Special K Posted October 5, 2023 Posted October 5, 2023 13 hours ago, 3rdand12 said: might be confused here. But perhaps you missed the intent of the text ? I don’t think I am. I made a post saying that the improved play of Dawkins and the drafting of Torrence is what put this OL over the top, and made them a much more effective OL. Then some joker slaps a red X on my post, basically implies I’m an idiot, and tries to convince me that the signing of McGovern and the “supposed “ improvement of Brown is the reason the OL is more effective. He’s wrong, so I defended my opinion. Obviously, all four of these factors are a part of why the OL is more effective, but it’s pretty clear to me that the actual improved play of Dawkins and the drafting of Torrence was more important to the improvement of the OL than the signing of McGovern and the supposed improvement of Brown. What’s to be confused about? 1 Quote
Doc Posted October 5, 2023 Posted October 5, 2023 1 minute ago, Special K said: I don’t think I am. I made a post saying that the improved play of Dawkins and the drafting of Torrence is what put this OL over the top, and made them a much more effective OL. Then some joker slaps a red X on my post, basically implies I’m an idiot, and tries to convince me that the signing of McGovern and the “supposed “ improvement of Brown is the reason the OL is more effective. He’s wrong, so I defended my opinion. Obviously, all four of these factors are a part of why the OL is more effective, but it’s pretty clear to me that the actual improved play of Dawkins and the drafting of Torrence was more important to the improvement of the OL than the signing of McGovern and the supposed improvement of Brown. What’s to be confused about? I think that at least in comparison to last year, signing McGovern and having him replace and massively upgrade Saffold, who was terrible, is a huge improvement. And that has allowed Dawkins to perform better, having someone competent next to him unlike the previous few years. I'd say Brown being healthier is 4th on the list. 1 Quote
DrDawkinstein Posted October 5, 2023 Posted October 5, 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Special K said: I don’t think I am. I made a post saying that the improved play of Dawkins and the drafting of Torrence is what put this OL over the top, and made them a much more effective OL. Then some joker slaps a red X on my post, basically implies I’m an idiot, and tries to convince me that the signing of McGovern and the “supposed “ improvement of Brown is the reason the OL is more effective. He’s wrong, so I defended my opinion. Obviously, all four of these factors are a part of why the OL is more effective, but it’s pretty clear to me that the actual improved play of Dawkins and the drafting of Torrence was more important to the improvement of the OL than the signing of McGovern and the supposed improvement of Brown. What’s to be confused about? Hilarious because you guys are arguing the exact same thing. You: Our OL is better because our OT is playing better and we added talent to the IOL! Other Guy: Well I think our OL is better because our OT is playing better and we added talent to the IOL! Peak message boarding. It's most likely: The talent added to both sides of the IOL are helping our OTs play better too. Edited October 5, 2023 by DrDawkinstein 2 2 Quote
Royale with Cheese Posted October 5, 2023 Posted October 5, 2023 2 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: Hilarious because you guys are arguing the exact same thing. You: Our OL is better because our OT is player better and we added talent to the IOL! Other Guy: Well I think our OL is better because our OT is playing better and we added talent to the IOL! Peak message boarding. It's most likely: The talent added to both sides of the IOL are helping our OTs play better too. I was just reading through this and thought the same thing lol. 1 1 Quote
Don Otreply Posted October 5, 2023 Posted October 5, 2023 2 minutes ago, Special K said: I don’t think I am. I made a post saying that the improved play of Dawkins and the drafting of Torrence is what put this OL over the top, and made them a much more effective OL. Then some joker slaps a red X on my post, basically implies I’m an idiot, and tries to convince me that the signing of McGovern and the “supposed “ improvement of Brown is the reason the OL is more effective. He’s wrong, so I defended my opinion. Obviously, all four of these factors are a part of why the OL is more effective, but it’s pretty clear to me that the actual improved play of Dawkins and the drafting of Torrence was more important to the improvement of the OL than the signing of McGovern and the supposed improvement of Brown. What’s to be confused about? One might conclude that DD is playing better because he has a real NFL guard to his right side and doesn’t have to keep track of what he is or isn’t doing all game long, and of course Our new 2nd rounder is a major reason that Brown is doing better, both of those guards are why Morse is more consistent, it’s a “ one hand washes the other” sort of deal, jmo of course, Quote
Special K Posted October 5, 2023 Posted October 5, 2023 14 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: It's most likely: The talent added to both sides of the IOL are helping our OTs play better too. I can get behind this, and it’s most likely the truth. I also think that there is a lot of disagreeing for the sake of disagreeing going on around here lately...I didn’t start the disagreement in this case, but I wasn’t going to let someone crap on my opinion with a worse opinion than mine. Now that I got that off my chest, maybe I can do a better job of ignoring these knuckleheads in the future.👍 1 Quote
DrDawkinstein Posted October 5, 2023 Posted October 5, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Special K said: I can get behind this, and it’s most likely the truth. I also think that there is a lot of disagreeing for the sake of disagreeing going on around here lately...I didn’t start the disagreement in this case, but I wasn’t going to let someone crap on my opinion with a worse opinion than mine. Now that I got that off my chest, maybe I can do a better job of ignoring these knuckleheads in the future.👍 Dont let the emojis on the posts get to ya. They dont really mean anything. edit: WTF @Doc! HOW DARE YOU! IT'S ON! Edited October 5, 2023 by DrDawkinstein 1 1 Quote
Doc Posted October 5, 2023 Posted October 5, 2023 14 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: Dont let the emojis on the posts get to ya. They dont really mean anything. edit: WTF @Doc! HOW DARE YOU! IT'S ON! 1 Quote
gobills404 Posted October 5, 2023 Posted October 5, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Special K said: I can get behind this, and it’s most likely the truth. I also think that there is a lot of disagreeing for the sake of disagreeing going on around here lately...I didn’t start the disagreement in this case, but I wasn’t going to let someone crap on my opinion with a worse opinion than mine. Now that I got that off my chest, maybe I can do a better job of ignoring these knuckleheads in the future.👍 It’s not that serious Edit: A RED X???? How dare you crap on my opinion. You basically just called me an idiot. Edited October 5, 2023 by gobills404 1 2 Quote
Special K Posted October 5, 2023 Posted October 5, 2023 1 hour ago, DrDawkinstein said: Dont let the emojis on the posts get to ya. They dont really mean anything. edit: WTF @Doc! HOW DARE YOU! IT'S ON! By the way, love the phrase “peak message boarding”! Its a good descriptor of some of the things I see going on around here....might have to use that phrase in the future. Quote
Captain Hindsight Posted October 5, 2023 Posted October 5, 2023 On 10/4/2023 at 11:03 AM, JerseyBills said: AWESOME.. Any word on run block? Jax sitting at 21. Worse graded OL we'll face other than the Jests Edit - meant that we've played already Watched a few jags games. They should be able to get to Lawrence. He’s good and get it out quick, but he won’t be able to settle in Quote
Prospector Posted October 5, 2023 Posted October 5, 2023 3 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said: Hilarious because you guys are arguing the exact same thing. You: Our OL is better because our OT is playing better and we added talent to the IOL! Other Guy: Well I think our OL is better because our OT is playing better and we added talent to the IOL! Peak message boarding. It's most likely: The talent added to both sides of the IOL are helping our OTs play better too. LOL, I was thinking the exact same thing 1 Quote
Mark Vader Posted October 5, 2023 Posted October 5, 2023 On 10/4/2023 at 10:22 AM, FrenchConnection said: Beane was still an employee of the Carolina Panthers when Milano was picked. But I will give people Benford and Bernard. How about Tyler Bass? 1 Quote
SydneyBillsFan Posted October 5, 2023 Posted October 5, 2023 On 10/5/2023 at 2:02 AM, FrenchConnection said: I think that Torrance in the second was perhaps Beanes best pick besides Josh. Yeah. It's early days of course but I cannot believe that he fell to pick 54 or whatever it was. A real gold nugget. 1 Quote
Nelius Posted October 5, 2023 Posted October 5, 2023 Regarding some of the still lingering talk of the mighty Jets (lol) and how some will believe it when they see it against a better opponent. Feels like a good time for a reminder that many talking heads just a week ago were praising Miami’s d-line, who apparently suck now despite throwing money at Chubb, etc. This team has made Chubb, Crosby, Chase Young and Montez Sweat essentially disappear. That’s worth credit regardless of the overall defensive unit. Completely removing the opponent’s best pass rusher from the equation shouldn’t be dismissed, and the Bills are doing it weekly now. 1 1 Quote
Special K Posted October 5, 2023 Posted October 5, 2023 (edited) 5 hours ago, gobills404 said: It’s not that serious Edit: A RED X???? How dare you crap on my opinion. You basically just called me an idiot. NOW WE ARE EVEN!!!!! (Waiting for the red X to appear.......) Edited October 5, 2023 by Special K 1 1 Quote
billsfan_34 Posted October 5, 2023 Posted October 5, 2023 On 10/4/2023 at 11:04 AM, Special K said: Dawkins, who was a question mark coming into the season, has really upped his game to a new level, and O'Cyrus Torrence, who obviously should have been a first round pick, thankfully fell to us in the second round. These two things have made all the difference in increasing the O-line's performance, IMO. I have dialed into Torrence when re-watching the game. This beast smashes people off the ball and really does well in pass pro. 1 1 Quote
BADOLBILZ Posted October 5, 2023 Posted October 5, 2023 22 hours ago, Buffalo716 said: Sean coming here gave us insight to 2 draft boards .. he would have known who the Panthers liked throughout the year also entire draft process FIFY Quote
Mr. WEO Posted October 5, 2023 Posted October 5, 2023 these week 5 threads don't often age well... Quote
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