Bobby Hooks Posted October 4, 2023 Posted October 4, 2023 1 hour ago, Doc said: Yup. He was sitting right there and was the best available for awhile. It was reminiscent of passing over Creed Humphrey. And considering they aren't even using Williams at MLB... Okay, so if a post just has the word “draft” in it, positive thread or not, your thoughts go directly to the negative? That’s not great, bud. 1 Quote
Doc Posted October 4, 2023 Posted October 4, 2023 1 minute ago, Bobby Hooks said: Okay, so if a post just has the word “draft” in it, positive thread or not, your thoughts go directly to the negative? That’s not great, bud. Not negative per se. Just an opportunity missed, bud. Quote
Bobby Hooks Posted October 4, 2023 Posted October 4, 2023 4 minutes ago, Doc said: Not negative per se. Just an opportunity missed, bud. Okay, so when people are talking about things they’re jazzed about (and you should be jazzed about as well) you think about missed opportunities? Still not great, bud. Do you do that in real life too, or just on message boards? Quote
Doc Posted October 4, 2023 Posted October 4, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Bobby Hooks said: Okay, so when people are talking about things they’re jazzed about (and you should be jazzed about as well) you think about missed opportunities? Still not great, bud. Do you do that in real life too, or just on message boards? I am extremely jazzed about them drafting O'CT. It doesn't mean I can't want them to have done better. And it's a message board, bud. I can say what I want. Edited October 4, 2023 by Doc 1 Quote
Matt_In_NH Posted October 4, 2023 Posted October 4, 2023 A few points about this. 1. The Bills are committed to running with RB's more this year, that helps keep the DL at bay. 2. Josh is helping by getting it out faster, 2.5s last year, 2.3s this year. 3. Obviously the G position (both of them) have been upgraded. 1 Quote
Big Turk Posted October 4, 2023 Posted October 4, 2023 3 hours ago, JerseyBills said: AWESOME.. Any word on run block? Jax sitting at 21. Worse graded OL we'll face other than the Jests Edit - meant that we've played already They are getting starting LT Cam Robinson back this week from suspension which may help, although that means the rest of the OLine will be getting shuffled and could cause some issues since it will be a new combo with people in different positions than they have been over the first 4 games. Quote
Buffalo716 Posted October 4, 2023 Posted October 4, 2023 None of this ***** makes sense lol These grades are so highly subjective... PFF literally made three out of our five lowest graded players against the dolphins our interior line... Morse , McGovern and Torrence was the worst ... So our three lowest graded players were our interior line... But now PFF is giving us a 100? I just don't click on anything that has those 3 words 2 Quote
gobills404 Posted October 4, 2023 Posted October 4, 2023 55 minutes ago, Special K said: Wrong. If the Bills only replaced Saffold, and hoped for improvements from Brown, the O-line would still be just treading water. What really put this O-line over the top was the improved play of Dawkins and the addition of Torrence. “The modest improvements at two spots that were already fine has been more important than the massive improvements at the two spots that were huge liabilities.” Flawless logic 👍 1 Quote
Buffalo716 Posted October 4, 2023 Posted October 4, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, starrymessenger said: Milano in the fifth Beane didn't take Milano .. McDermott did Edited October 4, 2023 by Buffalo716 1 Quote
McBean Posted October 4, 2023 Posted October 4, 2023 When Torrence named got called on draft night, that was the biggest “heck yeah” I yelled on a pick since I dunno when. 1 1 1 1 Quote
Special K Posted October 4, 2023 Posted October 4, 2023 (edited) 16 minutes ago, gobills404 said: “The modest improvements at two spots that were already fine has been more important than the massive improvements at the two spots that were huge liabilities.” Flawless logic 👍 If you think the line would be this effective without Torrence, then your logic is seriously flawed. Did you hear Christian Wilkins name once during the Fins game?? When has that ever happened against the Bills?? Who do you think stonewalled him all game?? Edited October 4, 2023 by Special K 2 Quote
ColoradoBills Posted October 4, 2023 Posted October 4, 2023 19 minutes ago, McBean said: When Torrence named got called on draft night, that was the biggest “heck yeah” I yelled on a pick since I dunno when. I was so glad he was there in the 2nd when the Bills were on the clock. All this talk about "position versatility" meant nothing to me. The Bills needed an anchor at the RG position, and it looks like they got it. Let the depth have versatility. 1 4 Quote
billsfan89 Posted October 4, 2023 Posted October 4, 2023 18 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said: I was so glad he was there in the 2nd when the Bills were on the clock. All this talk about "position versatility" meant nothing to me. The Bills needed an anchor at the RG position, and it looks like they got it. Let the depth have versatility. I would have genuinely been fine had Torrence been the pick at pick 27. I also would have been find had they traded up in the second to get him. When he was there at pick 59 I thought it was a no brainer. The Rams, Falcons, Bucs, Jets and Giants all picked interior offensive linemen in the second round ahead of Torrence. I think many of those teams would easily take Torrence over the players they picked 1 Quote
Bobby Hooks Posted October 4, 2023 Posted October 4, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Doc said: I am extremely jazzed about them drafting O'CT. It doesn't mean I can't want them to have done better. And it's a message board, bud. I can say what I want. Yeah, you can say what you want, and I can tell you how I feel about it. You just remind me of one of those Debbie downers that can’t be happy with anything. It’s always, “yeah, but we coulda did this too…” or “yeah, but we should’ve done this too…” it’s no way to live imo, but hey, you do you, bud. And I’ll continue to comment on it, cool bud? Edited October 4, 2023 by Bobby Hooks 1 Quote
Royale with Cheese Posted October 4, 2023 Posted October 4, 2023 1 hour ago, Buffalo716 said: None of this ***** makes sense lol These grades are so highly subjective... PFF literally made three out of our five lowest graded players against the dolphins our interior line... Morse , McGovern and Torrence was the worst ... So our three lowest graded players were our interior line... But now PFF is giving us a 100? I just don't click on anything that has those 3 words This is why I don't trust PFF grades. Their analytics and hard statistical data is great but their grades are to be taken with a grain of salt. Multiple OL have stated PFF will not know every responsibility of the lineman. A play blows up and they guess who was at fault. Wood specifically mentioned once that he didn't get to his block because when he was pulling, the guard got pushed back so far that he had to reroute around him....making him late to his man. He was graded negatively on that play but the guard wasn't. Quote
Doc Posted October 4, 2023 Posted October 4, 2023 5 minutes ago, Bobby Hooks said: Yeah, you can say what you want, and I can tell you how I feel about it. You just remind me of one of those Debbie downers that can’t be happy with anything. It’s always, “yeah, but we coulda did this too…” or “yeah, but we should’ve done this too…” it’s no way to live imo, but hey, you do you, bud. And I’ll continue to comment on it, cool bud? Feel free to ignore me, bud. Quote
Bobby Hooks Posted October 4, 2023 Posted October 4, 2023 10 minutes ago, Doc said: Feel free to ignore me, bud. Nope. Quote
26TrapDraw Posted October 4, 2023 Posted October 4, 2023 1 hour ago, Doc said: I am extremely jazzed about them drafting O'CT. It doesn't mean I can't want them to have done better. And it's a message board, bud. I can say what I want. don't let SDS see that. I got banned from shoutbox when I thought the same thing. Quote
78thealltimegreat Posted October 4, 2023 Author Posted October 4, 2023 1 hour ago, Buffalo716 said: None of this ***** makes sense lol These grades are so highly subjective... PFF literally made three out of our five lowest graded players against the dolphins our interior line... Morse , McGovern and Torrence was the worst ... So our three lowest graded players were our interior line... But now PFF is giving us a 100? I just don't click on anything that has those 3 words Rewatch the 4th quarter of the fins game Tony Romo was literally comparing Cyrus to Zach Martin basically saying after the Cowboys drafted him holes appeared that weren’t there before. 1 Quote
Doc Posted October 4, 2023 Posted October 4, 2023 10 minutes ago, 26TrapDraw said: don't let SDS see that. I got banned from shoutbox when I thought the same thing. Well, obviously within reason. 1 Quote
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