2023 MVP: Lamar will win it with 15 fewer TDs than Josh Allen (end of season talk pg 75+)

[FireChans]

  On 1/1/2024 at 12:58 AM, mrags said:

I think he’s saying if Kelly and his merry men of cocaine sniffers actually took their jobs seriously, we would have a Lombardi by now. 

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Oh that’s reasonable. I thought he was trying to say the 90s team partied and was successful, and I was gonna annihilate him.

[RichRiderBills]

I'm cool with no mvp for Josh. He had a great year but not his best.

[mrags]

  On 1/1/2024 at 12:59 AM, FireChans said:

Oh that’s reasonable. I thought he was trying to say the 90s team partied and was successful, and I was gonna annihilate him.

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The only thing that 90s team was annihilating was lines of coke off strippers asses. Well, that and Jim would go home and beat the wife after tough losses. Hey, we’ve got Non-Miller for that. Maybe we are more like them than we realize. 

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[CincyBillsFan]

  On 12/31/2023 at 9:34 PM, GunnerBill said:

 

I mean he had Shakir wide open for TD today. Literally wide open and a clean pocket. At some point he has to see that.

 

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He did not have a clean pocket on that play.  Maybe I'm wrong but he was pressured up the middle and had to bail out to his left making a throw to where Shakir was a risky proposition.

 

 

 

 

[GunnerBill]

  On 1/1/2024 at 1:06 AM, CincyBillsFan said:

He did not have a clean pocket on that play.  Maybe I'm wrong but he was pressured up the middle and had to bail out to his left making a throw to where Shakir was a risky proposition.

 

 

 

 

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Nah this is the play where he missed Kincaid. Clean pocket, other side of the field, Shakir wide open doing handstands in the endzone.

[transplantbillsfan]

  On 12/31/2023 at 7:59 PM, Bill51390 said:

Crazy though the stats Allen is going to have and not be MVP. You look at his stats and you’d think there’s no way he isn’t MVP. It’s just that Allen isnt consistent enough. When he’s on, he’s the best player in the NFL by far. 

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This is why there's one more week.

 

If Allen owns Miami the way he's owned them over the last few years, it's going to be close.

 

On a side note... are we all now in agreement that CMC, Tyreek and Purdy are out of it????

 

So you're either in the camp that Lamar has it wrapped up or it's Lamar and then Allen with a distant shot???

[Mr. WEO]

  On 1/1/2024 at 1:09 AM, GunnerBill said:

 

Nah this is the play where he missed Kincaid. Clean pocket, other side of the field, Shakir wide open doing handstands in the endzone.

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Perfect pick by Davis too.  Josh forced  it to Kincaid instead.  Never looked to the wide open right side of the EZ

[Southern_Bills]

  On 1/1/2024 at 1:12 AM, transplantbillsfan said:

 

This is why there's one more week.

 

If Allen owns Miami the way he's owned them over the last few years, it's going to be close.

 

On a side note... are we all now in agreement that CMC, Tyreek and Purdy are out of it????

 

So you're either in the camp that Lamar has it wrapped up or it's Lamar and then Allen with a distant shot???

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Definitely Lamars to lose. Also Lamar had a huge day against the Phins which hurts Josh IMO.

 

Josh would have to blow Lamars numbers out if the water from this week to have a shot imo. Common opponent so close those games will be compared.

 

I'd rather the Bills win a Lombardi than Josh win an MVP though.

[transplantbillsfan]

  On 1/1/2024 at 1:18 AM, Southern_Bills said:

 

Definitely Lamars to lose. Also Lamar had a huge day against the Phins which hurts Josh IMO.

 

Josh would have to blow Lamars numbers out if the water from this week to have a shot imo. Common opponent so close those games will be compared.

 

I'd rather the Bills win a Lombardi than Josh win an MVP though.

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No he wouldn't have to blow Lamar's numbers out of the water, but I'd say he'd need comparable numbers.

 

Anything less than a win with 300 total yards, 4 total TDs, and more than 1 turnover and he has no shot.

 

I have a hard time believing voters would look at the QB of the #2 seed who has accumulated 4800+ total yards and 46+ total TDs and not think long and hard about making him the league MVP.

 

And just to be clear people... just win baby!!! I don't care how it looks.

[Chicken Boo]

Some of you are delusional.  Josh has no shot at MVP.

[LABILLBACKER]

  On 1/1/2024 at 1:01 AM, RichRiderBills said:

I'm cool with no mvp for Josh. He had a great year but not his best.

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Yeah any slight chance Josh had for an mvp ended today. Just too damn inconsistent.  Not enough playmakers and shuffling of OC's has caused a very chaotic season.  Hopefully Joe can eliminate some of these terrible plays, bench a couple non performers (Murray/Sherfield) and demand his wrs get seperation.  The Miami game starts the playoffs 1 week early. 

[BigDingus]

  On 1/1/2024 at 4:37 AM, LABILLBACKER said:

Yeah any slight chance Josh had for an mvp ended today. Just too damn inconsistent.  Not enough playmakers and shuffling of OC's has caused a very chaotic season.  Hopefully Joe can eliminate some of these terrible plays, bench a couple non performers (Murray/Sherfield) and demand his wrs get seperation.  The Miami game starts the playoffs 1 week early. 

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The biggest "non performer" was Josh though... Can't bench him.

[ChrisWatson#21]

Allen would need a "Heisman moment" just to steal a couple of votes from Lamar and keep him from being unanimous.  That’s over.

[Jeffbigalls]

Allen is not even in the conversation, he's not even close to Lamar. Allen has been bad all year, dudes arm is weak and his accuracy is terrible. This is embarrassing to even mention him and MVP in the same sentence 

[Heavy Kevi]

I don't think even if Allen goes 450/5td he can win it.

 

And who would really want him to get it this year? It's been ugly. Offense has been out of sorts most of the year. He's not as prepared as he had been in the past. I don't even think it would be good for him - he needs to go into the offseason with a chip on his shoulder.

 

He still has a legitimate shot at SB MVP which is wayyyyyyyy better anyways... but an MVP for him this year would be pretty rediculous even though he has 42tds. I guess the only reason he's still in conversation is there is no runaway MVP. Lamar isn't even really that good but the W's are a bigtime factor in mvp conversation.

[Scott7975]

This race is over.  Next week is an afterthought.  Voters probably already locked their votes in.  While I don't think Lamar had an MVP worthy season, Allen had a bad game.  Just wasn't good enough to convince anyone.  Next week won't matter.

[finn]

  On 1/1/2024 at 11:23 AM, Jeffbigalls said:

Allen is not even in the conversation, he's not even close to Lamar. Allen has been bad all year, dudes arm is weak and his accuracy is terrible. This is embarrassing to even mention him and MVP in the same sentence 

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Right. And Oliver is garbage, the Bills got robbed in the Rasul Douglas trade, and Kincaid has been a bust. What are you, bored or something?

[Goin Breakdown]

Josh is our MVP. He will. It be the league MVP unless the Bills get him some WRs. Too many drops BUT Josh is off too. The chemistry with his WR looks lost. Os it the OC, is it the players? Both and now we're strapped by the cap, so I don't expect anything to change next year. 

[Aussie Joe]

  On 1/1/2024 at 4:27 AM, Chicken Boo said:

Some of you are delusional.  Josh has no shot at MVP.

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What if he scores another 5 rushing TDs against the Dolphins ?

 

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[Warcodered]

  On 1/1/2024 at 6:03 PM, Aussie Joe said:

What if he scores another 5 rushing TDs against the Dolphins ?

 

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For whatever it's worth I know he'll of had an extra 2 games to have done it but he'll tie OJ's rushing TD record in Buffalo with 1 more.