2023 MVP: Lamar will win it with 15 fewer TDs than Josh Allen (end of season talk pg 75+)

[Sammy Watkins' Rib]

2 hours ago, Drew21PA said:

Mahomes MVP

KC wins another championship 

doesn’t feel like a Mahomes MVP year to me. Not with where he is at now number wise and with what is happening in San Francisco.

 

Goff could be a good dark horse MVP.

[The Wiz]

40 minutes ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said:

doesn’t feel like a Mahomes MVP year to me. Not with where he is at now number wise and with what is happening in San Francisco.

 

Goff could be a good dark horse MVP.

Yea mahomes has been winning but they haven't been impressive (consistent and effective for sure) and could just as easily be 3-2 if not for the refs love for KC Swifties.

[transplantbillsfan]

I was at that game in the nosebleeds. Hard for me to give specific reactions other than 2 without rewatching the broadcast other than:

 

...and...

[transplantbillsfan]

BTW, Allen is top 5 or so in pretty much all major statistical categories for QBs and still leads the NFL in completion % and TDs.

 

[UKBillFan]

That was such a weird game. For the majority of the first Quarter Josh played well. The injury to Jackson seemed to throw the Bills offense completely. Before it, the offense was moving the ball well, minus errors from Diggs and Davis plus a missed trip. Then, after Jackson's injury, the offense - including Josh - seemed to lose all focus, with four bad plays to finish the third series, and not getting a grip until the third quarter.

[transplantbillsfan]

2 hours ago, UKBillFan said:

That was such a weird game. For the majority of the first Quarter Josh played well. The injury to Jackson seemed to throw the Bills offense completely. Before it, the offense was moving the ball well, minus errors from Diggs and Davis plus a missed trip. Then, after Jackson's injury, the offense - including Josh - seemed to lose all focus, with four bad plays to finish the third series, and not getting a grip until the third quarter.

 

You mean Harris?

[UKBillFan]

1 minute ago, transplantbillsfan said:

 

You mean Harris?

 

No, the injury to the Giants' DB Adoree' Jackson at the end of the first quarter. The Bills were moving, he went down and, after play re-started, the offense seemed to go off boil.

 

There were only two O plays after Harris' injury in the second quarter - a nice pass to Diggs for 19 yards, then the tipped INT.

[HappyDays]

 

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

On 10/12/2023 at 5:30 PM, Sammy Watkins' Rib said:

doesn’t feel like a Mahomes MVP year to me. Not with where he is at now number wise and with what is happening in San Francisco.

 

Goff could be a good dark horse MVP.

 

It's Tua until it isn't imo.  Leads league in yards and TDs.  

[jletha]

3 minutes ago, Bleeding Bills Blue said:

 

It's Tua until it isn't imo.  Leads league in yards and TDs.  

Josh leads the league in total TDS and total EPA

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

That game should’ve helped his mvp case but with it being a primarily statistical award with 0 context it will hurt him a lot 

[H2o]

2 minutes ago, Bleeding Bills Blue said:

 

It's Tua until it isn't imo.  Leads league in yards and TDs.  

I hope so. Let Tua have his regular season awards and drive that $$$ tag up. Miami is already in cap limbo as it is with those contracts they've doled out. This will just add to it. 

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

3 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said:

BTW, Allen is top 5 or so in pretty much all major statistical categories for QBs and still leads the NFL in completion % and TDs.

 

This was a weird game…like it wasn’t even that ‘ugly’ per se.  The giants were just winning up front handedly.  There were a few flukey plays keeping points off the board for both teams and a couple super long drives in the second half…felt like a 23-20 type game to me 

[Warcodered]

3 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said:

BTW, Allen is top 5 or so in pretty much all major statistical categories for QBs and still leads the NFL in completion % and TDs.

 

Man Josh actually went after both of them.

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

On 10/12/2023 at 5:30 PM, Sammy Watkins' Rib said:

doesn’t feel like a Mahomes MVP year to me. Not with where he is at now number wise and with what is happening in San Francisco.

 

Goff could be a good dark horse MVP.

The defenses in his division are so poopy though that I think he’s got a good chance.  Tua is lucky the giants offense was completely inept last week he pretty much threw the game away on a couple picks if their offense could do anything 

Edited October 16, 2023 by Generic_Bills_Fan

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

15 minutes ago, H2o said:

I hope so. Let Tua have his regular season awards and drive that $$$ tag up. Miami is already in cap limbo as it is with those contracts they've doled out. This will just add to it. 

 

He finishes the season tops in yards and i dunno how miami gets out of making him the highest paid player ever.  

[Beck Water]

3 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said:

BTW, Allen is top 5 or so in pretty much all major statistical categories for QBs and still leads the NFL in completion % and TDs.

 

 

Look at Torrance.  He's chugging in there to help his man Spencer Brown - then he looks to his L and see Josh Allen taking on a LB "oh ***** gotta protect the QB!"  This was after Josh went to the blue tent with a shoulder injury right?  He went to the blue tent with a shoulder injury and he's taking out a LB leading with his R shoulder?

 

With Chris Simms, I can not disagree - but I also wonder why we don't see more Quintin Morris.  He has improved his blocking skills, and Allen obviously trusts him --- wasn't he the one who got free in the EZ for a TD on a scramble drill at the end of the half vs. Miami?

 

Hyde be over there going "don't throw it...don't throw it...don't throw it....NICE THROW!"

[transplantbillsfan]

36 minutes ago, Bleeding Bills Blue said:

 

It's Tua until it isn't imo.  Leads league in yards and TDs.  

 

No he doesn't 

[Process]

45 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

That game should’ve helped his mvp case but with it being a primarily statistical award with 0 context it will hurt him a lot 

2 TDs and one pick doesn't hurt him a lot. Still leads the league in TDs on the season.

 

Dolphins schedule is a joke. If Tua stays healthy he is going to put up MVP numbers. Might come down to who wins the division. 

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

14 minutes ago, Process said:

2 TDs and one pick doesn't hurt him a lot. Still leads the league in TDs on the season.

 

Dolphins schedule is a joke. If Tua stays healthy he is going to put up MVP numbers. Might come down to who wins the division. 

He’s almost out of his joke portion though and mahomes has nearly a full division slate of joke games.  The dolphins have played like 4 of the bottom 5 teams already 😂   I really thought our pass blocking turned the corner and this was gonna be Josh’s year but that does not seem to be the case.  He’s still got a chance though 

 

The 1 pick didn’t hurt in itself but his total is a little high on the year and the low yardage total doesn’t help..  I wish they looked into the context a little more for mvp votes cuz the vast majority of Allen’s picks have been pretty good arm punts that strategically didn’t really hurt 

Edited October 16, 2023 by Generic_Bills_Fan