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I hate starting topics, and I'm not sure if this was already discussed if so feel free to remove this if it has. I was watching Diggs during the game and if we are running the ball he never moves. Now he had a great game, but if I am a D coordinator I would let my guys know not to bite on the play fake if he's running because it's going to be a pass. I'd have the corner that's covering him to be yelling pass the second he starts running.

I'm not trying to stir up anything and this could very well be a non-issue. I was just pointing out what I saw.

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I'm not sure if this mean anything or not, but I hear that teams will do things to put out tape that show different tendencies. I haven't watched for this specifically so I can't say one way or another. Good catch.  

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I never said I would tell my guys not to move, just not to believe it's a run if Diggs is running. For all I know it's like the guys above said Maybe they are setting up the Jags for a big play this weekend by showing a "fake" tendency.

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13 minutes ago, MikeSpeed said:

I hate starting topics, and I'm not sure if this was already discussed if so feel free to remove this if it has. I was watching Diggs during the game and if we are running the ball he never moves. Now he had a great game, but if I am a D coordinator I would let my guys know not to bite on the play fake if he's running because it's going to be a pass. I'd have the corner that's covering him to be yelling pass the second he starts running.

I'm not trying to stir up anything and this could very well be a non-issue. I was just pointing out what I saw.

 

LBs are not going to be looking outside at Stefon Diggs at the snap.

And having a corner yell something at them is not going to work.

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The amount of time it takes you to realize that Diggs isn't moving and to yell out "Pass" or whatever, the play fake has already happened and the defenders have either bitten or not.

 

The only regrettable thing about this is that Diggs is not participating in run blocking, which usually does not matter much when you are way out wide.

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Just now, GoBills808 said:

wideouts since time immemorial have been doing this

 

it's not exploitable

 

Yes. You won't know until the ball is snapped, then it's too late. Most plays develop too quickly.

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1 minute ago, Simon said:

 

LBs are not going to be looking outside at Stefon Diggs at the snap.

And having a corner yell something at them is not going to work.

'hey guys this guy isnt moving! run play'

 

'wait no now hes moving! never mind! pass play!'

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1 minute ago, Fleezoid said:

 

Yes. You won't know until the ball is snapped, then it's too late. Most plays develop too quickly.

That's good to know. Carry on then...

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20 minutes ago, Goin Breakdown said:

I'm not sure if this mean anything or not, but I hear that teams will do things to put out tape that show different tendencies. I haven't watched for this specifically so I can't say one way or another. Good catch.  

 

Dorsey intentionally did things against Miami that went away from the tendencies they showed the first 3 games...the first TD pass to Davis off the fake swing to Cook was one of those.

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5 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

So this was a little funny lol.

He gets pushed by the DB when he wasn’t paying attention.

 

 

I like how the DB isn't remotely keyed into the running play coming towards him either.  Him and Diggs might as well have been on separate planets.

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3 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

 

Dorsey intentionally did things against Miami that went away from the tendencies they showed the first 3 games...the first TD pass to Davis off the fake swing to Cook was one of those.

The entire season is just one long ass game of chess

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1 minute ago, TheBrownBear said:

I like how the DB isn't remotely keyed into the running play coming towards him either.  Him and Diggs might as well have been on separate planets.

 

I bet they were jawing at each other all game and focused on that during run plays.  Pass plays, game on!

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17 minutes ago, MikeSpeed said:

I never said I would tell my guys not to move, just not to believe it's a run if Diggs is running. For all I know it's like the guys above said Maybe they are setting up the Jags for a big play this weekend by showing a "fake" tendency.

Yea maybe they have a delayed screen pass to Diggs once they bite on a fake run hsndoff.  

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