78thealltimegreat Posted October 4, 2023 Posted October 4, 2023 Well if this isn’t a nice change 9 1 26 9 Quote
dorquemada Posted October 4, 2023 Posted October 4, 2023 Our grandkids will ask us "Papa, where were you when you heard that PFF gave the Buffalo Bills a 100 grade after week 4" and I'll proudly say i have no idea 45 1 Quote
Your Brown Eye Posted October 4, 2023 Posted October 4, 2023 bUt We NeEd tO cUt BrOwN aNd DaWkInS!! 4 1 1 Quote
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted October 4, 2023 Posted October 4, 2023 1 minute ago, 78thealltimegreat said: Well if this isn’t a nice change Both new guards are playing well, we have a next man up inside in bates. Edwards as an extra blocker and depth piece. A backup T who has played in the league before quite a bit. And a couple young depth pieces in anderson and Van Demark who show a lot more potential than Bobby Hart and Van Roten. 3 1 Quote
Rubes Posted October 4, 2023 Posted October 4, 2023 3 minutes ago, dorquemada said: Our grandkids will ask us "Papa, where were you when you heard that PFF gave the Buffalo Bills a 100 grade after week 4" and I'll proudly say i have no idea Not many posts make me literally LOL, but this one did. 2 1 2 Quote
Low Positive Posted October 4, 2023 Posted October 4, 2023 I think that Torrance in the second was perhaps Beanes best pick besides Josh. 8 10 Quote
JerseyBills Posted October 4, 2023 Posted October 4, 2023 (edited) AWESOME.. Any word on run block? Jax sitting at 21. Worse graded OL we'll face other than the Jests Edit - meant that we've played already Edited October 4, 2023 by JerseyBills 1 Quote
Brand J Posted October 4, 2023 Posted October 4, 2023 1 minute ago, Bleeding Bills Blue said: Both new guards are playing well, we have a next man up inside in bates. Edwards as an extra blocker and depth piece. A backup T who has played in the league before quite a bit. And a couple young depth pieces in anderson and Van Demark who show a lot more potential than Bobby Hart and Van Roten. I was shocked to see Van Rotten play so well for the Raiders. We didn’t hear much of the DL that day, but Jimmy G also seems like he’s willing to throw an INT than take a sack. 1 Quote
Doc Posted October 4, 2023 Posted October 4, 2023 Interesting. Tied for 1st according to PFF, 2nd according to SIS (whatever that is) and tied for 8th according to ESPN. Quote
Special K Posted October 4, 2023 Posted October 4, 2023 Dawkins, who was a question mark coming into the season, has really upped his game to a new level, and O'Cyrus Torrence, who obviously should have been a first round pick, thankfully fell to us in the second round. These two things have made all the difference in increasing the O-line's performance, IMO. 1 1 1 Quote
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted October 4, 2023 Posted October 4, 2023 1 minute ago, JayBaller10 said: I was shocked to see Van Rotten play so well for the Raiders. We didn’t hear much of the DL that day, but Jimmy G also seems like he’s willing to throw an INT than take a sack. I just remember him as an absolute liability when i saw him play. 1 minute ago, Special K said: Dawkins, who was a question mark coming into the season, has really upped his game to a new level, and O'Cyrus Torrence, who obviously should have been a first round pick, thankfully fell to us in the second round. These two things have made all the difference in increasing the O-line's performance, IMO. Yeah, dawkins has a bit of a frumpy body shape. But he did come into this year looking more... functionally heavy than just heavy. Arms look bigger, looks quicker. Quote
Brand J Posted October 4, 2023 Posted October 4, 2023 2 minutes ago, JerseyBills said: AWESOME.. Any word on run block? Jax sitting at 21. Worse graded OL we'll face other than the Jests Bengals, Giants, Patriots are all worse than the Jets according to this. 1 Quote
JerseyBills Posted October 4, 2023 Posted October 4, 2023 Just now, JayBaller10 said: Bengals, Giants, Patriots are all worse than the Jets according to this. I know. Just opponents we've faced so far Quote
BlazinBill Posted October 4, 2023 Posted October 4, 2023 This is to me the biggest difference in what the offense is able to accomplish - actually both lines are setting the tone this year- the guard position upgrades just completely solidified the entire o-line. It's early October so I won't get to ahead of myself but so far I have enjoyed watching us push around and manipulate to attack the strongest defenders and just neutralize them. Quote
SCBills Posted October 4, 2023 Posted October 4, 2023 22 minutes ago, Special K said: Dawkins, who was a question mark coming into the season, has really upped his game to a new level, and O'Cyrus Torrence, who obviously should have been a first round pick, thankfully fell to us in the second round. These two things have made all the difference in increasing the O-line's performance, IMO. Yup - Sometimes teams just overthink it. Torrence was the consensus best IOL in the Draft, yet dropped because he lacks positional flexibility. 2 Quote
strive_for_five_guy Posted October 4, 2023 Posted October 4, 2023 You know, I’ve always been a fan of PFF. 14 1 Quote
Big Turk Posted October 4, 2023 Posted October 4, 2023 28 minutes ago, FrenchConnection said: I think that Torrance in the second was perhaps Beanes best pick besides Josh. I think he has multiple Pro-Bowl and a few All-Pro potential. Quote
Doc Posted October 4, 2023 Posted October 4, 2023 3 minutes ago, SCBills said: Yup - Sometimes teams just overthink it. Torrence was the consensus best IOL in the Draft, yet dropped because he lacks positional flexibility. It would have been a coup to take Dawand Jones in the 3rd. Missed out on that one. 1 1 Quote
GunnerBill Posted October 4, 2023 Posted October 4, 2023 They have played really well. Even week 1 against the Jets the problem was definitively NOT the offensive line. Dion is playing his best football in 2 or 3 years, the two guards are significant upgrades on the turnstile and career backup they replaced, Mitch Morse is who he is, and Spencer Brown is more like rookie Spencer Brown where he has some pass pro wobbles but is dominating in the run game than the complete mess he was in 2022. 6 5 1 Quote
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