Heavy Kevi Posted October 19, 2023 Posted October 19, 2023 I feel like there's almost no chance, but if I was Beane I'd be offering a 1st and a 3rd/4th to try and get this done. This iteration of our Bills is in it's late stages. There's about to be alot of roster turnover in the next couple years. ALL IN. Push them chips forward and try to get a Lombardi this year. The other superpowers are bolstering their rosters at this position right now too (hardman, Julio). It's an arms race. 1 1 1 Quote
Bruffalo Posted October 19, 2023 Posted October 19, 2023 I would love this move more than anything if we traded for Adams midseason. It's such a "we're winning now, screw you all" move that I'd love to see the Bills have enough confidence to make. Diggs, Adams, and Davis would instantly make us the most threatening big play team in the league (or at least equal to Miami). 1 Quote
The Jokeman Posted October 19, 2023 Posted October 19, 2023 8 minutes ago, Heavy Kevi said: I feel like there's almost no chance, but if I was Beane I'd be offering a 1st and a 3rd/4th to try and get this done. This iteration of our Bills is in it's late stages. There's about to be alot of roster turnover in the next couple years. ALL IN. Push them chips forward and try to get a Lombardi this year. The other superpowers are bolstering their rosters at this position right now too (hardman, Julio). It's an arms race. I mentioned him before but think Kendrick Bourne is the guy we should pursue as he won't cost much and think he'd fit in well with this locker room as he can play the slot or outside etc. and has pretty good hands, at times. 1 1 Quote
Dr. K Posted October 19, 2023 Posted October 19, 2023 51 minutes ago, Green Lightning said: Offer all of our other receivers, Elam and some picks. We will never beat elite teams with just Diggs and a collection of #3s.4s & 5 receivers. There's a very good reason why Beane is the GM and none of us are. Quote
Ethan in Cleveland Posted October 19, 2023 Posted October 19, 2023 On 9/29/2023 at 4:08 PM, Einstein's Dog said: With respect to in-season trade targets I would rather have Mike Evans, and Mike Evans is more realistic IMO. I think the Bills want someone who can accept being #2 on our team, have a contract that overlaps Diggs by a year at least (for Diggs insurance- he has shown some stability problems, much as D Adams is kind of doing). And there is a budget, probably a flexible budget but it doesn't seem to be unlimited. Evans isn't more realistic. Tampa is in playoff hunt. Raiders are not. Quote
The Firebaugh Kid Posted October 19, 2023 Posted October 19, 2023 29 minutes ago, Heavy Kevi said: I feel like there's almost no chance, but if I was Beane I'd be offering a 1st and a 3rd/4th to try and get this done. This iteration of our Bills is in it's late stages. There's about to be alot of roster turnover in the next couple years. ALL IN. Push them chips forward and try to get a Lombardi this year. The other superpowers are bolstering their rosters at this position right now too (hardman, Julio). It's an arms race. Agreed my friend. Id lovvvvve to see Adams and Diggs but the finances likely don’t allow it. PS Anyone in Geneva check out the Rusty Pig BBQ! 1 Quote
Wayne Arnold Posted October 19, 2023 Posted October 19, 2023 Beane needs to make a move for a wide receiver. Period. He can't evaluate WR talent / doesn't know what a good one looks like so we're going to have to rely on a proven commodity again. 1 1 Quote
Einstein's Dog Posted October 19, 2023 Posted October 19, 2023 2 minutes ago, Ethan in Cleveland said: Evans isn't more realistic. Tampa is in playoff hunt. Raiders are not. That is true now - please note I had put this out several weeks ago and had expected Tampa to fold. Unfortunately they did not. D Adams remains a long shot IMO because the Raiders aren't out of either, 3-3 w Chi up next. And I think he is too expensive - I see people claiming an inexpensive hit but for a player that just last year signed a $140M contract I think he would be over budget for us. And now the article linked showed just the kind of diva attitude we don't need more of - while winning Adams is complaining because his personal stats are not up to his standard The in-season trade to get a WR upgrade over Gabe is looking tough. Not a lot of teams out of it. Of those maybe Thielen of Car. I had floated out DHop again because Tenn is in the basement. If they lose to ATL they might give up. Quote
iccrewman112 Posted October 19, 2023 Posted October 19, 2023 (edited) If you trade for adams what do you expect from him on a per game average for the remainder of the season. It takes forever to integrate players into this team/system. does the offense have to be redesigned at all to maximize the value of adams? Do you trust Dorsey to do that in a matter of weeks? 6 catches for 70 yards Per game? is that even realistic? We want to play two tight end formations. So he and Diggs would get the snaps and Davis would be relegated to the sherfield role which is essentially nothing. Edited October 19, 2023 by iccrewman112 Quote
SCBills Posted October 19, 2023 Posted October 19, 2023 14 minutes ago, Wayne Arnold said: Beane needs to make a move for a wide receiver. Period. He can't evaluate WR talent / doesn't know what a good one looks like so we're going to have to rely on a proven commodity again. I don't know that he can't evaluate WR talent.. he just hasn't invested enough in it. Diggs wasn't at this level when we traded for him. Beane felt he could help JA and JA could help him. Same with Beasley, who had some of his best years with Allen. After that, Gabe Davis is/was a great value in RD4. Unfortunately, that's apparently where we decided to stop.... Diggs RD4 WR who is a high level WR3 RD5 WR JAG JAG That's not any way to build a WR room. Even the Chiefs, who we clown for their WR's, have their Gabe Davis lite in MVS along with back to back RD2 picks and now trades for Toney and to bring Hardman back. 1 1 1 Quote
Warriorspikes51 Posted October 19, 2023 Posted October 19, 2023 1 hour ago, Starr Almighty said: I can see them dealing Hunter Renfrow. He could be our new Beas he's a great route runner. I mean we haven't really tried Shakir there, but I wish we would 1 Quote
Ethan in Cleveland Posted October 19, 2023 Posted October 19, 2023 20 minutes ago, Einstein's Dog said: That is true now - please note I had put this out several weeks ago and had expected Tampa to fold. Unfortunately they did not. D Adams remains a long shot IMO because the Raiders aren't out of either, 3-3 w Chi up next. And I think he is too expensive - I see people claiming an inexpensive hit but for a player that just last year signed a $140M contract I think he would be over budget for us. And now the article linked showed just the kind of diva attitude we don't need more of - while winning Adams is complaining because his personal stats are not up to his standard The in-season trade to get a WR upgrade over Gabe is looking tough. Not a lot of teams out of it. Of those maybe Thielen of Car. I had floated out DHop again because Tenn is in the basement. If they lose to ATL they might give up. Gotcha I wasn't paying attention to the time. Agree it is very unlikely to occur. The cap would be a challenge but I think Bills would only be on the hook for a prorated portion of his salary this year. Of course his contract would explode the cap next year but you could cut him after they win the SuperBowl. DHop is a thought. Hasn't done much in Tenn. though. 1 Quote
Alphadawg7 Posted October 19, 2023 Author Posted October 19, 2023 2 hours ago, dave mcbride said: They are indeed frauds but they have six highly winnable games left: Bears, Giants, Jets at home, Vikings, Colts, and Broncos, plus maybe they get lucky at home vs the Chargers. They could very conceivably win 9-10 games and get into the playoffs, and you just know that for McDaniel, that's everything. It'll save his job. He's not trading their best player! Its not McDaniels call though, and the GM doesn't need the permission of the coach that may not be the HC very long given his long resume of suck outside of NE. Not saying it will happen, because it probably won't. However, it is also not unrealistic given his cap hit and the fact the Raiders may just decide to rebuild as Adams isn't getting any younger, and that team isn''t likely going to be ready to contend anytime soon. Quote
BillsShredder83 Posted October 19, 2023 Posted October 19, 2023 On 10/9/2023 at 11:44 AM, Straight Hucklebuck said: Well if that’s the case then by all means do what it takes to get that done. Adams is still in his prime (late). And that’s two elite route runners, gets Gabe Davis off the field. If we could make it work, do it. I think it would take a 1st, or a 2nd and another piece. NO! Gabe (#3 deep ball option, where hes ideal) and Davante on the outside, Stef in the slot almost full time or 70% ish. In the times we need Stef outside, is when Gabe can sit 1 Quote
BillsShredder83 Posted October 19, 2023 Posted October 19, 2023 3 hours ago, jahnyc said: I would love to see Adams in a Bills uniform, but I think the most pressing needs are on defense with a quality DT and CB being at the top of the list. defense is balling out while hurt..... we have this log jam of receivers that arent doing us much good as much as i wish they were. harty, shakir, sherfield, nothing against the guys but adding another fringe guy there only makes it cloudier, dorsey unsure how to use them. unless dorsey has a stroke and takes diggs or adams off the field, you really cant lose, josh will know how to use 2 elite route runners, and Gabe would feastttttttttttttttttttttt if we have a chance to grab a major asset at WR on the offense go for it, if not, im all set. can only trade for whats available but we should be calling, theres been smoke a bunch now. if we cant check that box, another DT or CB would be cool too... the waters there arent muddy enough where id be against trading for a mid level guy, no need to use major assets on a D thats performing like this. find a way to gas up the offense 1 Quote
Warriorspikes51 Posted October 19, 2023 Posted October 19, 2023 7 minutes ago, BillsShredder83 said: NO! Gabe (#3 deep ball option, where hes ideal) and Davante on the outside, Stef in the slot almost full time or 70% ish. In the times we need Stef outside, is when Gabe can sit Gabe would be wide open if Diggs and Adams are also on the field 3 Quote
Einstein's Dog Posted October 19, 2023 Posted October 19, 2023 1 hour ago, Ethan in Cleveland said: Gotcha I wasn't paying attention to the time. Agree it is very unlikely to occur. The cap would be a challenge but I think Bills would only be on the hook for a prorated portion of his salary this year. Of course his contract would explode the cap next year but you could cut him after they win the SuperBowl. DHop is a thought. Hasn't done much in Tenn. though. How could we cut him if his contract with the Raiders from last year had $65M guaranteed (according to spotrac)? He will have received about $50M. Quote
london_bills Posted October 19, 2023 Posted October 19, 2023 Anybody else reckon we're trying to trade Dawson Knox? Quote
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