Bookie Man Posted October 1, 2023 Posted October 1, 2023 (edited) Team is rolling right now. Jags have the "home" field advantage of playing in London week before. Wish I was going to this game. Edited October 3, 2023 by Alpo Chino Quote
Bangarang Posted October 1, 2023 Posted October 1, 2023 Josh Allen gets revenge on Josh Allen 1 1 6 Quote
SageAgainstTheMachine Posted October 1, 2023 Posted October 1, 2023 I’m staying away from the line here. London game is just bound to be weird in one way or another. 3 Quote
Aussie Joe Posted October 1, 2023 Posted October 1, 2023 They got hosed the last time in London agains the Jags ( I was there !)… Would love to get some revenge eight years later 1 1 Quote
Capco Posted October 1, 2023 Posted October 1, 2023 I still have no idea how betting works, what these numbers mean, who gets to come up with them, or how they do it. So thus far, bangarang's comment is (ironically) the only one that makes sense to me lol. 5 Quote
Bookie Man Posted October 1, 2023 Author Posted October 1, 2023 On 10/1/2023 at 10:03 PM, Capco said: I still have no idea how betting works, what these numbers mean, who gets to come up with them, or how they do it. So thus far, bangarang's comment is (ironically) the only one that makes sense to me lol. Expand haha no problem. Vegas oddsmakers create the numbers. -4.5 means Bills are 4.5 point favorites. They have to win by 5. 47.5 is the Over/Under. Total points scored by both teams. 1 Quote
RiotAct Posted October 1, 2023 Posted October 1, 2023 we should hopefully have a decent homefield advantage, what with Bills STH’ers having first right of refusal to the tickets. 1 Quote
78thealltimegreat Posted October 1, 2023 Posted October 1, 2023 This line is fair as the Jags have been there a week already. But honestly after watching them struggle with the Falcons the only thing that could keep the Jags in the game is turnovers and penalties 1 Quote
Capco Posted October 1, 2023 Posted October 1, 2023 On 10/1/2023 at 10:09 PM, Alpo Chino said: -4.5 means Bills are 4.5 point favorites. They have to win by 5. 47.5 is the Over/Under. Total points scored by both teams. Expand So if I bet on the Jags to "win", and they lose by 4 points IRL, then I've won my bet because you subtract -4.5 points from the Bills score to determine the "betting score" (I'm making up terms so sorry if I'm massacring the lingo lol). But let's say I bet $100 on this outcome... how much do I win? How is that part calculated? With the over/under thing, does that only affect the bets on the total points scored by both teams? Or does it affect other types of bets too? Quote
NI Bills Fan Posted October 1, 2023 Posted October 1, 2023 This will be the first Bills game I've ever attended. Feeling quite fortunate that the team is on a roll and largely healthy (prayers up for Tre). Can't wait. See you all there, Go Bills! 1 2 Quote
Warcodered Posted October 1, 2023 Posted October 1, 2023 On 10/1/2023 at 9:56 PM, Bangarang said: Josh Allen gets revenge on Josh Allen Expand Hopefully but that is his greatest weakness. Quote
Brand J Posted October 1, 2023 Posted October 1, 2023 On 10/1/2023 at 10:18 PM, Capco said: So if I bet on the Jags to "win", and they lose by 4 points IRL, then I've won my bet because you subtract -4.5 points from the Bills score to determine the "betting score" (I'm making up terms so sorry if I'm massacring the lingo lol). But let's say I bet $100 on this outcome... how much do I win? How is that part calculated? With the over/under thing, does that only affect the bets on the total points scored by both teams? Or does it affect other types of bets too? Expand If you bet on the Jags straight up and they lost, you’d lose your bet. If you bet them to cover the point spread, you win. I believe the cover bet is a 1:1, bet $100 to win $200 total (which includes your original bet). If you bet $100 on the Jags to win straight up, it’d depend on what the payout was. If its +150 on a Jags win, you win $150 on that $100 bet. $250 total. Conversely, if the Bills are -180, you’d have to bet $180 to win $100, $280 total. Over/under is simply the total amount of points scored by both teams. I believe that payout is also 1:1, someone correct me if I’m wrong. 2 Quote
Bookie Man Posted October 1, 2023 Author Posted October 1, 2023 On 10/1/2023 at 10:18 PM, Capco said: So if I bet on the Jags to "win", and they lose by 4 points IRL, then I've won my bet because you subtract -4.5 points from the Bills score to determine the "betting score" (I'm making up terms so sorry if I'm massacring the lingo lol). But let's say I bet $100 on this outcome... how much do I win? How is that part calculated? With the over/under thing, does that only affect the bets on the total points scored by both teams? Or does it affect other types of bets too? Expand Correct. If you bet the jags with the points (4.5) and they lose by 4, then you win your bet. If you bet $100, you'd win about $82. The standard juice on a bet is -110. Easiest way to think about this is you would need to bet $110 to win $100 or $55 to win $50 etc. Over/Under is just total points scored in the game. If the final score was Bills 27 - Jags 23 , you would win if you bet the OVER (total points 50 being greater than 47.5) Same if the score was Bills 50 - Jags 0. 1 Quote
Capco Posted October 1, 2023 Posted October 1, 2023 On 10/1/2023 at 10:25 PM, JayBaller10 said: If you bet on the Jags straight up and they lost, you’d lose your bet. If you bet them to cover the point spread, you win. I believe the cover bet is a 1:1, bet $100 to win $200 total (which includes your original bet). If you bet $100 on the Jags to win straight up, it’d depend on what the payout was. If its +150 on a Jags win, you win $150 on that $100 bet. $250 total. Conversely, if the Bills are -180, you’d have to bet $180 to win $100, $280 total. Over/under is simply the total amount of points scored by both teams. I believe that payout is also 1:1, someone correct me if I’m wrong. Expand Thanks! Do you know how the "+150" and "-180" numbers in your example would be determined? Additionally, from the thread title's use of the word "early", I assume these numbers change over time. How and why do they change leading up to the game? Quote
Fallser Posted October 1, 2023 Posted October 1, 2023 ***** bruv, games aren’t even over yet, Vegas needs another day to digest. I’d bet we’re -7.5 by Tuesday. Quote
Capco Posted October 1, 2023 Posted October 1, 2023 On 10/1/2023 at 10:30 PM, Alpo Chino said: If you bet $100, you'd win about $82. The standard juice on a bet is -110. Easiest way to think about this is you would need to bet $110 to win $100 or $55 to win $50 etc. Expand Gotcha! The +/- thing makes sense now with both the $82 calculation and the "easiest way" numbers. Thank you. 1 Quote
Brand J Posted October 1, 2023 Posted October 1, 2023 On 10/1/2023 at 10:31 PM, Capco said: Thanks! Do you know how the "+150" and "-180" numbers in your example would be determined? Additionally, from the thread title's use of the word "early", I assume these numbers change over time. How and why do they change leading up to the game? Expand Not sure how Vegas determines those +/-payouts. Nick Wright (or wrong) posted a parlay bet a couple weeks ago that was something like +4500. The bet was that both the Commanders (vs DEN) and the Giants (vs AZ) would come back to win after trailing big. Both had to happen for the bet to hit and wouldn’t you know it, they did. Why was Nick Wright bragging? Because he put $500 on the parlay. That weird nose dude hit over $20,000 on that bet! 1 Quote
mannc Posted October 1, 2023 Posted October 1, 2023 On 10/1/2023 at 9:58 PM, SageAgainstTheMachine said: I’m staying away from the line here. London game is just bound to be weird in one way or another. Expand Agreed. Would have expected Bills to be at least -6.5 Quote
Wacka Posted October 1, 2023 Posted October 1, 2023 Last time we played there EJ Manuel blew the game. Quote
AuntieEm Posted October 1, 2023 Posted October 1, 2023 (edited) On 10/1/2023 at 10:31 PM, Capco said: Thanks! Do you know how the "+150" and "-180" numbers in your example would be determined? Additionally, from the thread title's use of the word "early", I assume these numbers change over time. How and why do they change leading up to the game? Expand Think the numbers are some formula of money bet on each team. The casino has to get their cut as middle man so the numbers distribute the remaining funds from all bets if even bets on both sides you'd get closer to a 1 to 1 payout. If 4 Dolphins fans bet 10 each to 1 Bills fan u can't pay off 4 winning bets from the 1 so they divide the 10 into to 4 parts to cover each of the Miami bets with a 2.50 win on their 10 bet. At least it works something like that cause the casino doesn't want to give away money they take their cut rest is in pool for winning g bets divided by the # of winners. Basically the numbers change to try get both sides equal in bets made. Edited October 1, 2023 by AuntieEm 1 Quote
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