On to the JAGS

[NewEra]

5 minutes ago, FrenchConnection said:

It's on NFL Network.

Thanks…..started to get worried.  I was watching an advertisement that basically said sign up for nfl+ if you want to watch the game

[nuiwek]

4 hours ago, BillsFan619 said:

And then there are those of us who are on the West Coast. 🤣

 

I get it though. For those of us on the West Coast, it’s easier for night games.

So... 6:30? Id be fine with that too

[BuffaloBillyG]

Bills tied for 1st in the NFL for sacks. And we have Von back soon. That's a scary thought for QBs.

 

Anyone miss Frazier?

[LabattBlue]

That 9-6 loss two years ago still pisses me off.  I hope we spank them 35-0. 

[DaBillsFanSince1973]

 

 

[Beck Water]

6 hours ago, TFBillsfan said:

Great win by our Bills over the Dolphins. Now the focus shifts to the Jags who have weapons on offense and a D that the have Bills struggled against in the past.

 

Hopefully outside of Tre, everyone is healthy. Even though Von is back practicing I don’t expect he will active on game day for a few more weeks. Why rush it if we don’t need him right now.

 

Hoping the Bills D makes Trevor uncomfortable with pressure and shuts down their running game. Offensively, keep doing what you’ve been doing, play smart, physical and protect the ball. 

 

Lets not give Jax any hope and get out of England with a W.

 

Now let's pump the brakes on that "D that the Bills have struggled against in the past".

 

Bills lost to the Jags 6-9 in 2021.  At that time, Urban Meyer was the HC and Joe Cullen was the DC.  Cullen came to the Jags from the Ravens, where he was their DL coach under first Dean Pees then Wink Martindale.  But before that his coaching "roots" go back to .....Lovie Smith and Leslie Frazier.

 

Currently, under Doug Pederson, we have Mike Caldwell as the DC.  Caldwell came from the Bucs, where he coached linebackers under Todd Bowles.  He came with Bowles from the Jets and before that the Cardinals.  But if you follow him back a bit further--- he coached for the Eagles under Andy Reid with Jim Johnson and Sean McDermott.

 

Anyway, the Jags now run a 3-4 base D while under Meyer/Cullen I believe it was a 4-3.  End Roy Robertson-Harris and LB Josh Allen are constants, and K'lavon Chaisson is still on the team.  Cisco and Jenkins are still the safeties, and there's some CBs who were starting who are now depth. 

 

Whether we'll have more or less trouble now, can't tell you - all I can tell you is 1) just because we had trouble 2 years ago doesn't mean trouble now, due to personnel changes, coaching changes scheme changes, etc 2) we better take them seriously, Or Else.  I think we wouldn't have had trouble in 2021 if we'd come into the game taking them more seriously, and if Daboll had a Plan B on tap other than to run empty sets and boatrace them with the passing game

[Warcodered]

20 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

Bills tied for 1st in the NFL for sacks. And we have Von back soon. That's a scary thought for QBs.

 

Anyone miss Frazier?

and we play the Giants in two weeks.

[hondo in seattle]

19 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

Bills tied for 1st in the NFL for sacks. And we have Von back soon. That's a scary thought for QBs.

 

Anyone miss Frazier?

 

This brings up a question other than the Frazier one...  Did we need to spend $120 million on Von when we can pressure the QB without him?

 

I love Von.  But I'd love a top-five OL, too.  $120MM could have bought a lot of beefy bodyguards for Josh.

 

 

[DaBillsFanSince1973]

Bills unfortunate circumstances set themselves up for success against the Jags in london

atozsports.com

 

 

There's been a conversation across social media about how the team was playing in Buffalo, now traveling to London, to prepare for a game against a team that's had extra time spent in the country in order to prepare. Buffalo has been given a slight disadvantage, but previous history may swing in the Bills' favor.

 

Just last season, the Bills were in an unfortunate circumstance that forced them to play three games in 12 days, an unprecedented accomplishment in the modern NFL. What's more, all 3 of these games were outside of Orchard Park.

 

On top of the 3 games in 12 days, the team was battling illnesses, and injuries, overcoming tragic incidents in the community, and so much more.

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DraftKings Sees a Bills edge regardless of little time to shake off the jet lag.

 

BUF Bills -5.5

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JAX Jaguars @ BUF Bills

Game played at neutral venue - London, U.K.

[BuffaloBillyG]

4 minutes ago, hondo in seattle said:

 

This brings up a question other than the Frazier one...  Did we need to spend $120 million on Von when we can pressure the QB without him?

 

I love Von.  But I'd love a top-five OL, too.  $120MM could have bought a lot of beefy bodyguards for Josh.

 

 

Josh's beefy bodyguards are fine these days so, now that we have both Im happy.

 

But here's my thought on Von. I believe it may be fair to wonder if guys like Groot and AJE display the talent level that they do now without having Von here and really take a hands on approach to educate them. The pass rush camp Von holds is an example and who knows if they get that invite without him here. 

 

Who knows if Floyd signs here without Von (likely) in his ear. And Miller himself wasn't a slouch when he was on the field.

 

Also, what happens, football god forbid if we lose Floyd or Groot for the season. Edge depth... especially boarder line elite edge depth is never a waste of money.

[Warcodered]

6 minutes ago, hondo in seattle said:

 

This brings up a question other than the Frazier one...  Did we need to spend $120 million on Von when we can pressure the QB without him?

 

I love Von.  But I'd love a top-five OL, too.  $120MM could have bought a lot of beefy bodyguards for Josh.

 

 

I want to just hate this take, but I can't, dang that's tough. I mean let's at least see this defense with Von in it, especially now that White is down.

[billsfan89]

3 minutes ago, DaBillsFanSince1973 said:

Bills unfortunate circumstances set themselves up for success against the Jags in london

atozsports.com

 

 

There's been a conversation across social media about how the team was playing in Buffalo, now traveling to London, to prepare for a game against a team that's had extra time spent in the country in order to prepare. Buffalo has been given a slight disadvantage, but previous history may swing in the Bills' favor.

 

Just last season, the Bills were in an unfortunate circumstance that forced them to play three games in 12 days, an unprecedented accomplishment in the modern NFL. What's more, all 3 of these games were outside of Orchard Park.

 

On top of the 3 games in 12 days, the team was battling illnesses, and injuries, overcoming tragic incidents in the community, and so much more.

-----

DraftKings Sees a Bills edge regardless of little time to shake off the jet lag.

 

BUF Bills -5.5

Spread

JAX Jaguars @ BUF Bills

Game played at neutral venue - London, U.K.

 

Normally if this game was in Jacksonville I would have my "normal" level of anxiety but the whole London thing (much like Thursday games) just always has me feeling like "funky" things can happen. 

[K-9]

8 minutes ago, hondo in seattle said:

 

This brings up a question other than the Frazier one...  Did we need to spend $120 million on Von when we can pressure the QB without him?

 

I love Von.  But I'd love a top-five OL, too.  $120MM could have bought a lot of beefy bodyguards for Josh.

 

 

This is the mother of 20/20 hindsight posts. When we signed Von in March of ‘22, did you have the belief that we could pressure the QB with the front four at the time? I know I didn’t.

[Bob in STL]

7 hours ago, SoonerBillsFan said:

It's a trap game.  They always play us tough and we are coming off a high.  This is an evolutionary step,we need to beat a team we should beat coming off a game like the fins.

Not a trap game.  They are a playoff team that beat us in the last meeting.  We owe them an azz kicking.  

 

The only issue is the travel and the related distractions.  We are veteran team now, one that has overcome adversity in the past, and we should be able to manage this situation.  

 

We need a calm and patient Josh and another good effort by the McDefense.  If we get these things then the score is: 

 

Bills - 31

Jax - 17 

Edited October 3, 2023 by Bob in STL

[BearNorth]

Battles to watch:

 

Jags have 3 solid corners; Dawkins and Jax's Josh Allen should be fun to watch; McGovern will have his hands full. Benford and Poyer will have to play well. 

 

Lawrence will be a totally different challenge than any of the QB's we have faced so far, although we practice against our Josh Allen every day, who is of similar size and arm talent.

[JerseyBills]

Jags have looked extremely mediocre.  Lawrence looks extremely mediocre,  I'm very surprised.  Been paying attention to them because I have Lawrence and Ridley in fantasy , I was very hogh on Jax coming into the season. Lucky to be 2-2 in a 12 man 200$ league 

 

Benching Lawrence for Goff, probably sticking with Ridley but there's really no excuse for a loss. We're a level above on both sides of the ball. Just hope the flight and a big W doesn't get us complacent 

Edited October 3, 2023 by JerseyBills

[hondo in seattle]

8 minutes ago, K-9 said:

This is the mother of 20/20 hindsight posts. When we signed Von in March of ‘22, did you have the belief that we could pressure the QB with the front four at the time? I know I didn’t.

 

At the time, I thought it was a great signing in the sense that it addressed a notable need.  

 

But I did wonder if it was the wisest way to spend $120 million.  

 

[Since1981]

6 hours ago, GottaRun said:

I think this may be tougher on the Jags, a lot of distractions in London for anyone.

Like the Raiders. For jags, being on a “work trip” for 2 wks can drag. It sounds all fancy but many people like to be home, family, girlfriend, bed, food

[hondo in seattle]

14 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

I want to just hate this take, but I can't, dang that's tough. I mean let's at least see this defense with Von in it, especially now that White is down.

 

I was a bit critical of the Von signing when it happened.  It seemed like a lot of money for a DE on the backside of his career.  I felt there were better ways to use our limited cap dollars.   

 

Then again, he's still a tremendous player & a team guy, and DE was certainly a position of need.   

 

At this point, I guess, it's money under the bridge and I think it'll be fun to see what he adds to this already talented, productive group.  Especially with Tre out, it's nice to have guys who can get after a QB.  

[Since1981]

We know the yr is long. With D, any of 11+ guys go down and Vonn helps. LB DB DL. Vonn will help the rush which helps all levels. He’s great and he will help us down the stretch—not a doubt. And, oh yeah, great attitude too

Edited October 3, 2023 by Since1981