Maynard Posted October 1, 2023 Posted October 1, 2023 8 hours ago, Nelius said: Feels like he's kind of been visibly wearing his frustration almost since he got there. Isn't he a good part of the reason why Carr is gone? Blech, can't do it for that alone, even if it is all fantasy. He's still a game changing mutant though. Almost has a potential Detroit debacle written all over it. Watch him head there, the team falls short in the playoffs, and he subsequently turns Goff back into a mess again putting Detroit back to QB square one. Not sure about that. Him and Carr were good buddies. Played at Fresno State together I believe. Unless they had a falling apart? Not sure. 1 Quote
BillsShredder83 Posted October 1, 2023 Posted October 1, 2023 3 hours ago, PatsFanNH said: Let’s see rookie year he wasn’t meh, last year with dumb and dumber he regressed a lot as did the entire O. This year so far he been a top 10 passer with no O line in front of him, (which shows stats don’t tell everything. Be interesting to see what he be like with a true #1 WR. After all There is not even one great QB in this league who doesn’t at least have 1 great WR with him. Bills fan, coming in peace...... this is new to you, so let a Bills fan who's not, help you out here. I know you BELIEVE this, hell..... i still think Trent Edwards woulda been the answer if Adrian Wilson hadnt scrambled his brains lol but i promise you, youll be better off the sooner you admit to yourself that when you see a QB of the future: A. You will know, no second guessing and B. It won't matter if your #1/#2 is Kelvin Benjamin/Zay Jones lol again you'll be able to tell without a bringing in a Titanic WR Ryan Fitzpatrick, Trent Edwards, Rob Johnson, Kelly Holcomb, Alex Van Pelt, oh JP Losman.... we've been there, and like a battered who wife WHO REALLY BELIEVES HIM THIS TIME, Mac will have you wearing another shiner (or maybe just some swollen testicles) next week/month/year. Quote
Scott7975 Posted October 1, 2023 Posted October 1, 2023 1 hour ago, PatsFanNH said: That was damn good for a rookie with zero weapons. Like I said I just want see what he is like with just one elite weapon. and last year you said exactly that about OC... "I just want to see what he looks like with a real OC." Every year you are going to be making these comments. Next year it will be... "I just want to see what he looks like with a good LT." He is an average mediocre QB. Thats all he will ever be. Ryan Fitzpatrick. Quote
Ethan in Cleveland Posted October 1, 2023 Posted October 1, 2023 On 9/29/2023 at 4:51 PM, Billzgobowlin said: Mid season trades have a small chance of helping the team as it disrupts the locker room and you have to fit the pieces Exaclty. Von Miller to LA was a disaster 1 Quote
PatsFanNH Posted October 1, 2023 Posted October 1, 2023 1 hour ago, BillsShredder83 said: Bills fan, coming in peace...... this is new to you, so let a Bills fan who's not, help you out here. I know you BELIEVE this, hell..... i still think Trent Edwards woulda been the answer if Adrian Wilson hadnt scrambled his brains lol but i promise you, youll be better off the sooner you admit to yourself that when you see a QB of the future: A. You will know, no second guessing and B. It won't matter if your #1/#2 is Kelvin Benjamin/Zay Jones lol again you'll be able to tell without a bringing in a Titanic WR Ryan Fitzpatrick, Trent Edwards, Rob Johnson, Kelly Holcomb, Alex Van Pelt, oh JP Losman.... we've been there, and like a battered who wife WHO REALLY BELIEVES HIM THIS TIME, Mac will have you wearing another shiner (or maybe just some swollen testicles) next week/month/year. Lol it’s been awhile for me but I loved threw the late 80’s and early 90’s as a fan and had to listen to talks about the team possibly moving to St Louis before Kraft bought them. That said he feels like a tease, I still would love a real weapon at WR again, the Pats haven’t had a true #1 WR since Moss? (Edelman was amazing but he was definitely a 2) Like I always say win or lose I still have to go to work tomorrow and every day till I win that big powerball lmbo.. 51 minutes ago, Scott7975 said: and last year you said exactly that about OC... "I just want to see what he looks like with a real OC." Every year you are going to be making these comments. Next year it will be... "I just want to see what he looks like with a good LT." He is an average mediocre QB. Thats all he will ever be. Ryan Fitzpatrick. Nope I did see him with a good OC that was his rookie year.. last year was just awful period.. this year who knows, he has faced some nasty d 1 Quote
Scott7975 Posted October 1, 2023 Posted October 1, 2023 3 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said: Lol it’s been awhile for me but I loved threw the late 80’s and early 90’s as a fan and had to listen to talks about the team possibly moving to St Louis before Kraft bought them. That said he feels like a tease, I still would love a real weapon at WR again, the Pats haven’t had a true #1 WR since Moss? (Edelman was amazing but he was definitely a 2) Like I always say win or lose I still have to go to work tomorrow and every day till I win that big powerball lmbo.. Nope I did see him with a good OC that was his rookie year.. last year was just awful period.. this year who knows, he has faced some nasty d Yes you did man. I'm in a middle of a game or id find it. Quote
PatsFanNH Posted October 1, 2023 Posted October 1, 2023 49 minutes ago, Scott7975 said: Yes you did man. I'm in a middle of a game or id find it. Lol don’t worry about it! I hope Buffalo adds 40 more in the second half! So everyone shuts up about how amazing Miami is. 1 Quote
Buffalo Barbarian Posted October 1, 2023 Posted October 1, 2023 On 9/29/2023 at 3:38 PM, Alphadawg7 said: There seems to be a growing sentiment that Adams may want out and that Raiders could explore a trade. Im not normally one to say go get someone like him between trade costs and cap space…but, he’s still dominant and a duo of him and Diggs with Allen at QB would be unreal. Now let me be clear, I’m fully aware the odds of this are slim to none, especially from a cap perspective, and I think the Bills are fine right now in terms of overall weapons anyway. But Bills were a team mentioned as one of 7 in a report talking about who should pursue him if traded and that just got me day dreaming of Diggs and Adams lined up on the field together with Allen 🤤 But hey, even though I know it won’t likely happen…let’s pretend Beane made the cap stuff work and wanted to pull the trigger…I would offer them Davis and our 2024 2nd without a second thought. A guy can dream can’t he lol https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10091109-7-nfl-teams-that-should-pursue-trade-for-raiders-davante-adams Could put us over the top, im in Quote
Aussie Joe Posted October 1, 2023 Posted October 1, 2023 9 minutes ago, HurlyBurly51 said: Adams just went down, so....no. So just the one first then? Quote
HurlyBurly51 Posted October 1, 2023 Posted October 1, 2023 4 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said: So just the one first then? Quote
BillsShredder83 Posted October 1, 2023 Posted October 1, 2023 On 9/30/2023 at 1:17 AM, BillsShredder83 said: Not a Cap guy. Choosing to ignore that for the thought Experiment. Gabe, Tre White, 2024 #2 & 3. If that doesn't create a Lombardi, Dorsey must go and Pegula should start digging a well for OC salary. Go proven because you must pull a Lombardi outta a trade like that, With this roster See, im a genius, shoulda done it lol Quote
BADOLBILZ Posted October 2, 2023 Posted October 2, 2023 9 hours ago, Einstein's Dog said: I don't see how you think D Adams would come cheaper than M Evans. M Evans might get 4 yrs $80M if he hits the open market, but he also might not. OBJ and DHop did not. With this consideration in mind, M Evans might accept something in their range $15M/yr- especially if he gets to play for the Bills, a team that is an ideal match for him. This is an advantage of trading for him. D Adams doesn't seem like the type to take less money. D Adams comes across as a bit of a diva. I think it would be a risk to the culture to even try and put together two WRs who both want to be #1. There have been some small little fires with Diggs, adding Adams doubles that. M Evans seems to be a great guy, who seems to have a better understanding of team chemistry and would be coming in for the #2 role. Evans agent wants him to be paid like a top 5 receiver..........that's why Tampa hasn't extended him.........you've followed his situation close enough you should know that $15M per ain't gonna' cut it. OBJ and DHop were damaged goods for whom there was some question whether they would bounce back..........Evans is nowhere near Adams as a WR at this point(he had almost 400 less yards and 8 less TD's last season) but he is still an actual 1,000 yard high producing WR.......... so OBJ and DHop aren't comps. So yeah, I think the impending free agent Evans will cost the Bills a lot more than the just $20M in cap hits that Adams would over the next season and a half. As for Adams seeming like something or another.........he wasn't a problem in Green Bay. He wanted to get paid but all WR's do. The idea that he couldn't share the spotlight with Diggs(or the opposite) is baseless speculation. 2 Quote
Buffalo Junction Posted October 2, 2023 Posted October 2, 2023 1 hour ago, BADOLBILZ said: Evans agent wants him to be paid like a top 5 receiver..........that's why Tampa hasn't extended him.........you've followed his situation close enough you should know that $15M per ain't gonna' cut it. OBJ and DHop were damaged goods for whom there was some question whether they would bounce back..........Evans is nowhere near Adams as a WR at this point(he had almost 400 less yards and 8 less TD's last season) but he is still an actual 1,000 yard high producing WR.......... so OBJ and DHop aren't comps. So yeah, I think the impending free agent Evans will cost the Bills a lot more than the just $20M in cap hits that Adams would over the next season and a half. As for Adams seeming like something or another.........he wasn't a problem in Green Bay. He wanted to get paid but all WR's do. The idea that he couldn't share the spotlight with Diggs(or the opposite) is baseless speculation. Adams’ has probably had enough of losing and Raiders culture to not care about sharing catches if it means winning and keeping his paychecks the same. Dude got accustomed to a winning culture and wants to be in one. Diggs probably wouldn’t care about sharing the spotlight either if the result was a SB. They’ve both been paid. 1 Quote
Warriorspikes51 Posted October 2, 2023 Posted October 2, 2023 7 hours ago, HurlyBurly51 said: Adams just went down, so....no. he came back and was still getting the ball. if we can get out of his contract after next season without destroying the cap, we should at least explore this Quote
Simon Posted October 5, 2023 Posted October 5, 2023 Davante Adams set on playing for Raiders long-term, believer in rookie QB Aidan O'Connell, per report Quote
Sierra Foothills Posted October 5, 2023 Posted October 5, 2023 16 minutes ago, Simon said: Davante Adams set on playing for Raiders long-term, believer in rookie QB Aidan O'Connell, per report The Raiders will regret letting Jarrett Stidham go. Quote
Hebert19 Posted October 9, 2023 Posted October 9, 2023 Vegas is cooked and likely to be sellers soon. Gabe is average. We need someone who can win quick. Score 40 a game and see who can keep up. 1 Quote
Billz4ever Posted October 9, 2023 Posted October 9, 2023 Dorsey wouldn't use him either. 2 1 1 1 Quote
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