SCBills Posted October 2, 2023 Posted October 2, 2023 (edited) On 10/2/2023 at 9:16 PM, ngbills said: Seems like a lot CB that gut paid go down with big injuries. White, Diggs, Ramsey, got to be a ton more but my brain is not working. Expand I don’t want to come across as insensitive, but I’m starting to view CB’s like I do RB’s. Just draft ones that fit your scheme every year and keep your depth well stocked. Chiefs have been dominating the league and aren’t exactly paying corners. The Bucs defense that dominated Mahomes in the Super Bowl did it with their DL and LB’s, not so much a high priced secondary. With McDermott and his ability to coach up corners, just give me a bunch of Dane Jackson/Christian Benford’s and pair them up with a ferocious, heavily invested in, Defensive Line. Edited October 2, 2023 by SCBills 1 Quote
Scott7975 Posted October 2, 2023 Posted October 2, 2023 On 10/2/2023 at 1:57 PM, Mango said: I am and was absolutely gutted for the guy. It was hard to watch on national TV. So sad, we watched a guy come to terms with the idea that he might have his entire career ripped away from him in front of millions of people. Tre is my favorite player since Bruce. I feel for the guy. Expand Same man. It was heartbreaking watching that. I hope he can recover and come back next year. The guy was practically himself again and then this. 1 Quote
T master Posted October 2, 2023 Posted October 2, 2023 Prayers up to Tre 🙏 This SUCKS so bad for him he was playing like his old self & then this had to happen . I haven't had a chance to see the play that it happened on & i heard while watching the game it was a none contact play but was just wondering was he passing off to go after another player ? Has anyone seen what happened at the particular time of the jury is what i'm asking i guess ??? Quote
Steptide Posted October 2, 2023 Posted October 2, 2023 I'm ignorant when it comes to these injuries. What's the recovery time for an Achilles? Quote
That's No Moon Posted October 2, 2023 Posted October 2, 2023 On 10/2/2023 at 9:43 PM, Steptide said: I'm ignorant when it comes to these injuries. What's the recovery time for an Achilles? Expand Likely a year. If he's able to come back at all. Quote
John from Riverside Posted October 2, 2023 Posted October 2, 2023 On 10/2/2023 at 9:43 PM, Steptide said: I'm ignorant when it comes to these injuries. What's the recovery time for an Achilles? Expand A year at least Quote
MJS Posted October 2, 2023 Posted October 2, 2023 On 10/2/2023 at 9:27 PM, SCBills said: I don’t want to come across as insensitive, but I’m starting to view CB’s like I do RB’s. Just draft ones that fit your scheme every year and keep your depth well stocked. Chiefs have been dominating the league and aren’t exactly paying corners. The Bucs defense that dominated Mahomes in the Super Bowl did it with their DL and LB’s, not so much a high priced secondary. With McDermott and his ability to coach up corners, just give me a bunch of Dane Jackson/Christian Benford’s and pair them up with a ferocious, heavily invested in, Defensive Line. Expand Well, there have been a lot of great teams in the past who have prioritized cornerback. There isn't just one way to do it. McDermott is great at getting the secondary to maximize their potential, though, so in the past he has skimped there and invested in other areas, until he paid Tre. I think he felt that Tre earned it and he wanted to send the message that when you earn it the Bills will do right by you, within reason. But I don't think that having an elite corner is critical to McDermott’s scheme. Quote
John from Riverside Posted October 2, 2023 Posted October 2, 2023 I know it’s early for this, but we’re going to have to start discussing that huge contract. That trey white is carrying. Quote
MasterStrategist Posted October 2, 2023 Posted October 2, 2023 On 10/2/2023 at 9:36 PM, T master said: Prayers up to Tre 🙏 This SUCKS so bad for him he was playing like his old self & then this had to happen . I haven't had a chance to see the play that it happened on & i heard while watching the game it was a none contact play but was just wondering was he passing off to go after another player ? Has anyone seen what happened at the particular time of the jury is what i'm asking i guess ??? Expand He wasn't even running full speed, appeared he just planted in his backpedal then it happened. Live, it looked like he lost a shoe or foot got stuck in the ground. Just unfortunate, didn't appear to be an "explosive" movement...which is what causes most achilles tears. Could be nothing, but Tre went Week 1 and 2 not needing a vet rest day. Past 2 weeks, he's been given Friday off. Maybe he was dealing with tightness/calf, thats just pure speculation. I've heard alot of ppl say they tore their achilles while fighting off a calf pull/tightness and not having full flexibility in that area. Quote
SCBills Posted October 2, 2023 Posted October 2, 2023 On 10/2/2023 at 9:46 PM, MJS said: Well, there have been a lot of great teams in the past who have prioritized cornerback. There isn't just one way to do it. McDermott is great at getting the secondary to maximize their potential, though, so in the past he has skimped there and invested in other areas, until he paid Tre. I think he felt that Tre earned it and he wanted to send the message that when you earn it the Bills will do right by you, within reason. But I don't think that having an elite corner is critical to McDermott’s scheme. Expand It just feels, to me, like the era of elite cornerback game-changing play has faded. Who even are the game-changing corners anymore? Diggs? Gets burned but makes plays. Done for the year. Ravens have had good corners. Always hurt. Chiefs don’t care. They let them walk. Bengals best corner last year, Owuzie. Done for the year. Working his way back this year. Ramsey, currently injured. Who knows what he’ll be when he comes back. Surtain is nice. Not nice enough to make a difference on that defense.. clearly. Sauce Gardner seems like the one guy from a now-gone era, that can (somewhat) affect a game… and we know he straddles the line when it comes to physical play. Quote
T master Posted October 2, 2023 Posted October 2, 2023 On 10/2/2023 at 9:48 PM, MasterStrategist said: He wasn't even running full speed, appeared he just planted in his backpedal then it happened. Live, it looked like he lost a shoe or foot got stuck in the ground. Just unfortunate, didn't appear to be an "explosive" movement...which is what causes most achilles tears. Could be nothing, but Tre went Week 1 and 2 not needing a vet rest day. Past 2 weeks, he's been given Friday off. Maybe he was dealing with tightness/calf, thats just pure speculation. I've heard alot of ppl say they tore their achilles while fighting off a calf pull/tightness and not having full flexibility in that area. Expand Well maybe between Tre & Roger's injury the NFL will change the rule as far as turf vs. grass fields not sure if that would make a difference for Tre but now we will never know . But it surely SUCKS he was playing so good i hope he can keep his spirits up !! Quote
MJS Posted October 2, 2023 Posted October 2, 2023 On 10/2/2023 at 9:51 PM, SCBills said: It just feels, to me, like the era of elite cornerback game-changing play has faded. Who even are the game-changing corners anymore? Diggs? Gets burned but makes plays. Done for the year. Ravens have had good corners. Always hurt. Chiefs don’t care. They let them walk. Bengals best corner last year, Owuzie. Done for the year. Working his way back this year. Ramsey, currently injured. Who knows what he’ll be when he comes back. Surtain is nice. Not nice enough to make a difference on that defense.. clearly. Sauce Gardner seems like the one guy from a now-gone era, that can (somewhat) affect a game… and we know he straddles the line when it comes to physical play. Expand It has been a tough injury year for corners, but I don't think that negates their worth. There are defensive schemes out there that blitz and rely on man coverage. Corner is more of a premium in those defenses. For ours, I think it is less of a premium because of how much zone we play. Quote
Buffalo03 Posted October 2, 2023 Posted October 2, 2023 On 10/2/2023 at 9:45 PM, That's No Moon said: Likely a year. If he's able to come back at all. Expand Players come back from Achilles teats all the time. Why couldn't he come back? Quote
That's No Moon Posted October 2, 2023 Posted October 2, 2023 On 10/2/2023 at 9:57 PM, Buffalo03 said: Players come back from Achilles teats all the time. Why couldn't he come back? Expand Name me some defensive backs that have. Quote
Behindenemylines Posted October 2, 2023 Posted October 2, 2023 On 10/2/2023 at 9:45 PM, John from Riverside said: A year at least Expand Unless you’re Aaron Rogers then you’re good for the playoffs…such a tool. Feel for Tre was so happy to see him round back to form. Quote
FireChans Posted October 2, 2023 Posted October 2, 2023 On 10/2/2023 at 9:51 PM, SCBills said: It just feels, to me, like the era of elite cornerback game-changing play has faded. Who even are the game-changing corners anymore? Diggs? Gets burned but makes plays. Done for the year. Ravens have had good corners. Always hurt. Chiefs don’t care. They let them walk. Bengals best corner last year, Owuzie. Done for the year. Working his way back this year. Ramsey, currently injured. Who knows what he’ll be when he comes back. Surtain is nice. Not nice enough to make a difference on that defense.. clearly. Sauce Gardner seems like the one guy from a now-gone era, that can (somewhat) affect a game… and we know he straddles the line when it comes to physical play. Expand Ramsey won a Superbowl two years ago. Gilmore won a Super Bowl as DPOY and made the game sealing play in the AFCCG. Quote
BuffaninSarasota Posted October 2, 2023 Posted October 2, 2023 On 10/2/2023 at 9:07 PM, Buffalo Ballin said: We wish the best for Tre. This was super bad. 2 ACL tears on each leg. I think his career is over regardless of what surgical procedure he gets. Expand ?? Quote
SCBills Posted October 2, 2023 Posted October 2, 2023 On 10/2/2023 at 10:05 PM, FireChans said: Ramsey won a Superbowl two years ago. Gilmore won a Super Bowl as DPOY and made the game sealing play in the AFCCG. Expand Ramsey was not the main reason for that. Von was a menace. It was the pass rush with Miller, Donald and Floyd. Quote
Buffalo03 Posted October 2, 2023 Posted October 2, 2023 (edited) On 10/2/2023 at 9:59 PM, That's No Moon said: Name me some defensive backs that have. Expand I don't know which or how many DBs have had a torn Achilles so I couldn't tell you. I just know many players that have torn it have come back from it and been fine. People said the same thing about his ACL tear. I think people that say things like this don't want him to come back. One guy was quick to point out right after the injury happened that he was done as a Bill. Why don't we see what actually happens first? I guarantee he busts his a** to make it back Edited October 2, 2023 by Buffalo03 1 3 Quote
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