Justice Posted February 22 Posted February 22 10 hours ago, Andy1 said: Hamas started this war and Israel will decide when it ends. After this war is over, Palestinians need to focus on building a society that provides a better future for their children. The delusional idea of eliminating Israel must end. Muslim leaders will need to speak about peace. It’s difficult but can it be done if the people desire for a better, different future. Cambodia, Vietnam, Japan and other nations have experienced horrific wars and turned towards peace afterwards. Nationhood will never happen without peace. If they don’t do that, the dead end cycle of violence will continue. With or without peace a Palestinian state will not exist. At least not in our lifetime. The Israelis made that clear this week. 99 out of 120 votes was against the creation of a Palestinian state. And they refuse to give Palestinians equal rights under a one state solution. They’re gonna keep their feet firmly pressed down on the Palestinians throat. Watch the clip I provided below. This isn’t as one sided as you think it is. Many have gotten killed in the West Bank. You can’t justify that. They’ve been provoking the Palestinians in those areas for a while now. They want them to retaliate so they can take even more land. The West Bank is next. Wait and see. I maintained from day one Gaza is a land grab and I will be proven to be correct and then sometime in the near future the PA controlled territories are next. This is a game of chess and the Israelis are winning. They pushed the Gazans over and over until they snapped. Only a matter of time before the Palestinians in the WB lose it too. The dream and goal is to have a Jewish state. The Palestinians are standing in the way. Treat people like animals and eventually they become animalistic. Before the conflict people were making $1.25 per day in Gaza. How long can anyone put up with that before they go insane? 1
sherpa Posted February 22 Posted February 22 The Houthis have issued a "ban" on shipping from Israeli, US, or British flagged vessels in international waters near them. Not sure what offensive capability they have to enforce this "ban," but I sure wish the US and UK would respond with undeniable force. This has gone on long enough. Freedom of shipping has been a cornerstone of civilized commerce for centuries. It is time to act. 1
Justice Posted February 23 Posted February 23 16 hours ago, sherpa said: The Houthis have issued a "ban" on shipping from Israeli, US, or British flagged vessels in international waters near them. Not sure what offensive capability they have to enforce this "ban," but I sure wish the US and UK would respond with undeniable force. This has gone on long enough. Freedom of shipping has been a cornerstone of civilized commerce for centuries. It is time to act. Oh the irony 2
Tiberius Posted February 23 Author Posted February 23 https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2024/02/23/netanyahu-gaza-day-after/ JERUSALEM — Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu released a proposal early Friday for Israel’s indefinite military control of Gaza, repeating hard-line stances he has made before but still surprising the public by putting it all in writing as a concrete postwar plan.
B-Man Posted February 25 Posted February 25 Joe Biden Tries to Give a Massive Gift to Hamas, Israel Tells Him to Pound Sand FTA: Any "solution" to the war in Gaza that doesn't include the complete removal of Hamas as a governing force is not a solution. It's simply a massive gift to terrorists who will inevitably strike again, leading to yet another war and yet more death and destruction. The United States, Europe, and the dictators at the UN can either figure that out or get out of the way. https://redstate.com/bonchie/2024/02/25/joe-biden-gives-israel-a-new-edict-and-a-massive-gift-to-hamas-n2170542 .
Tiberius Posted February 25 Author Posted February 25 https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2024/02/25/israel-hamas-war-news-gaza-palestine/ Officials negotiating Gaza cease-fire talks have tentatively agreed to the “basic contours” of a deal, White House national security adviser Jake Sullivan said Sunday, adding that the United States hopes a final agreement can be reached “in the coming days.” Sullivan, speaking on CNN’s “State of the Union,” declined to give specifics but urged negotiators to move swiftly on any deal, which could see ramped-up aid to Gaza and the release of some hostages still held by Hamas. “We hope that in the coming days, we can drive to a point where there is actually a firm and final agreement on this issue,” he said. “So we are telling everyone, including the Israeli government, that it is our firm position that every effort be exercised to get to this agreement, and then we can move forward from there.” Sullivan’s remarks came after a round of talks was held in Paris on Friday, when officials from Israel, Egypt, the United States and Qatar, which acts as an intermediary for Hamas, met to discuss a new framework for a deal. Negotiations had stalled over the past few weeks after Israeli forces pressed further into Gaza and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu called Hamas’s cease-fire demands “delusional.” But on Saturday, Netanyahu said he was convening his war cabinet to deliberate the new framework, after which they would decide whether to move forward with negotiations. It was unclear Sunday whether the government approved new talks, but reports in Israeli media, citing unnamed officials, said the cabinet responded positively to the proposal. The next step, according to Sullivan, will include discussions by Qatar and Egypt with Hamas. “That work is underway,” he said.
Biden is Mentally Fit Posted February 26 Posted February 26 I guess this has been a learning experience for Hamas.
Westside Posted February 26 Posted February 26 13 minutes ago, JDHillFan said: I guess this has been a learning experience for Hamas. So he’s totally fine with the mass killings hamas did on October 7th, but is shocked by the response of Israel? This idiot sounds like the mush brain leftists on here. Absolutely evil.
sherpa Posted February 26 Posted February 26 Houthis expanding attempts to disrupt commerce. The Houthis tried to ambush an El Al airliner travelling from Thailand to Israel. The Houthis got on an enroute air traffic control VHF frequency, pretending to be ATC, and directed the El Al flight to turn in a direction that would take them into airspace where they have some capability to attack the passenger flight. Fortunately, the El AL cockpit crew didn't trust the transmissions, and reverted to data link, (non voice) only com with ATC. That would have been an absolute disaster with far reaching ramifications.,
Coffeesforclosers Posted February 26 Posted February 26 20 minutes ago, sherpa said: Houthis expanding attempts to disrupt commerce. The Houthis tried to ambush an El Al airliner travelling from Thailand to Israel. The Houthis got on an enroute air traffic control VHF frequency, pretending to be ATC, and directed the El Al flight to turn in a direction that would take them into airspace where they have some capability to attack the passenger flight. Fortunately, the El AL cockpit crew didn't trust the transmissions, and reverted to data link, (non voice) only com with ATC. That would have been an absolute disaster with far reaching ramifications., Well done to whoever trained that flight crew.
Andy1 Posted February 26 Posted February 26 On 2/22/2024 at 11:14 AM, Justice said: With or without peace a Palestinian state will not exist. At least not in our lifetime. The Israelis made that clear this week. 99 out of 120 votes was against the creation of a Palestinian state. And they refuse to give Palestinians equal rights under a one state solution. I think you’re right on this. Hamas effectively killed any possibility of a state in outperform lifetime. On 2/22/2024 at 11:14 AM, Justice said: This isn’t as one sided as you think it is. Many have gotten killed in the West Bank. You can’t justify that. They’ve been provoking the Palestinians in those areas for a while now. They want them to retaliate so they can take even more land. The West Bank is next. Wait and see. I maintained from day one Gaza is a land grab and I will be proven to be correct and then sometime in the near future the PA controlled territories are next. From what I’ve seen, Israel’s military operates with impunity. If Palestinians die, there is no justice. Unfortunately, I don’t see this changing either, unless the UN moves in to police. I can see Israel occupying Gaza for some time unless UN moves in. This is a job no one wants though. On 2/22/2024 at 11:14 AM, Justice said: The dream and goal is to have a Jewish state. The Palestinians are standing in the way. Treat people like animals and eventually they become animalistic. Before the conflict people were making $1.25 per day in Gaza. How long can anyone put up with that before they go insane? The Palestinians aren’t going anywhere. In order to get a Jewish state, there needs to eventually be a Palestinian state that isn’t intent on eliminating Israel. All the foreign aid has been wasted be Hamas. Poverty by itself does not produce violence. There are plenty of poor but peaceful people in the world.
Justice Posted February 26 Posted February 26 4 hours ago, Andy1 said: I think you’re right on this. Hamas effectively killed any possibility of a state in outperform lifetime. From what I’ve seen, Israel’s military operates with impunity. If Palestinians die, there is no justice. Unfortunately, I don’t see this changing either, unless the UN moves in to police. I can see Israel occupying Gaza for some time unless UN moves in. This is a job no one wants though. The Palestinians aren’t going anywhere. In order to get a Jewish state, there needs to eventually be a Palestinian state that isn’t intent on eliminating Israel. All the foreign aid has been wasted be Hamas. Poverty by itself does not produce violence. There are plenty of poor but peaceful people in the world. The PA has done everything they can do appease Israel and still their civilians get murdered and bullied everyday in the WB. The PA doesn’t want to eliminate Israel. “Poverty by itself does not produce violence”? When you have nothing to live for you will find something to die for. It plays a major role. 1
Doc Posted February 26 Posted February 26 4 minutes ago, LeviF said: Wait, does he get 72 virgins as well?
LeviF Posted February 26 Posted February 26 36 minutes ago, Doc said: Wait, does he get 72 virgins as well? Nah he just gets dragged by the leftists he died trying to please.
Doc Posted February 27 Posted February 27 51 minutes ago, LeviF said: Nah he just gets dragged by the leftists he died trying to please. Cultural appropriation?
aristocrat Posted February 27 Posted February 27 3 hours ago, LeviF said: Nah he just gets dragged by the leftists he died trying to please.
sherpa Posted February 27 Posted February 27 On 2/26/2024 at 7:45 AM, Andy1 said: The Palestinians aren’t going anywhere. In order to get a Jewish state, there needs to eventually be a Palestinian state that isn’t intent on eliminating Israel. Don't worry, this Biden appointee to a relatively high position in the State Department is all over this. Simply brutal testimony. Rivalled the guy he appointed to head the FAA. The guy never made it through the confirmation hearings to a vote. Our State Dept. 1
Justice Posted February 27 Posted February 27 One gotta wonder if Aaron Bushnell did this to free the hostages how the response would be. I can imagine the conservatives would hail him as a brave hero and the msm would actually tell people why he did it in their headlines and the leftists would say he’s mentally ill and brainwashed. It would be the exact opposite of what we’re seeing now. I for one as a Palestinian don’t want this from Aaron. I feel for him and his family. I appreciate him trying to stop a genocide, but this isn’t the way. 1
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