Dolphins @ Bills Postgame thread

[Mango]

3 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

Just ignore it and it will hopefulyl go away

 

None of the Bills are here. This may come as a surprise to some of us, myself included, but nothing we do here actually affects anything with the team.

So two years ago my jersey of choice was Tre…torn ACL.

 

The next year Poyer…injured.

Last year I bought a Rick Jeannerett jersey…he died.

 

This year I started Tre and look what happened.

 

With such a bad opener I switched to my RJ jersey. I figured that he is already dead what else could go wrong? 3-0 baby!

 

I used to think I couldn’t buy jerseys of anybody until they got extended. That wearing a QB jersey was a curse. But apparently I can’t wear jerseys until that person is dead. I’m basically a walking sports voodoo doll. 

[DrDawkinstein]

Just now, Mango said:

So two years ago my jersey of choice was Tre…torn ACL.

 

The next year Poyer…injured.

Last year I bought a Rick Jeannerett jersey…he died.

 

This year I started Tre and look what happened.

 

With such a bad opener I switched to my RJ jersey. I figured that he is already dead what else could go wrong? 3-0 baby!

 

I used to think I couldn’t buy jerseys of anybody until they got extended. That wearing a QB jersey was a curse. But apparently I can’t wear jerseys until that person is dead. I’m basically a walking sports voodoo doll. 

 

That's why I stick with classics for jerseys. Steve Tasker, Kyle Williams, etc. Can't jinx the player if theyre already retired!

[Scott7975]

1 hour ago, Warcodered said:

 

 

McD has this defense playing smart, fast, physical, and disciplined Defense. I think Frazier was a good coach but McD seems to have this defense playing with an edge I have not seen.

 

I also think this was the first week the offense played like a finely tuned machine.  I know we have scored a lot of points in the other games but this felt like the first game they played well start to finish.  Maybe it's just because it was Miami but good job Dorsey.

 

Milano is a beast and we are all going to be sad when it comes time for him to retire.  I'm heartbroken over Tre.  He was just becoming himself again.  I hope he can fight through this and come back next year.

[Mango]

Just now, DrDawkinstein said:

 

That's why I stick with classics for jerseys. Steve Tasker, Kyle Williams, etc. Can't jinx the player if theyre already retired!

You can’t effect their play but you can effect their life.

Exhibit A:

 

 

[NewEra]

7 minutes ago, Mango said:

So two years ago my jersey of choice was Tre…torn ACL.

 

The next year Poyer…injured.

Last year I bought a Rick Jeannerett jersey…he died.

 

This year I started Tre and look what happened.

 

With such a bad opener I switched to my RJ jersey. I figured that he is already dead what else could go wrong? 3-0 baby!

 

I used to think I couldn’t buy jerseys of anybody until they got extended. That wearing a QB jersey was a curse. But apparently I can’t wear jerseys until that person is dead. I’m basically a walking sports voodoo doll. 

No Josh allen jersey for you until he retires!

[ColoradoBills]

11 minutes ago, billsfan89 said:

 

They are reaching the tipping point of having to draft and develop players in order to maintain a good roster. And their roster is seriously flawed right now. Their defense is not very good despite having some pieces (Howard, Wilkins, Phillips and a few other good players) and they have a bad offensive line. Hill and Waddle are amazing, they appear to have found a very good RB in the draft this year, Mostert is also a good fit to add speed to their system and Tua when healthy executes that system really well. But they will need to get better along the offensive line and get better defensively in order to avoid losing shootouts consistently. 

 

They haven't had a strong draft class in several years so it remains to be seen how they can develop long term. I doubt if they add Tua on a sizable 40-50 million dollar contract they will be able to sustain any success beyond being a flashy 9-10 win team that gets bounced early. 

 

Wilkins is one of the UFAs I talked about.  He will want his $20M per year.  Even guys like Van Ginkel will want the $s.

Miami's 2024 free agent list.  It's a big one.  They are $40M over the cap with these guys to sign/replace.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/miami-dolphins/

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

32 minutes ago, mjt328 said:

 

I never understood the hype about Vic Fangio this offseason.

 

It really reminded me of us years ago, bringing in Rex Ryan to an extremely talented defense.  He was supposed to take us to the next level.  But his system never fit with the players on the roster, and it never meshed on the field.

  

Some coordinators seem to ride the coattails of really talented players for awhile then the league eventually learns their lesson and they stop getting jobs lol

 

at least with someone like McDaniel their offensive play design has been objectively great so you know what he’s brought to the table as a coach.  But some of these hirings around the league are real head scratchers at times 

 

it’s anecdotal but that Denver defense has imploded with fangio gone so who knows who’s to blame.  It’s possible he just inherited a defense not well suited to what he likes to do too or maybe a little bit of that and he’s also a bit overrated 

 

Xavien Howard is washed and he doesn’t have Ramsey yet so I’d think they’d improve a little bit later in the season at the very least.  Kohou got abused playing outside

Edited October 2, 2023 by Generic_Bills_Fan

[DrDawkinstein]

1 minute ago, ColoradoBills said:

 

Wilkins is one of the UFAs I talked about.  He will want his $20M per year.  Even guys like Van Ginkel will want the $s.

Miami's 2024 free agent list.  It's a big one.  They are $40M over the cap with these guys to sign/replace.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/miami-dolphins/

 

 

 

[Mango]

4 minutes ago, NewEra said:

No Josh allen jersey for you until he retires!

I have one. But I don’t wear it ever. I only use it as my slump buster. And then it goes back. But I think after this last Tre injury it has to stay in the closet. 

[HereComesTheReignAgain]

15 minutes ago, Mango said:

So two years ago my jersey of choice was Tre…torn ACL.

 

The next year Poyer…injured.

Last year I bought a Rick Jeannerett jersey…he died.

 

This year I started Tre and look what happened.

 

With such a bad opener I switched to my RJ jersey. I figured that he is already dead what else could go wrong? 3-0 baby!

 

I used to think I couldn’t buy jerseys of anybody until they got extended. That wearing a QB jersey was a curse. But apparently I can’t wear jerseys until that person is dead. I’m basically a walking sports voodoo doll. 

You need to start wearing a Mahomes jersey! 

[mjt328]

3 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

Some coordinators seem to ride the coattails of really talented players for awhile then the league eventually learns their lesson and they stop getting jobs lol

 

at least with someone like McDaniel their offensive play design has been objectively great so you know what he’s brought to the table as a coach.  But some of these hirings around the league are real head scratchers at times 

 

it’s anecdotal but that Denver defense has imploded with fangio gone so who knows who’s to blame.  It’s possible he just inherited a defense not well suited to what he likes to do too or maybe a little bit of that and he’s also a bit overrated 

 

Xavien Howard is washed and he doesn’t have Ramsey yet so I’d think they’d improve a little bit later in the season at the very least.  Kohou got abused playing outside

 

I don't think the problem is Vic Fangio himself.

It's how his scheme fits the Dolphins roster (or should I say doesn't fit).

 

Very possible that we are witnessing a lose-lose situation.  Yes, the Broncos miss what Fangio brought to their defense.  But at the same time, his system is a poor fit for Miami's player skills.

 

[NewEra]

8 minutes ago, Mango said:

I have one. But I don’t wear it ever. I only use it as my slump buster. And then it goes back. But I think after this last Tre injury it has to stay in the closet. 

🙏🏻 yes please!

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

1 minute ago, mjt328 said:

 

I don't think the problem is Vic Fangio himself.

It's how his scheme fits the Dolphins roster (or should I say doesn't fit).

 

Very possible that we are witnessing a lose-lose situation.  Yes, the Broncos miss what Fangio brought to their defense.  But at the same time, his system is a poor fit for Miami's player skills.

 

I actually think their super aggressive defensive scheme of the last few years is far better than whatever we saw out there on Sunday. 

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

Just now, mjt328 said:

 

I don't think the problem is Vic Fangio himself.

It's how his scheme fits the Dolphins roster (or should I say doesn't fit).

 

Very possible that we are witnessing a lose-lose situation.  Yes, the Broncos miss what Fangio brought to their defense.  But at the same time, his system is a poor fit for Miami's player skills.

 

I could absolutely see that…he definitely came in and begged for a corner I’m sure which got him Ramsey. That dolphins defense isn’t really well suited for anybody haha I’m not sure what their front office has been doing on that side of the ball 

 

they’ve def gotten plenty of offensive returns on the tyreek trade but there were just so many holes on that defense.  Xavien Howard needed to return to form for them to have a shot at halfway decent but he’s been declining for awhile now 

5 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

I actually think their super aggressive defensive scheme of the last few years is far better than whatever we saw out there on Sunday. 

Yea they certainly couldn’t have done much worse lol their corners are atrocious though so he was probably worried about them holding up if he kept adding pass rushers.  Dorsey definitely ate his lunch motioning diggs around to get him one on one with Kohou 

[SoonerBillsFan]

41 minutes ago, Mango said:

So two years ago my jersey of choice was Tre…torn ACL.

 

The next year Poyer…injured.

Last year I bought a Rick Jeannerett jersey…he died.

 

This year I started Tre and look what happened.

 

With such a bad opener I switched to my RJ jersey. I figured that he is already dead what else could go wrong? 3-0 baby!

 

I used to think I couldn’t buy jerseys of anybody until they got extended. That wearing a QB jersey was a curse. But apparently I can’t wear jerseys until that person is dead. I’m basically a walking sports voodoo doll. 

Can you please buy and wear either a Mahomes or Kelsey Jersey? Thank you in advance

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

25 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

I could absolutely see that…he definitely came in and begged for a corner I’m sure which got him Ramsey. That dolphins defense isn’t really well suited for anybody haha I’m not sure what their front office has been doing on that side of the ball 

 

they’ve def gotten plenty of offensive returns on the tyreek trade but there were just so many holes on that defense.  Xavien Howard needed to return to form for them to have a shot at halfway decent but he’s been declining for awhile now 

Yea they certainly couldn’t have done much worse lol their corners are atrocious though so he was probably worried about them holding up if he kept adding pass rushers.  Dorsey definitely ate his lunch motioning diggs around to get him one on one with Kohou 

Not sure how much of a genius Fangio is if he needs like all-pros at every position on the field to make his defense work. 
 

we could have scored 70 points if he had to. They put up no real resistance. 

[mykidsdad]

They literally played the defense I said they should. Probably the way most people would have said to play it. D-line push and get hands up. Get there with 4. Bang the receivers off the line. Bracket Hill. Take some chances in zone coverage. Jump a few routes. Get Tua to second looks. Be loud in the stands. And the execution was next level. Bills offense A+ Bills defense A+. I love this team.

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

Just now, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

Not sure how much of a genius Fangio is if he needs like all-pros at every position on the field to make his defense work. 
 

we could have scored 70 points if he had to. They put up no real resistance. 

Oh he ain’t a genius by any means lol that was never in question.  Idk that I’d put the blame squarely on him is all I’m trying to say.  That defensive roster is bordering on inept  

[Dopey]

48 minutes ago, HereComesTheReignAgain said:

You need to start wearing a Mahomes jersey! 

beat me to it!

[Warcodered]

2 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said:

Bahahahahaha

 

 

They shouldn't have clipped off the next line where he tells them how much fun they're going to have. It's hilarious but that would have made it a little more dark.