Ethan in Cleveland Posted October 3, 2023 Posted October 3, 2023 I've been pretty down on Dion the last year or so. I thought he played an excellent game on Sunday. Perhaps his best game in the last 20. I have no idea how he will be graded out but it looked like he was holding his own one on one the entire game and giving far less ground than he had earlier this year. If he can play at this level all year maybe they keep him next year. His cap hit is only marginally more than this year. His dead cap hit is over $7M. That would save them $8M in cap space but leave them relying on a rookie to play LT. What did others see? 6 4 Quote
Drew21PA Posted October 3, 2023 Posted October 3, 2023 Thought both tackles did excellent but I also feel we have a SOLID set of guards now with McGovern and the rookie !!! 2 3 1 Quote
RobbRiddicksTDLeap Posted October 3, 2023 Posted October 3, 2023 He certainly looked quicker and more violent. Something happens between these two teams, and it brings the best out of our guys. Dawkins played with some real spice yesterday that was great to see. Hopefully he stays this way the rest of the season. 2 2 1 Quote
billsbackto81 Posted October 3, 2023 Posted October 3, 2023 I haven't heard a peep about McGovern and Torrence. And that's music to my ears!!! 11 1 1 1 Quote
mrags Posted October 3, 2023 Posted October 3, 2023 I will say that I was very tough on Dawkins and he’s impressed so far this year. But I won’t kiss his butt just yet. It wasn’t a starting caliber DE he was going up against yesterday. 1 2 Quote
EmotionallyUnstable Posted October 3, 2023 Posted October 3, 2023 Everybody pre season calling Dawkins fat, out of shape, lazy, etc. He’s a good tackle and a cost controlled price. 2 Quote
Warcodered Posted October 3, 2023 Posted October 3, 2023 On 10/3/2023 at 12:12 AM, billsbackto81 said: I haven't heard a peep about McGovern and Torrence. And that's music to my ears!!! Expand I think there might have been some early talk about McGovern but I think he may have just been recovering from that injury. Quote
JMM Posted October 3, 2023 Posted October 3, 2023 On 10/3/2023 at 12:12 AM, billsbackto81 said: I haven't heard a peep about McGovern and Torrence. And that's music to my ears!!! Expand THIS!!!! 1 Quote
newcam2012 Posted October 3, 2023 Posted October 3, 2023 The oline looks a lot better and improved. Brown is the weakest link. Brown has had help but he seemingly isn't as big as a liability. Quote
Ethan in Cleveland Posted October 3, 2023 Author Posted October 3, 2023 On 10/3/2023 at 12:12 AM, billsbackto81 said: I haven't heard a peep about McGovern and Torrence. And that's music to my ears!!! Expand Seriously I have not heard McGovern's name once in four games. Quote
WMDman Posted October 3, 2023 Posted October 3, 2023 I believe he’s the highest graded O lineman we have according to PFF. I’ve always been a fan of Dion ! 2 Quote
Ethan in Cleveland Posted October 3, 2023 Author Posted October 3, 2023 He is currently 15th highest paid LT in the league. Only a small increase expected for next year with two years left on his deal. Bills have all the leverage. If he plays well he is a relatively cheap very good LT. Quote
947 Posted October 3, 2023 Posted October 3, 2023 I loved seeing him pull, totally sealed it off for Josh's rushing TD. Quote
BillsPride12 Posted October 3, 2023 Posted October 3, 2023 I noticed the same thing. It seems like a lot of guys are really finding their stride as the season is picking up. Just need to keep it going now Quote
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted October 3, 2023 Posted October 3, 2023 On 10/3/2023 at 12:08 AM, Drew21PA said: Thought both tackles did excellent but I also feel we have a SOLID set of guards now with McGovern and the rookie !!! Expand No that can't be! Quote
mrags Posted October 3, 2023 Posted October 3, 2023 On 10/3/2023 at 12:20 AM, EmotionallyUnstable said: Everybody pre season calling Dawkins fat, out of shape, lazy, etc. He’s a good tackle and a cost controlled price. Expand Well. He is fat and out of shape. But he has played well so far this season. 2 1 1 Quote
gobills404 Posted October 3, 2023 Posted October 3, 2023 There was never a Dion Dawkins demise in the first place 2 1 Quote
Royale with Cheese Posted October 3, 2023 Posted October 3, 2023 On 10/3/2023 at 12:17 AM, mrags said: I will say that I was very tough on Dawkins and he’s impressed so far this year. But I won’t kiss his butt just yet. It wasn’t a starting caliber DE he was going up against yesterday. Expand This makes sense. He's been good all year but you're not giving him credit because you don't think Bradley Chubb isn't a starting DE? Quote
elroy16 Posted October 3, 2023 Posted October 3, 2023 (edited) On 10/3/2023 at 12:02 AM, Ethan in Cleveland said: I've been pretty down on Dion the last year or so. I thought he played an excellent game on Sunday. Perhaps his best game in the last 20. I have no idea how he will be graded out but it looked like he was holding his own one on one the entire game and giving far less ground than he had earlier this year. If he can play at this level all year maybe they keep him next year. His cap hit is only marginally more than this year. His dead cap hit is over $7M. That would save them $8M in cap space but leave them relying on a rookie to play LT. What did others see? Expand The much more likely scenario is they extend his contract in the offseason. They aren't going to cut him and rely on a rookie to block Josh's blind side. Now, if after the year he balloons and gets fat and quits on football, sure he could be cut. Or if after next year he asks for $16 million plus, they'll let him walk, but otherwise he'll be on the team next year. I see "Let's cut this vet for cap space" ideas on this forum. When was the last time Beane actually did that? Especially a drafted and developed player like Dawkins. Edited October 3, 2023 by elroy16 Quote
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