Israel and Iran

[Joe Ferguson forever]

4 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

 

🤔 
 

https://fortune.com/2023/10/09/israel-palestine-saudi-arabia-deal-united-states-biden-gaza-attacks/

almost is not inevitable in international relations.

Edited October 10, 2023 by Joe Ferguson forever

[Biden is Mentally Fit]

1 minute ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

I saw a f'in submarine.  and wrote about it at the time....

And you know a Palestinian that doesn’t hate Jews. Will stay tuned for further developments. Keep ‘em coming!

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

Just now, Joe Ferguson forever said:

almost is not inevitable in international relations.almost

you’re suggesting this recent massive escalation just flared up on its own? 

[Joe Ferguson forever]

3 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

you’re suggesting this recent massive escalation just flared up on its own? 

i'm suggesting many Arabs need no excuse to attack Israel.  opportunity is all that's required.

4 minutes ago, JDHillFan said:

And you know a Palestinian that doesn’t hate Jews.

yes.  we have Jewish docs too.  never saw animosity and they worked together.

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[Biden is Mentally Fit]

2 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

i'm suggesting many Arabs need no excuse to attack Israel.  opportunity is all that's required.

yes.  we have Jewish docs too.  never saw animosity and they worked together.

Wonderful heartwarming news. Makes me think all the kill the Jews stuff might be disinformation. Thanks for sharing this real life experience. 

[Joe Ferguson forever]

1 minute ago, JDHillFan said:

Wonderful heartwarming news. Makes me think all the kill the Jews stuff might be disinformation. Thanks for sharing this real life experience. 

kumbaya redneck

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[Biden is Mentally Fit]

Just now, Joe Ferguson forever said:

kumbaya redneck

Editing a two word post. Impressive!

[Joe Ferguson forever]

3 minutes ago, JDHillFan said:

Editing a two word post. Impressive!

 

 

did you know how to spell kumbaya?  i'll bet you did.  prolly use it a lot.

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[Over 29 years of fanhood]

4 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

i'm suggesting many Arabs need no excuse to attack Israel.  opportunity is all that's required.

 

This was a well coordinated Deliberately planned orchestrated attack. This was not some random escalation. It was a purposeful move. 
 

there was purpose whether clear to us or not. Maybe not for Hamas, but certainly from whom is funding and directing them, likely leadership in Iran. 

[Joe Ferguson forever]

5 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

This was a well coordinated Deliberately planned orchestrated attack. This was not some random escalation. It was a purposeful move. 
 

there was purpose whether clear to us or not. Maybe not for Hamas, but certainly from whom is funding and directing them, likely leadership in Iran. 

agreed. but the disruption of the potential saudi deal doesn't necessarily follow.  doesn't change anything if it did, in my mind.

 

we also know that hamas visited russia recently and that iran and russia are dealing each other weapons.  I mentioned the possibility of russian involvement early in the thread.

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[Over 29 years of fanhood]

49 minutes ago, sherpa said:

Just an observation, but it's simply incredible how anything that happens in the world devolves into a Putin/Trump/Biden personal fight between the same combatants in this forum.

 

It’s partially tongue in check simply because of the same pattern. 

[John from Riverside]

28 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

don’t be naive - We’re always involved… 

And of course you have proof of that
 

All I see is the United States sending aid should we not do that?

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

11 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

agreed. but the disruption of the potential saudi deal doesn't necessarily follow.  doesn't change anything if it did, in my mind.

 

we also know that hamas visited russia recently and that iran and russia are dealing each other weapons.  I mentioned the possibility of russian involvement early in the thread.

Timing with Saudi thaw can’t be coincident. What the Russian angle? 
 

I know Middle East stability is the enemy of any oil producer, us too. 

[Joe Ferguson forever]

1 minute ago, John from Riverside said:

And of course you have proof of that
 

All I see is the United States sending aid should we not do that?

yes, we should...and simultaneously leverage that aid for more direct control over the region and Israel specifically.

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

2 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:

And of course you have proof of that
 

All I see is the United States sending aid should we not do that?

“Aid” 😂.  When the homeless crackhead begs for money for a meal, you know they aren’t spending it on food right? 

[Joe Ferguson forever]

1 minute ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

Timing with Saudi thaw can’t be coincident. What the Russian angle? 
 

I know Middle East stability is the enemy of any oil producer, us too. 

asked and answered.  see a post last page or 2 back...

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

2 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

yes, we should...and simultaneously leverage that aid for more direct control over the region and Israel specifically.

Well I’d argue all these checks we write should lead to direct control in all cases… but that seems to be a serious material omission in foreign policy these days .. 

Edited October 10, 2023 by Over 29 years of fanhood

[Joe Ferguson forever]

3 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

“Aid” 😂.  When the homeless crackhead begs for money for a meal, you know they aren’t spending it on food right? 

sometimes i offer them a meal at mcdonald's.  don't think they've ever taken me up on it.  if someone offered me a free bag of cheeseburgers, i'd take it.

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[Over 29 years of fanhood]

1 minute ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

sometimes i offer them a meal at mcdonald's.  don't think they've ever taken me up on it.

The drugs or booze are probably better for their health 

[Joe Ferguson forever]

3 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

The drugs or booze are probably better for their health 

so I need to offer whole foods meals?  ya think that'd sell them?

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