Ken Dorsey Love

[buffblue]

He was good, no question. No issues whatsoever with play calling today. Hope he keeps it up

[Since1981]

I have not heard or seen media credit to McDermott Vs McDaniels yet. Just good D. TOO BORING 

[BillsFan130]

1 hour ago, MJS said:

He's been great all year, honestly. A lot of fans who don't know what the heck they are talking about have been calling him out.

I think to this point he’s been:

 

-Ok against the jets

-Great against the raiders

-Game plan seemed fine against WSH but I did not like his situational play calling

-Fantastic today all around

Edited October 2, 2023 by BillsFan130

[Alphadawg7]

I’ve been critical of him this season, but this was easily his best game as an OC and he has Allen playing his best ball because of it.  Hats off to him, he deserves a game ball

[Richard Noggin]

22 minutes ago, Buffalo03 said:

He gets a little too carried away with 1st and 10 runs, though. Other than that, great play calling

 

Pretty sure we eventually got two nice tuddies on 1st down play-action, though, didn't we? Or at least one TD and another explosive play. I don't know. I was there. I got a lot of sun today (and I'm a ginger). 

 

I get the frustration with such patterned play calling. But if it pays off over the course of a game, then that's kinda brilliant innit

[BillsFan130]

1 minute ago, Richard Noggin said:

 

Pretty sure we eventually got two nice tuddies on 1st down play-action, though, didn't we? Or at least one TD and another explosive play. I don't know. I was there. I got a lot of sun today (and I'm a ginger). 

 

I get the frustration with such patterned play calling. But if it pays off over the course of a game, then that's kinda brilliant innit

Yep I believe the Gabe TD and Diggs 3rd TD were from first down play actions

[Richard Noggin]

1 minute ago, BillsFan130 said:

Yep I believe the Gabe TD and Diggs 3rd TD were from first down play actions

 

And Gabe last week, too. 

[RunTheBall]

1 hour ago, Livinginthepast said:

Ive been very critical of him for being vanilla combined with some boneheaded calls in the first game but his game calling took a huge leap today! I'm glad to see he has learned and adapted!

It’s not Dorsey who adapted it’s Josh. I’ve been a big Dorsey critic but if you watch the coach’s film from the first 3 games, the gameplan was sound and Josh was passing up the easy stuff. The difference is Josh is now taking the short stuff first, not looking deep to short. That’s a maturity thing and it’s great to see. In this game, he started off taking all the short stuff which opened up the intermediate/deep stuff. That’s what a running game and trusting your O-line does for a QB.

 

 

[Allen2Moulds]

29 minutes ago, BillsFan130 said:

I think to this point he’s been:

 

-Ok against the jets

-Great against the raiders

-Game plan seemed fine against WSH but I did not like his situational play calling

-Fantastic today all around

This is spot on

[BillsFan130]

9 minutes ago, RunTheBall said:

It’s not Dorsey who adapted it’s Josh. I’ve been a big Dorsey critic but if you watch the coach’s film from the first 3 games, the gameplan was sound and Josh was passing up the easy stuff. The difference is Josh is now taking the short stuff first, not looking deep to short. That’s a maturity thing and it’s great to see. In this game, he started off taking all the short stuff which opened up the intermediate/deep stuff. That’s what a running game and trusting your O-line does for a QB.

 

 

I think it’s fair to question some of his situational play calling though.

 

Like last week, how many 2nd and long runs?

 

The Shot guns on 4th and inches?

 

And in the Jets game they only ran play action 14 percent of the time, never had Josh under centre, and got away from the run game.

 

I definitely think  some criticism on Dorsey was deserved
 

But today he was amazing , no doubt

 

 

[Buffalo03]

17 minutes ago, Richard Noggin said:

 

Pretty sure we eventually got two nice tuddies on 1st down play-action, though, didn't we? Or at least one TD and another explosive play. I don't know. I was there. I got a lot of sun today (and I'm a ginger). 

 

I get the frustration with such patterned play calling. But if it pays off over the course of a game, then that's kinda brilliant innit

He got the D to bite on one of our 1st and 10 play action TDs but that was after like 15 straight 1st a 10 run plays lol

[Richard Noggin]

Agreed but 14 points through the air is a nice payoff for that incredibly frustrating tendency.

[Brianmoorman4jesus]

I absolutely love this offense right now. Dorsey is doing a great job. Dabol who?

[RunTheBall]

11 minutes ago, BillsFan130 said:

I think it’s fair to question some of his situational play calling though.

 

Like last week, how many 2nd and long runs?

 

The Shot guns on 4th and inches?

 

And in the Jets game they only ran play action 14 percent of the time, never had Josh under centre, and got away from the run game.

 

I definitely think  some criticism on Dorsey was deserved
 

But today he was amazing , no doubt

 

 

 

No question there have been some play calls that left me scratching my head wondering WTF?? But, overall his game plans have been sound, there have been open receivers in every game starting with the Jets. If Josh took the easy stuff in the first game we are 4-0. That first game might end up being a godsend because Josh has really matured quickly and has a much more business like mindset. I think that early set back really hit home and Josh is the type of guy who doesn’t just talk the talk he went back and actually fixed his mistakes. That’s so unusual even at the professional level, we really have a unicorn in him. 

[Charles Romes]

Love the way Dorsey is using Allen’s arm strength to create low risk opportunities. 

[BillsFan130]

10 minutes ago, Charles Romes said:

Love the way Dorsey is using Allen’s arm strength to create low risk opportunities. 

Agreed. It’s a great balance right now between aggressive and smart

[That's No Moon]

3 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

The last 3 weeks Allen’s has made very few turnover worthy plays. I don’t think he had one today

He made good decisions all day.  One I pointed out to my family was the ball he threw to Cook.  He also had Knox open on that play but it would have required Josh to throw back across his body which is always dangerous.  He didn't do that and instead he took the safer throw to Cook up the sideline where, if he missed, nothing bad could happen.

[HappyDays]

5 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

They said in the broadcast he’s trying to look short to deep instead of deep to short. It’s hard for Allen to learn that.

 

I don't think that's correct. Allen haa not been going rogue ignoring his read progressions. The offense was primarily a deep to short read offense last year. This year we are seeing that progression flip in favor of short reads, and then taking shots at opportune times when the defense has been baited into cheating towards the short routes.

 

Dorsey absolutely mastered this concept today. Every shot play was perfectly timed. Allen smartly checked it down when the defense didn't bite. Brilliant combination of an OC in his bag and a QB making the right decision 100% of the time.

 

Edited October 2, 2023 by HappyDays

[LeGOATski]

Seriously great game. First time it felt like Dorsey's offense had rhythm.

[HappyDays]

4 hours ago, davefan66 said:

Didn’t get frustrated when runs didn’t get much.  Not a ton of rushing yards, but kept at it.

 

This has been my biggest compliment of Dorsey and the biggest upgrade from Daboll to him. You can't just give up on the run entirely after a couple drives. That Jags debacle in 2021 we only ran like 8 or 9 times if I remember correctly, in a game that was always within one score. It was a losing game plan from Daboll. But Dorsey understands this concept.

 

You'll notice over the last three games in the 4th quarter our offense suddenly starts pouring it on. I believe this is directly tied to us committing to the run early in the game so that by the 4th quarter the opposing defense is gassed. That is a winning formula that I've been waiting years for us to commit to.