Red vs Blue Health, Life Expectancy and Government Policy: Ashtabula, Erie and Chautauqua, a Compari

[Tiberius]

People just don't live as long in Red States 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/interactive/2023/republican-politics-south-midwest-life-expectancy/?itid=hp-top-table-main_p001_f001 

 

Americans are more likely to die before age 65 than residents of similar nations, despite living in a country that spends substantially more per person on health care than its peers.

Many of those early deaths can be traced to decisions made years ago by local and state lawmakers over whether to implement cigarette taxes, invest in public health or tighten seat-belt regulations, among other policies, an examination by The Washington Post found. States’ politics — and their resulting policies — are shaving years off American lives.

Ashtabula’s problems stand out compared with two nearby counties — Erie, Pa., and Chautauqua, N.Y. All three communities, which ring picturesque Lake Erie and are a short drive from each other, have struggled economically in recent decades as industrial jobs withered — conditions that contribute toward rising midlife mortality, research shows. None is a success story when it comes to health. But Ashtabula residents are much more likely to die young, especially from smoking, diabetes-related complications or motor vehicle accidents, than people living in its sister counties in Pennsylvania and New York, states that have adopted more stringent public health measures.

A series of visuals including a map of the three Lake Erie adjacent counties, their death rates of which Ohio is the standout, and charts showing which parties controlled each state over the past four decades.

 

That pattern held true during the coronavirus pandemic, when Ashtabula residents died of covid at far higher rates than people in Chautauqua and Erie.

 

Today, people in the South and Midwest, regions largely controlled by Republican state legislators, have increasingly higher chances of dying prematurely compared with those in the more Democratic Northeast and West, according to The Post’s analysis of death rates.

 

Ohio sticks out — for all the wrong reasons. Roughly 1 in 5 Ohioans will die before they turn 65, according to Montez’s analysis using the state’s 2019 death rates. The state, whose legislature has been increasingly dominated by Republicans, has plummeted nationally when it comes to life expectancy rates, moving from middle of the pack to the bottom fifth of states during the last 50 years, The Post found. Ohioans have a similar life expectancy to residents of Slovakia and Ecuador, relatively poor countries.

Edited October 5, 2023 by Tiberius

[Andy1]

Interesting article. The Republican controlled government there wants to ensure that Ohioans have access to cheap cigarettes, can ride in vehicles without wearing seatbelts and if you are over 18 you can feel the wind blow through your hair on a motorcycle. This analysis doesn’t even consider factors like infant care or impacts of gun laws. It’s no wonder that 20% of the residents will die before 65. 
 

This isn’t brain surgery. Seatbelts, helmets and cigarettes are the basics of saving lives. It baffles me to think that people get in vehicles without strapping on the seatbelt. Republicans don’t care about public health except when it comes to controlling women and girls health care. 

[Tiberius]

4 minutes ago, Andy1 said:

Interesting article. The Republican controlled government there wants to ensure that Ohioans have access to cheap cigarettes, can ride in vehicles without wearing seatbelts and if you are over 18 you can feel the wind blow through your hair on a motorcycle. This analysis doesn’t even consider factors like infant care or impacts of gun laws. It’s no wonder that 20% of the residents will die before 65. 
 

This isn’t brain surgery. Seatbelts, helmets and cigarettes are the basics of saving lives. It baffles me to think that people get in vehicles without strapping on the seatbelt. Republicans don’t care about public health except when it comes to controlling women and girls health care. 

This from the end of the article: 

 

But the fact that he’s no longer surprised at how many young people are dying in town concerns him.

“I’ll never forget my favorite funeral of all time,” he said, reminiscing about the passing of a 105-year-old woman. “All four of her daughters were still living in their 80s, and they were all sharp as tacks. … It was a celebration of a beautiful life that their mother had.”

“There’s my perfect world: Everyone lives that long.”

[Tommy Callahan]

LMAO.

 

Wa-Po is just a DNC rag anymore.

 

 

but like clockwork is arguing people would be safer with less freedom and more state control

 

Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin

 

 

 

Edited October 5, 2023 by Tommy Callahan

[Andy1]

1 hour ago, Tommy Callahan said:

Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin

 Stupid quote with no relevance to the topic unless you are arguing that Ben was advocating for the liberty of buying cheap cigarettes and being able to motor down the road without seatbelts. 
 

So it appears you are supporting the position that people are safer if they are free of the tyranny of the state and are not required to wear helmets or seat belts and have easier access to smoking. I’ve also heard that warming up your car in the garage without opening the door is a good idea.

[Tommy Callahan]

17 minutes ago, Andy1 said:

 Stupid quote with no relevance to the topic unless you are arguing that Ben was advocating for the liberty of buying cheap cigarettes and being able to motor down the road without seatbelts. 
 

So it appears you are supporting the position that people are safer if they are free of the tyranny of the state and are not required to wear helmets or seat belts and have easier access to smoking. I’ve also heard that warming up your car in the garage without opening the door is a good idea.

whoosh.

 

that reply kinda proved it did.

 

 

[Joe Ferguson forever]

7 hours ago, Tiberius said:

People just don't live as long in Red States 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/interactive/2023/republican-politics-south-midwest-life-expectancy/?itid=hp-top-table-main_p001_f001 

 

Americans are more likely to die before age 65 than residents of similar nations, despite living in a country that spends substantially more per person on health care than its peers.

Many of those early deaths can be traced to decisions made years ago by local and state lawmakers over whether to implement cigarette taxes, invest in public health or tighten seat-belt regulations, among other policies, an examination by The Washington Post found. States’ politics — and their resulting policies — are shaving years off American lives.

Ashtabula’s problems stand out compared with two nearby counties — Erie, Pa., and Chautauqua, N.Y. All three communities, which ring picturesque Lake Erie and are a short drive from each other, have struggled economically in recent decades as industrial jobs withered — conditions that contribute toward rising midlife mortality, research shows. None is a success story when it comes to health. But Ashtabula residents are much more likely to die young, especially from smoking, diabetes-related complications or motor vehicle accidents, than people living in its sister counties in Pennsylvania and New York, states that have adopted more stringent public health measures.

A series of visuals including a map of the three Lake Erie adjacent counties, their death rates of which Ohio is the standout, and charts showing which parties controlled each state over the past four decades.

 

That pattern held true during the coronavirus pandemic, when Ashtabula residents died of covid at far higher rates than people in Chautauqua and Erie.

 

Today, people in the South and Midwest, regions largely controlled by Republican state legislators, have increasingly higher chances of dying prematurely compared with those in the more Democratic Northeast and West, according to The Post’s analysis of death rates.

 

Ohio sticks out — for all the wrong reasons. Roughly 1 in 5 Ohioans will die before they turn 65, according to Montez’s analysis using the state’s 2019 death rates. The state, whose legislature has been increasingly dominated by Republicans, has plummeted nationally when it comes to life expectancy rates, moving from middle of the pack to the bottom fifth of states during the last 50 years, The Post found. Ohioans have a similar life expectancy to residents of Slovakia and Ecuador, relatively poor countries.

Evolution in real time.

[Unforgiven]

whack job libtard racist daydreams of (white) death

[Tommy Callahan]

13 hours ago, Unforgiven said:

whack job libtard racist daydreams of (white) death

Just red meat for the rabid mob 

[All_Pro_Bills]

1 hour ago, Tommy Callahan said:

Just red meat for the rabid mob 

The unspoken message of the Post story is more and bigger government makes you live longer. 

[Tiberius]

6 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

The unspoken message of the Post story is more and bigger government makes you live longer. 

That's true. Does it make you angry that that is true 

 

Go look at a country with little government services

[Tommy Callahan]

9 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

The unspoken message of the Post story is more and bigger government makes you live longer. 

look at the comments. they support the all-encompassing state at every turn.

 

 

3 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

That's true. Does it make you angry that that is true 

 

Go look at a country with little government services

Welp. the states with less authoritarian LAWS and regs seem to be winning on levels.

 

 

[Tommy Callahan]

1 minute ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

You should check your fact because I doubt a blue state like NYS has "less authoritarian laws and reg" than say Idaho.  Blue states have taxed their most productive citizens to death and a result of changes in private sector work arrangements and companies fleeing high costs and regulatory burdens they are losing population.  What are they winning? 

Something was taken out of context or presented wrong.  

 

NYS would be a great example of an overbearing and non-representative state, and how its suffering and people are fleeing it.

 

 

 

 

[All_Pro_Bills]

 

 

1 minute ago, Tommy Callahan said:

Something was taken out of context or presented wrong.  

 

NYS would be a great example of an overbearing and non-representative state, and how its suffering and people are fleeing it.

 

 

 

 

Yes, sorry about that.  I'm multi-tasking! 

[Tiberius]

Ohio's population is declining also 

[Tommy Callahan]

32 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Ohio's population is declining also 

yes, Ohio is one of the only red states on the top of the net domestic migration list.

 

the rest are all dark blue

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territories_by_net_migration