Irv Posted April 15 Posted April 15 On 10/3/2023 at 7:52 AM, Tiberius said: Former President Trump didn't want to visit a cemetery near Paris for Americans who fought and died in World War I because it was filled with "suckers" and "losers," John Kelly, his longest-serving chief of staff, said in a statement to CNN on Monday. Why it matters: In the statement, Kelly supported this and several other instances of Trump disparaging service members that were reported by The Atlantic in 2020 and vehemently denied at the time by the Republican 2024 presidential front-runner. Of note: Fox News reporter Jennifer Griffin previously confirmed parts of The Atlantic's story, including his refusal to visit the Aisne-Marne Cemetery in France. https://www.axios.com/2023/10/02/trump-troops-fallen-soldiers-john-kelly Total lie. 1
Tiberius Posted April 15 Author Posted April 15 2 hours ago, Irv said: Total lie. Nope, that's your boy Trump. He hates our soldiers, loves Putin and hates our Constitution
Irv Posted April 15 Posted April 15 37 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Nope, that's your boy Trump. He hates our soldiers, loves Putin and hates our Constitution Keep lying. Demented Biden taught you well. What a mess.
Tiberius Posted April 15 Author Posted April 15 8 minutes ago, Irv said: Keep lying. Demented Biden taught you well. What a mess. So Gen Kelly is lying? You hate the military too!
Irv Posted April 15 Posted April 15 20 minutes ago, Tiberius said: So Gen Kelly is lying? You hate the military too! You are lying. What a mess.
Tiberius Posted April 15 Author Posted April 15 41 minutes ago, Irv said: You are lying. What a mess. Nope
Irv Posted April 15 Posted April 15 24 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Nope You've been completely discredited. Give up while your behind.
Tiberius Posted April 15 Author Posted April 15 9 minutes ago, Irv said: You've been completely discredited. Give up while your behind. No way, I'm catching up, look at me run! 1
B-Man Posted April 15 Posted April 15 11 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Only a fool continues to push a discredited lie. (which explains why Tibs will keep responding) .
Warcodered Posted April 15 Posted April 15 On 4/2/2024 at 10:52 AM, BillStime said: It doesn't really feel that hard to understand with Trump on this, he's a narcissist, when his opponent was John McCain a big thing with him was his military service and Trump dodged the draft so he had to take a swing at it. McCain was captured so the simple thought in Trumps mind was that's bad so he used it as an insult, the idea that it would be an insult to all the other veterans who served or that he should have targeted legitimate issues with McCain as a politician and not his service didn't occur to Trump. Because he's a narcissist so why would anyone besides himself matter. 1 2
Irv Posted April 15 Posted April 15 9 minutes ago, Warcodered said: It doesn't really feel that hard to understand with Trump on this, he's a narcissist, when his opponent was John McCain a big thing with him was his military service and Trump dodged the draft so he had to take a swing at it. McCain was captured so the simple thought in Trumps mind was that's bad so he used it as an insult, the idea that it would be an insult to all the other veterans who served or that he should have targeted legitimate issues with McCain as a politician and not his service didn't occur to Trump. Because he's a narcissist so why would anyone besides himself matter. Total garbage made up in your empty head. 1
Warcodered Posted April 15 Posted April 15 3 minutes ago, Irv said: Total garbage made up in your empty head. Yeah I'm just inventing it. 🙄 I mean seriously it's not hard to see, there is no rational reason to say that, he bridges into an area of stupidity/ nose blindness that it creates what 3 options, that he's either such a massive idiot that this somehow seemed like a good idea, that his mental illness created a blind spot that allowed him to blunder into it, or some combination of the two.
Tiberius Posted April 15 Author Posted April 15 27 minutes ago, B-Man said: Only a fool continues to push a discredited lie. (which explains why Tibs will keep responding) . YOU are literally pushing a discredited lie! Wow, you are a piece of work 1
Irv Posted April 15 Posted April 15 23 minutes ago, Warcodered said: Yeah I'm just inventing it. 🙄 I mean seriously it's not hard to see, there is no rational reason to say that, he bridges into an area of stupidity/ nose blindness that it creates what 3 options, that he's either such a massive idiot that this somehow seemed like a good idea, that his mental illness created a blind spot that allowed him to blunder into it, or some combination of the two. Can't trust anything you post. Total fabrication.
Doc Posted April 15 Posted April 15 48 minutes ago, Warcodered said: It doesn't really feel that hard to understand with Trump on this, he's a narcissist, when his opponent was John McCain a big thing with him was his military service and Trump dodged the draft so he had to take a swing at it. McCain was captured so the simple thought in Trumps mind was that's bad so he used it as an insult, the idea that it would be an insult to all the other veterans who served or that he should have targeted legitimate issues with McCain as a politician and not his service didn't occur to Trump. Because he's a narcissist so why would anyone besides himself matter. His issue with McCain was pushing the bogus Steele Dossier. And it didn't seem to bother other POWs, or at least, enough to prevent getting elected. 1
BillStime Posted April 15 Posted April 15 56 minutes ago, B-Man said: discredited What was discredited, Bonnie? Who discredited it?
sherpa Posted April 15 Posted April 15 5 minutes ago, Doc said: And it didn't seem to bother other POWs, or at least, enough to prevent getting elected. The suggestion that Trump's stupid comments about McCain insulted other POW's, or that they or other military folks ever cared is ridiculous. A hearty breed, they don't get offended, outraged or otherwise bothered over stupid crap. Besides, McCain was strongly disliked in the Navy. Just a fact. Nothing to do with his honorable POW time,. No dispute there, but most were honorable. 1
Warcodered Posted April 15 Posted April 15 14 minutes ago, Irv said: Can't trust anything you post. Total fabrication. The old I don't want it to be true so I'm just going to pretend like it's not defense, okay I guess. 8 minutes ago, Doc said: His issue with McCain was pushing the bogus Steele Dossier. And it didn't seem to bother other POWs, or at least, enough to prevent getting elected. Sure then do that, as to the veterans not having a problem with what he said about McCain the numerous times my dad's brought this specific incident up when talking about what's wrong with Trump over the years I'd say that is in fact not the case. 1
nedboy7 Posted April 15 Posted April 15 Good to see logical fact based discussions continue on here. Reminds of the idiots who bought Truth Social stock but think the drop in value is due to Wall Street manipulation.
Doc Posted April 15 Posted April 15 1 hour ago, Warcodered said: Sure then do that, as to the veterans not having a problem with what he said about McCain the numerous times my dad's brought this specific incident up when talking about what's wrong with Trump over the years I'd say that is in fact not the case. Your dad is/was a Republican? A POW?
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