Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted October 4, 2023 Posted October 4, 2023 Wow almost two full pages and didn't see one Brown needs to go response 1 Quote
DCofNC Posted October 4, 2023 Posted October 4, 2023 9 minutes ago, JayBaller10 said: It’s early, but Bernard is certainly playing like a 1st round off the ball linebacker. And those guys don’t usually go first round anymore, but he brings that pass rush ability too. As long as he’s kept clean and not washed out of the play, he’s really good. Hopefully, he can get on the Milano train and add some strength without losing speed and we might have something special there.. never in my wildest dreams did I think I’d say that. Quote
Real McClappy Posted October 4, 2023 Posted October 4, 2023 22 minutes ago, teef said: every time i see your avatar pic, it makes me happy. @Special K Does that to me too teef 2 1 Quote
BillsPride12 Posted October 4, 2023 Posted October 4, 2023 You win and lose in the trenches, it was a major reason I kept my expectations lowered going into this season. I was worried we didn't do enough to address the O-line but apparently Beane and Kromer knew what we had so I'll gladly eat crow on this. I'm just elated by the way both Offensive and Defensive lines are playing this season. Quote
Magox Posted October 4, 2023 Posted October 4, 2023 1 hour ago, GunnerBill said: They have played really well. Even week 1 against the Jets the problem was definitively NOT the offensive line. Dion is playing his best football in 2 or 3 years, the two guards are significant upgrades on the turnstile and career backup they replaced, Mitch Morse is who he is, and Spencer Brown is more like rookie Spencer Brown where he has some pass pro wobbles but is dominating in the run game than the complete mess he was in 2022. It's also been helpful that we have used the 2 TE formation more often, they've helped with chipping at the DE's before they run their route, it's really helped to mask some of Spencer's deficiencies. 1 Quote
jletha Posted October 4, 2023 Posted October 4, 2023 1 hour ago, JerseyBills said: AWESOME.. Any word on run block? Jax sitting at 21. Worse graded OL we'll face other than the Jests uhhh except the Pats Quote
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted October 4, 2023 Posted October 4, 2023 1 hour ago, Bleeding Bills Blue said: I just remember him as an absolute liability when i saw him play. Yeah, dawkins has a bit of a frumpy body shape. But he did come into this year looking more... functionally heavy than just heavy. Arms look bigger, looks quicker. he was curling chipotle burritos in the off season … double fisted Quote
Doc Posted October 4, 2023 Posted October 4, 2023 (edited) 31 minutes ago, Bobby Hooks said: So… this thread is pointing out how well the offensive line has been playing, and how our 2nd round pick looks like an absolute stud and you’re talking about how we missed on our third round pick? 🤦♂️ Remember… just a few weeks ago more people than not said our last third round pick was a giant fail. How has that worked out? Yup. He was sitting right there and was the best available for awhile. It was reminiscent of passing over Creed Humphrey. And considering they aren't even using Williams at MLB... Edited October 4, 2023 by Doc Quote
Spiderweb Posted October 4, 2023 Posted October 4, 2023 2 hours ago, Special K said: Dawkins, who was a question mark coming into the season, has really upped his game to a new level, and O'Cyrus Torrence, who obviously should have been a first round pick, thankfully fell to us in the second round. These two things have made all the difference in increasing the O-line's performance, IMO. Possible that Dawkins play last year was down because of trying to help cover for Safford? Roger was good at one time, but by the time he came to Buffalo, he was on fumes. 1 Quote
starrymessenger Posted October 4, 2023 Posted October 4, 2023 2 hours ago, FrenchConnection said: I think that Torrance in the second was perhaps Beanes best pick besides Josh. Milano in the fifth Quote
John from Riverside Posted October 4, 2023 Posted October 4, 2023 38 minutes ago, Real McNasty said: @Special K Does that to me too teef Special Ks makes me feel all funny 1 Quote
gobills404 Posted October 4, 2023 Posted October 4, 2023 2 hours ago, Special K said: Dawkins, who was a question mark coming into the season, has really upped his game to a new level, and O'Cyrus Torrence, who obviously should have been a first round pick, thankfully fell to us in the second round. These two things have made all the difference in increasing the O-line's performance, IMO. No I’m pretty sure it’s because the worst two linemen last year BY FAR either got replaced (Saffold) or have show huge improvements this season (Brown). 1 Quote
Low Positive Posted October 4, 2023 Posted October 4, 2023 4 minutes ago, starrymessenger said: Milano in the fifth Beane was still an employee of the Carolina Panthers when Milano was picked. But I will give people Benford and Bernard. 1 Quote
wppete Posted October 4, 2023 Posted October 4, 2023 O’Cyrus Torrence the game changer! He’s been great so far. 1 2 Quote
Captain_Quint Posted October 4, 2023 Posted October 4, 2023 37 minutes ago, jletha said: uhhh except the Pats Even after the head scratching reach for Cole Strange in the 1st last year. Quote
Albany,n.y. Posted October 4, 2023 Posted October 4, 2023 2 hours ago, Doc said: I'm sure that has everything to do with who is next to him. The guards on last year's roster were as bad as just about any guard group in Bills history (including 2018). The lone survivor is Bates, who is now our backup center. The top 3 are all newcomers, free agents McGovern & Edwards and draftee Torrence. The team proved you can't throw anybody in at guard & have any semblance of a decent O-line. 2 Quote
Warcodered Posted October 4, 2023 Posted October 4, 2023 12 minutes ago, Limeaid said: Very very interesting That Chiefs O-line gets away with murder. Quote
Special K Posted October 4, 2023 Posted October 4, 2023 25 minutes ago, gobills404 said: No I’m pretty sure it’s because the worst two linemen last year BY FAR either got replaced (Saffold) or have show huge improvements this season (Brown). Wrong. If the Bills only replaced Saffold, and hoped for improvements from Brown, the O-line would still be just treading water. What really put this O-line over the top was the improved play of Dawkins and the addition of Torrence. 2 Quote
Doc Posted October 4, 2023 Posted October 4, 2023 38 minutes ago, Limeaid said: Very very interesting Yeah, Taylor has been amazing! And must have been a Russian judge giving out the 69 to the Bills. 1 Quote
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