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5 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

The world really has gone mad! 🤩

Just keep it civil and I won't need to take action.  Unlike these other guys, I respect free speech and welcome others' opinions.  I let a lot of things go here.  

 

 

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1 minute ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

I am no ball of yarn, Irving. 

 

It's "Irwin" Irwin B. Weinstein.  Thank you.  I thought you'd have more respect for my position of power.  

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3 hours ago, yall said:

That's probably a naive view as many have noted.

 

Even though that 6 billion is effectively in escrow for payments to 3rd parties for humanitarian aid, Iran in all probability will just reallocate funds that would have been set aside for aid to terror related activities.

Wouldn't they only be able to do that with money that they would normally spend on humanitarian aid?

 

3 hours ago, SCBills said:

This is evil that we’ve never before seen in the technology age. 
 

It’s existed since the dawn of man, but never before has it been exploited by those perpetuating the evil.  
 

I have sympathy for the innocent Palestinians.. I have no f****ing clue why now is the time for people to protest/cheer in support of Palestine, days after we witnessed the furthest depths of evil that the human spirit is capable of. 
 

Actually… I do know why…. It’s hatred of Jews.  Not support of Palestine. 

I can understand why people are worried about the people of Palestine right now. Obviously any sane decent person wants all of these horrible things to stop. The people that aren't a part of this that are there are in a terrible situation right now. They're surrounded by people engaged in psychotic and savage behavior. With Israel, people feel for Israel it's an unimaginable tragedy but they also know Israel isn't crippled, they're not destroyed. They're hurting but they still have a powerful military. Israel has every right to defend itself and take action against this threat and importantly to get those people back. I can see people being worried about Palestine though because Israel is in pain and they're angry.

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4 minutes ago, SUNY_amherst said:

 

hey man, easy for you to say.. I have literally been banned 8 times and I haven't even been here a year. I need to tread carefully with board moderators. Irv seems cool though

I got your back!  In fact, I have everyone's back.  Never banned anybody or given out a penalty point despite some obnoxious behaviour.    Well, not necessarily true.  Have dropped the hammer with a few penalty points a little while ago.  They got the message.  

 

 

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57 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:


Hamas is a terrorist group. they are beheading children while laughing about it, babies!, raping and killing women, then parading their dead bodies around the streets, burning elderly women alive, and then posting the ***** on social media. This isn’t collateral damage from unfortunate warfare it’s mid-evil barbarism and genocide.

 

they busted in, invaded Israel and kidnapped and killed hundreds and hundreds of civilians. 
 

listen to their propaganda- it’s not free our selves or claim some land back, it’s kill every last Jew on the planet. They have no purpose other than to kill or be killed. 
 

these people are the most cruel violent and savage actors we have seen. 
 

They deserve what’s coming now. 

 

Right, I honestly don't disagree with anything you said.  Hamas will hopefully get what's coming to them, and I am almost certain they will. 

 

My point being, while heinous, Israel has been doing similar things to Palestine for decades.  Maybe not to such extremes, but they have killed thousands and thousands of Palestinians, so I can at least understand why people would join Hamas in that region.  Now, how they can then commit some of the atrocities I have no idea, specially to civilians, and children.  Wanting revenge I think is almost a basic human emotion.  But to commit that revenge in such an extreme way against people who individually have nothing to do with the atrocities, I have no idea how anyone ever gets to that level of extremism.

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45 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

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NO! 

 

 

So despite having a military with tanks and planes North Korea is going to launch a guerilla attack like Hamas across the most heavily defended border in the world? I mean it might be interesting to see them try and ride those bikes across the minefield.

40 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

 

They're ballsy as hell.

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47 minutes ago, SUNY_amherst said:

 

hey man, easy for you to say.. I have literally been banned 8 times and I haven't even been here a year. I need to tread carefully with board moderators. Irv seems cool though

I've never been banned.  Thanks @Irv.  you coulda.  I had 1 warning message and no points (not from you).  I'll try to calm it down a bit to avoid it.

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I wasn’t aware of this maneuvering by Israel until today
 

For years, Netanyahu propped up Hamas. Now it’s blown up in our faces

 

“Additionally, since 2014, Netanyahu-led governments have practically turned a blind eye to the incendiary balloons and rocket fire from Gaza.

 

Meanwhile, Israel has allowed suitcases holding millions in Qatari cash to enter Gaza through its crossings since 2018, in order to maintain its fragile ceasefire with the Hamas rulers of the Strip.

 

Most of the time, Israeli policy was to treat the Palestinian Authority as a burden and Hamas as an asset. Far-right MK Bezalel Smotrich, now the finance minister in the hardline government and leader of the Religious Zionism party, said so himself in 2015.

 

According to various reports, Netanyahu made a similar point at a Likud faction meeting in early 2018, when he was quoted as saying that those who oppose a Palestinian state should support the transfer of funds to Gaza, because maintaining the separation between the Palestinian Authority in the West Bank and Hamas in Gaza would prevent the establishment of a Palestinian state.”

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9 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

So despite having a military with tanks and planes North Korea is going to launch a guerilla attack like Hamas across the most heavily defended border in the world? I mean it might be interesting to see them try and ride those bikes across the minefield.

They're ballsy as hell.

They're fanatics.  I always wonder about religious zealots that believe some imaginary guy in the sky is telling them to kill people.  It's irrational in a few ways.  First off, why should I break moral, ethical, and legal standards of behavior under those circumstances?  I mean, show yourself if that's what you expect.  Second, if there is some all-powerful supreme being that wants to kill people it's perfectly within his power to do it himself so you can just leave me out of it.  Thirdly, if you wanted to eliminate some undesirable group why did you put them here in the first place? 

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20 minutes ago, ChiGoose said:

I wasn’t aware of this maneuvering by Israel until today
 

For years, Netanyahu propped up Hamas. Now it’s blown up in our faces

 

“Additionally, since 2014, Netanyahu-led governments have practically turned a blind eye to the incendiary balloons and rocket fire from Gaza.

 

Meanwhile, Israel has allowed suitcases holding millions in Qatari cash to enter Gaza through its crossings since 2018, in order to maintain its fragile ceasefire with the Hamas rulers of the Strip.

 

Most of the time, Israeli policy was to treat the Palestinian Authority as a burden and Hamas as an asset. Far-right MK Bezalel Smotrich, now the finance minister in the hardline government and leader of the Religious Zionism party, said so himself in 2015.

 

According to various reports, Netanyahu made a similar point at a Likud faction meeting in early 2018, when he was quoted as saying that those who oppose a Palestinian state should support the transfer of funds to Gaza, because maintaining the separation between the Palestinian Authority in the West Bank and Hamas in Gaza would prevent the establishment of a Palestinian state.”

That article paints a rather dark picture.

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