Defensive Line rotation question

[Toledo Bill]

The defensive line rotation has been part of our defense for years.

When  Von comes back it will make our strong defensive end play even stronger.

Jones and Oliver have been playing lights out in the middle.

I am not looking for a negative here but I don’t seem to notice Settle or Phillips making any significant contributions when they are in there. I wonder if anyone has been focusing on their play and might have any input on this.

We can’t expect everyone to be a star but the difference seems to stand out.

[Ya Digg?]

1 minute ago, Toledo Bill said:

The defensive line rotation has been part of our defense for years.

When  Von comes back it will make our strong defensive end play even stronger.

Jones and Oliver have been playing lights out in the middle.

I am not looking for a negative here but I don’t seem to notice Settle or Phillips making any significant contributions when they are in there. I wonder if anyone has been focusing on their play and might have any input on this.

We can’t expect everyone to be a star but the difference seems to stand out.

They’re not jumping off the screen but they also aren’t getting destroyed either. I would say they are holding their own more often than not, which is what you want the backups to be able to do

[Pete]

Settle made a big play in the 2nd half

[JerseyBills]

Usually notice Settle/Phillips on run plays as well as Lawson 

.But Jones Ed Floyd Groot and AJ are playing phenomenal and McD can get super creative when Vons back. This DL is SPOOKY. Dominant 

[Dibs]

At This point we have 4 DLmen on pace for 10+ sacks this season.

Of course that will change when we get Von back....it'll be 5 DLmen then.

[Pete]

I don’t recall Phillips.  But the Bills DLine dominated the line of scrimmage , again.

 

Daquan has highest interior pressure rate in the NFL.

DL are doing dirty work occupying multiple blockers, enabling an onslaught of Bills pass rushers a

[BuffaloBillyG]

15 minutes ago, Toledo Bill said:

The defensive line rotation has been part of our defense for years.

When  Von comes back it will make our strong defensive end play even stronger.

Jones and Oliver have been playing lights out in the middle.

I am not looking for a negative here but I don’t seem to notice Settle or Phillips making any significant contributions when they are in there. I wonder if anyone has been focusing on their play and might have any input on this.

We can’t expect everyone to be a star but the difference seems to stand out.

One of the reasons you may not be noticing them is that the vaunted DL rotation that the Bills have used in the past really isn't used in most games anymore. Over that last year/year and a half of games I've noticed a sharp increase overall in snaps for the starting IDL especially. 

 

The last 3 weeks Phillips and Settle have gotten most of their snaps late in the 4th quarter when starters are out. I've seen them earlier, but a series or two and not much more. I expect this to continue when Von comes back. 

 

As far as who plays how many snaps at DE, Floyd, Von, Groot and yes even AJE have all earned play time. That will be interesting to see who they take off the field and when.

[Pete]

Lawson is really playing great as well.  Bills are getting quality reps out of Lawson, and every DL they roll out.  Kingsley too

[Matt_In_NH]

Phillips is a nice piece when he is healthy...and he is, he has made some plays....I can do with or without Settle.    I expected more out of Poona Ford based on the press he got when the Bills signed him...he has been a disappointment to not even play above Settle.

[JerseyBills]

2 minutes ago, Pete said:

Lawson is really playing great as well.  Bills are getting quality reps out of Lawson, and every DL they roll out.  Kingsley too

Facts. I think Kingsley will be the odd man out when Von returns because how good Shaq is vs the run

[Pete]

3 minutes ago, JerseyBills said:

Facts. I think Kingsley will be the odd man out when Von returns because how good Shaq is vs the run

Beane will work some roster magic.  I don’t think they want to lose Kingley

[JerseyBills]

9 minutes ago, Pete said:

Beane will work some roster magic.  I don’t think they want to lose Kingley

Agreed. Ya maybe with Tre likely going to ir they have him or Lawson inactive depending on matchup and just activate Elam. 

[Matt_In_NH]

16 minutes ago, JerseyBills said:

Facts. I think Kingsley will be the odd man out when Von returns because how good Shaq is vs the run

I think they may just activate Von when they put Tre on IR for now....and wait for other potential injuries on the DL to make that move....its not like they will be down a CB on gameday, Elam will now get a jersey.

[JerseyBills]

Just now, Matt_In_NH said:

I think they may just activate Von when they put Tre on IR for now....and wait for other potential injuries on the DL to make that move....its not like they will be down a CB on gameday, Elam will now get a jersey.

Ya i just said that! Makes perfect sense 

[fasteddie]

If only the d-line would learn to line up onsides, the would be more dominating. Yesterday was baffling. 

[Warriorspikes51]

4 minutes ago, fasteddie said:

If only the d-line would learn to line up onsides, the would be more dominating. Yesterday was baffling. 

The game was over at that point and the DE's were hungry for sacks 

[fasteddie]

The first one was in the first quarter. And this was not the first game it's happened. Lawson is the biggest repeat offender. Unpressured mistakes are unacceptable. 

[MAJBobby]

I have to say I have been a detractor about the DL rotation because it puts assets on bench for long periods of time when we could have used an asset to shore up elsewhere. 
 

but I will say this year with McD calling it I think the DL rotation have been a MAJOR key into how effective the Defense has been. 
 

hard to argue against after putting up 4 sacks (against the “unsackable”) and 14 pressures 

Edited October 2, 2023 by MAJBobby

[Ralonzo]

1 hour ago, Pete said:

I don’t recall Phillips.  But the Bills DLine dominated the line of scrimmage , again.

 

Daquan has highest interior pressure rate in the NFL.

DL are doing dirty work occupying multiple blockers, enabling an onslaught of Bills pass rushers a

Phillips is probably the least effective of the lot. Would love to see Ankou get a look after his monster preseason.

[SoCal Deek]

Does anyone know if Puna Ford is playing at all?  I can’t say I’ve heard his name mentioned. 

Edited October 2, 2023 by SoCal Deek