Alphadawg7 Posted October 2, 2023 Author Share Posted October 2, 2023 3 hours ago, JayBaller10 said: Burrow is having an underwhelming season so far, but he’s a much better QB than what he’s showing. He doesn’t go from second in conversation to merely “good” after a string of bad performances. Would he be struggling this badly if he never injured the calf and had a full training camp/preseason? I doubt it. I hope the Bengals end up something like 8-9 and just miss the playoffs because Burrow is more than capable of completely turning it around. But you see, that’s the issue, he was never 2nd best. All that was a media myth because his team reached a Super Bowl on the back of a dominant showing by his defense shutting down Mahomes and Chiefs for 3 points the entire second half of the AFCCG. Allens playoff stats literally dwarf Burrows pedestrian playoff stats. There is no metric where Burrow was ever the better QB, let alone 2nd best. He got gifted the title for 2 reasons…more draft hype and a SB appearance. Allen has played 8 playoff games, Burrow 7. Yet Allen despite having worse weapons has 20 TDs to Burrows 10. Burrow has a worse turnover ratio, worse QB rating, produces over 80 yards less per game, and has half the TD to turnover ratio as Allen. The only thing Burrow is better at is comp % which equates to just one more completion per game, literally. Over the last 2 regular seasons, Allen has only 3 more INTs than Burrow and that’s with Burrow having way better weapons with one of the best cast of weapons in the NFL both seasons. Not to mention that Josh Allen played with a hurt throwing elbow for half of one of those seasons and plays in worse weather. Burrow hasn’t accomplished nearly as much as Allen in terms of individual performance. But because his teams defense shut down Mahomes a week after our defense let Allen down with 13 seconds, he got elevated to 2nd best. 3 1 1 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 Burrow doesn’t look like Joe Cool no more. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 4 hours ago, aristocrat said: Burrow hurt his left elbow this game too. Going to Arizona next week and they are a tough bad team. Then to Seattle and us. Could get ugly Bengals play the 49ers the week before the Bills. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K D Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 11 hours ago, strive_for_five_guy said: Burrow will be good once again, whenever he’s past this calf injury. I'm assuming he should be fine by November 5 for instance. I'm not talking any crap about the Bengals until we prove it on the field. But it's fun to watch them suffer in the meantime! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfan1972 Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 Well Diggs should be the one upset, he only had 7 targets yesterday vs. 9 for Chase.😉 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnNord Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 12 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said: Uh oh…trouble in paradise? Lol. I caught heat here for saying Burrow was overrated and that Bengals won’t win their division this past offseason. Let see if the media treats Chase the same way they treated Diggs this off-season who actually seems pissed from actual games being played. Let’s see if the media covers Burrows struggles over the whole season so far as harshly as they did Allen over just 1 game. He always seem to say something stupid at the end of each game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 7 hours ago, Dr.Sack said: Burrow doesn’t look like Joe Cool no more. Joe Fool baby just like I said! 8 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said: But you see, that’s the issue, he was never 2nd best. All that was a media myth because his team reached a Super Bowl on the back of a dominant showing by his defense shutting down Mahomes and Chiefs for 3 points the entire second half of the AFCCG. Allens playoff stats literally dwarf Burrows pedestrian playoff stats. There is no metric where Burrow was ever the better QB, let alone 2nd best. He got gifted the title for 2 reasons…more draft hype and a SB appearance. Allen has played 8 playoff games, Burrow 7. Yet Allen despite having worse weapons has 20 TDs to Burrows 10. Burrow has a worse turnover ratio, worse QB rating, produces over 80 yards less per game, and has half the TD to turnover ratio as Allen. The only thing Burrow is better at is comp % which equates to just one more completion per game, literally. Over the last 2 regular seasons, Allen has only 3 more INTs than Burrow and that’s with Burrow having way better weapons with one of the best cast of weapons in the NFL both seasons. Not to mention that Josh Allen played with a hurt throwing elbow for half of one of those seasons and plays in worse weather. Burrow hasn’t accomplished nearly as much as Allen in terms of individual performance. But because his teams defense shut down Mahomes a week after our defense let Allen down with 13 seconds, he got elevated to 2nd best. Purdy is 2nd best...Josh is 1st best Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfan1972 Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 8 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said: But you see, that’s the issue, he was never 2nd best. All that was a media myth because his team reached a Super Bowl on the back of a dominant showing by his defense shutting down Mahomes and Chiefs for 3 points the entire second half of the AFCCG. Allens playoff stats literally dwarf Burrows pedestrian playoff stats. There is no metric where Burrow was ever the better QB, let alone 2nd best. He got gifted the title for 2 reasons…more draft hype and a SB appearance. Allen has played 8 playoff games, Burrow 7. Yet Allen despite having worse weapons has 20 TDs to Burrows 10. Burrow has a worse turnover ratio, worse QB rating, produces over 80 yards less per game, and has half the TD to turnover ratio as Allen. The only thing Burrow is better at is comp % which equates to just one more completion per game, literally. Over the last 2 regular seasons, Allen has only 3 more INTs than Burrow and that’s with Burrow having way better weapons with one of the best cast of weapons in the NFL both seasons. Not to mention that Josh Allen played with a hurt throwing elbow for half of one of those seasons and plays in worse weather. Burrow hasn’t accomplished nearly as much as Allen in terms of individual performance. But because his teams defense shut down Mahomes a week after our defense let Allen down with 13 seconds, he got elevated to 2nd best. I remember an article in The Athletic and the debate who's #2 (after Mahomes) in 2022 prior to the season I think with Burrow, Herbert & Allen and being so frustrated that Burrow & Herbert were elevated to that status. Then the Jackson fans were indignant too. With Allen people want to find fault with him. Burrow is faultless in the medias' eyes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTier Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 12 hours ago, strive_for_five_guy said: Burrow will be good once again, whenever he’s past this calf injury. By the time Burrow gets over his calf injury, he may have more. He really got roughed up yesterday's game. I just saw some of the sacks and pressures, and they were just awful. There was one which was ruled an incomplete pass in which a defender came in on Burrow apparently unblocked and just spun him around like a rag doll as he was trying to throw the ball. The ball went one way toward the sideline and Burrow went the other, landing pretty hard. I was somewhat surprised there wasn't a flag but the play was clean, just so hard and fast and Burrow was helpless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strive_for_five_guy Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 12 minutes ago, SoTier said: By the time Burrow gets over his calf injury, he may have more. He really got roughed up yesterday's game. I just saw some of the sacks and pressures, and they were just awful. There was one which was ruled an incomplete pass in which a defender came in on Burrow apparently unblocked and just spun him around like a rag doll as he was trying to throw the ball. The ball went one way toward the sideline and Burrow went the other, landing pretty hard. I was somewhat surprised there wasn't a flag but the play was clean, just so hard and fast and Burrow was helpless. Really protecting their investment well, huh? When healthy, I don’t think he’s overrated at all. But yea, when will that even be at this point? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 Just now, strive_for_five_guy said: Really protecting their investment well, huh? When healthy, I don’t think he’s overrated at all. But yea, when will that even be at this point? Bengals are protecting him about as well as usual, that organization is awful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 Burrow has been God Awful this year...and I don't think its ALL injury related. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 9 hours ago, Dr.Sack said: Burrow doesn’t look like Joe Cool no more. Joe Cooled off 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
\GoBillsInDallas/ Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 Fun fact: The Titans scored 3 touchdowns in the second quarter against the Bengals. The Bengals have scored 3 touchdowns the entire season. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 13 hours ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: it is a disease that inflicts all #1 WRs. This 100%. Look no further than our own team. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 3 minutes ago, \GoBillsInDallas/ said: Fun fact: The Titans scored 3 touchdowns in the second quarter against the Bengals. The Bengals have scored 3 touchdowns the entire season. Where as we have only had one game with less than 3 TDs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 13 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said: Uh oh…trouble in paradise? Lol. I caught heat here for saying Burrow was overrated and that Bengals won’t win their division this past offseason. Let see if the media treats Chase the same way they treated Diggs this off-season who actually seems pissed from actual games being played. Let’s see if the media covers Burrows struggles over the whole season so far as harshly as they did Allen over just 1 game. Wait Where is the Sports Media and Stephen A Smith and their endless commentary of how Chase wants out. (ala Diggs) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 IMO, clearly Burrow is hurt, and has convinced the coaches that he can still play through it. There is no other explanation for how you go from last season to this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wjag Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 I really didn't react at all to his statement. Hardly newsworthy nor inflammatory, IMO. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 2 minutes ago, LabattBlue said: IMO, clearly Burrow is hurt, and has convinced the coaches that he can still play through it. There is no other explanation for how you go from last season to this year. It's on the coaches to protect the player in that situation. Second is it really worth what they're getting? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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