Kyle Orton: Why doesn't he get a little ex-Bill love?

[Nelius]

32 minutes ago, buffblue said:

One of the greatest rants ever, even from Francesa. Mostly about the incompetent Idzik/Rex Jets, but the last few minutes are pure gold. Orton completed 10 passes for 9,000 yards!!! 

You know how long it takes a Jet receiver to get 157 yards? THFREE YEARS!!! 

[Saxum]

5 hours ago, ganesh said:

The guy took the money and ditched us

 

Sounds like Orton.

[GunnerBill]

"The slide".... he was never getting the first down guys. It was the smart play. 

 

I think he only played 12 games didn't he? EJ started the first 4. We were 7-5 with Orton. 

 

12 games isn't enough to be revered.

[BillsfaninChicago]

6 hours ago, rafter said:

next legend of the game. definitely will be sitting behind the overhang

 

While it is still in existence it should be called the Billy Joe Hobart Club.

[WhoTom]

11 hours ago, Buffalo Ballin said:

Didn't he left his wallet in the locker room never to come back for it?

 

Nah - that was @House.

 

 

[Captain Hindsight]

11 hours ago, NoSaint said:

wasn’t it without even a goodbye to teammates and coaches? I recall stories of him disappearing 

He told some guys he was going to get his wallet and never came back 

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

13 hours ago, KingBoots8 said:

That dude left the locker room without even a goodbye presser. He’s as revered as he deserves

 

Pure mercenary QB for a paycheck.  

[MJS]

Someone started a big thread about adding him to the wall of fame a couple of years ago. That was pretty comical.

 

Look, Orton was good for a few games, and then he sucked. My theory was that Marrone's extremely conservative and overbearing coaching got to him. He went from throwing the ball down field and taking risks to playing scared, which is something that Marrone QB's always had in common. I believe he really laid into guys if they turned it over or made a mistake.

 

Orton was an above average QB for his career. Nothing more, nothing less. But in Bufalo he was at the tail end of his career and clearly wasn't motivated to try super hard.

[The Jokeman]

The slide plays a part than his decision to retire again kinda rubbed several the wrong way. I mean he was somewhat successful and felt like we had a chance to develop something and he elected not to come back which lead to Marrone to not come back etc. Ultimately it lead to us getting McDermott and Josh Allen etc. so the wound is not as deep as it was but still there. 

[Bob in STL]

11 hours ago, FireChans said:

We still could’ve went for it.

 

I do find it somewhat amusing that Orton is hated for sliding and living to fight another down, and fast forward near 10 years later and we are all begging Allen to slide and not try run through linebackers. 

We needed the first down. There was no living for another play.  That was it, and he surrendered.  
 

Allen has more than proved his toughness.  We want Allen to slide when he actually can, when there is another play. 
 

I find it amusing that you don’t see the difference. 

[Marcus Aurelius]

Oh well ... who cares it's...

 

[DaBillsFanSince1973]

14 hours ago, TheBrownBear said:

He played like 14 games.  Also, 4th down slide against Denver with the playoffs on the line.  He gets as much love as he deserves.

that was the dagger that did it for me. wrote him off as just collecting a check and no guts.

[BuffaloBillyG]

6 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

"The slide".... he was never getting the first down guys. It was the smart play. 

 

I think he only played 12 games didn't he? EJ started the first 4. We were 7-5 with Orton. 

 

12 games isn't enough to be revered.

Getting the first down or not getting it really has no bearing. It was a business decision on his part. Had he tried and failed the effort would have been remembered and appreciated. 

 

On Diggs long TD just last week he didn't stop. Didn't just go down. Fought through 2 guys. Point is you never know what may happen on a play. 

[prissythecat]

14 hours ago, Buddo said:

He was crap. Marrone, also chucked EJ under a bus against the Texans, to get him in. 

yes. because EJ sucked .

[GunnerBill]

6 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

Getting the first down or not getting it really has no bearing. It was a business decision on his part. Had he tried and failed the effort would have been remembered and appreciated. 

 

On Diggs long TD just last week he didn't stop. Didn't just go down. Fought through 2 guys. Point is you never know what may happen on a play. 

 

I don't want my QB needlessly taking hits trying to get a first down he is never getting in the 2nd Qrtrt of a must win. 

[Gugny]

25 minutes ago, prissythecat said:

yes. because EJ sucked .

You should see what his mom did to Ted Nolan. 

[Prospector]

Orton was one of the best I have ever seen who would literally sack himself... It got impressive after awhile, he would just be like, "meh, I have been standing in the pocket too long, time to sit down."

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

On 10/6/2023 at 9:05 AM, WhoTom said:

 

Nah - that was @House.

 

 

HOUSE only did that hoping that players would tuck some 'dolla bills' into it. 😁

On 10/6/2023 at 3:34 AM, BillsfaninChicago said:

While it is still in existence it should be called the Billy Joe Hobart Club.

Hobert: "Usher, may I have a program?"

Usher: "Why?! You ain't going to look at it!"

Edited October 7, 2023 by Ridgewaycynic2013

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

7 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

12 games isn't enough to be revered.

But certainly enough to be reviled.

[FireChans]

1 hour ago, Bob in STL said:

We needed the first down. There was no living for another play.  That was it, and he surrendered.  
 

Allen has more than proved his toughness.  We want Allen to slide when he actually can, when there is another play. 
 

I find it amusing that you don’t see the difference. 

What do you mean, that was it? It was the second quarter. We scored a field goal.

1 hour ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

Getting the first down or not getting it really has no bearing. It was a business decision on his part. Had he tried and failed the effort would have been remembered and appreciated. 

 

On Diggs long TD just last week he didn't stop. Didn't just go down. Fought through 2 guys. Point is you never know what may happen on a play. 

You never know what may happen on a play also includes bad things.

 

Orton gets his head taken off and fumbled and he’d be crushed. You know it to be true