aloni is the speaker. 

The women do not show visible signs of physical mistreatment, but CNN is unable to verify anything about their circumstances or well-being. 

Netanyahu’s office confirmed the names in a brief statement, addressing the women, "who were kidnapped by Hamas who commits war crimes."

"I hug you. Our hearts go out to you and the other abductees. We are doing everything to bring all the kidnapped and missing people home," the office statement read.

Israeli television channels 11 and 12 are showing a still from the video on air. Channel 13 is not, saying on air it is honoring a request from the relatives.

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7 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Crazy stuff 

 

https://www.cnn.com/middleeast/live-news/israel-hamas-war-gaza-news-10-30-23#h_76166b7d40c52307181d55ebbcb44e45

47 min ago

Hamas releases new hostage video showing 3 women 

From CNN’s Eyad Kourdi, Lianne Kolirin, Amir Tal, Hadas Gold, Adam Levine, Stephanie Halasz and Richard Allen Greene 

Hamas on Monday released a short video showing three women who are believed to be captives held by the Palestinian militant group since its terror attack on Israel on October 7.

The hostage video is only the second released by Hamas since more than 200 people were taken into Gaza. It appears as intended to undermine Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu with pointed criticism over his leadership by the detained women.

The video shows them seated in plastic chairs facing the camera, while the woman in the middle addresses Netanyahu directly with increasing fury. 

She makes reference to a press conference by families of the hostages “yesterday,” suggesting it was filmed on Monday.

The video comes just days after progress in hostage negotiations fell through, a fact referenced by the speaker who mentions a supposed “ceasefire.” Israeli leaders Friday dismissed talks of a breakthrough in talks as a rumor as they announced an expansion of the ground campaign.

The woman speaks fluently and does not appear to be reading from a script, but because the women are hostages, the statement could have been made under duress. 

“You promised to release us all,” she says, suggesting she is aware of hostage negotiations. She finishes with a demand to “free us all,” screaming: “Now! Now! Now!”

Relatives of the hostages have named the women as Elena Trupanov, Danielle Alony and Ramon Kirsht. Aloni is the speaker. 

The women do not show visible signs of physical mistreatment, but CNN is unable to verify anything about their circumstances or well-being. 

Netanyahu’s office confirmed the names in a brief statement, addressing the women, "who were kidnapped by Hamas who commits war crimes."

"I hug you. Our hearts go out to you and the other abductees. We are doing everything to bring all the kidnapped and missing people home," the office statement read.

Israeli television channels 11 and 12 are showing a still from the video on air. Channel 13 is not, saying on air it is honoring a request from the relatives.

Damn. media is publishing terrorist hostage videos, and someone believes the words the captives are saying.

 

you don't negotiate with terrorist.  They are not a militant group no matter how many times the same voices try to legitimize terrorism.

 

Glad the families of them don't have to watch that horrible propaganda.

 

 

 

 

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Well, this will sure move the world forward 😟

 

More children killed in Gaza than in global conflicts annually over past 4 years, Save the Children says

From CNN Staff

The number of children reported killed in Gaza during Israel’s military campaign over the past three weeks has surpassed the annual number of children killed in armed conflict globally in each of the past four years, according to Save the Children.

More than 3,000 children have been reported killed in Gaza since October 7 by the enclave's Hamas-controlled health authorities. 

 

https://www.cnn.com/middleeast/live-news/israel-hamas-war-gaza-news-10-30-23/h_4ca9897b094d242a3994b1e7b901ebf1

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33 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Well, this will sure move the world forward 😟

 

More children killed in Gaza than in global conflicts annually over past 4 years, Save the Children says

From CNN Staff

The number of children reported killed in Gaza during Israel’s military campaign over the past three weeks has surpassed the annual number of children killed in armed conflict globally in each of the past four years, according to Save the Children.

More than 3,000 children have been reported killed in Gaza since October 7 by the enclave's Hamas-controlled health authorities. 

 

https://www.cnn.com/middleeast/live-news/israel-hamas-war-gaza-news-10-30-23/h_4ca9897b094d242a3994b1e7b901ebf1

 

Sorry but will need proof of this. 

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