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12 hours ago, Bubba Gump said:

 

You do know that his brother is the best ever UFC fighter, Jon Bones Jones? They spent some time growing up in Rochester. Jon has had drug problems in his past. So always remember, location does not discriminate. If you're not careful, trouble will find you no matter where you are. But yes, it's much easier to fk yourself in Vegas. 24/7, 365 baby. 

 

Rubbish!  

 

Sincerely,

Anderson Silva

Posted
Just now, Irv said:

 

Rubbish!  

 

Sincerely,

Anderson Silva

 

Was he undefeated in his career? He was a beast, as were most of those OG dudes. But Bones was on a different planet. Dude is nasty. 

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Posted
3 hours ago, KDIGGZ said:

Your boy Beane who you guys think walks on water...

 

1. Traded for Antonio Brown who luckily nixed the deal at the last moment then proceeded to get kicked off of 3 teams in like a year.

 

2. Offered the Von deal to Chandler Jones but he chose to go to Vegas instead. So he then pivoted to Von.

#2 is absolute tin foil hat wearing horse plucky.  

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Posted (edited)
8 minutes ago, Bubba Gump said:

 

Was he undefeated in his career? He was a beast, as were most of those OG dudes. But Bones was on a different planet. Dude is nasty. 

Won a lot of fights while on PED's and other drugs.  Cheated and lost to Matt Hamill.  Dude is a mess.  Brother the same.  Pound for pound a lot of average guys would kick his ass without the drugs he was/is on.  Solid no!

 

 

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1 hour ago, Irv said:

Won a lot of fights while on PED's and other drugs.  Cheated and lost to Matt Hamill.  Dude is a mess.  Brother the same.  Pound for pound a lot of average guys would kick his ass without the drugs he was/is on.  Solid no!

 

 

I can’t stand Bones and he’s a mess but “cheated” and lost to Hamill is a bit strong.  He made a mental mistake during a fight that he was dominating.  
 

average guys would kick his ass w/o the peds…..lol.  
 

I get why people hate him, I’m one of them, but your thoughts are extreme.  He’s top 5 ever….many feel the goat. 
 

 

1 hour ago, Irv said:

 

Rubbish!  

 

Sincerely,

Anderson Silva

https://syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/2757812-anderson-silva-making-sense-of-ufc-greats-legacy-after-2nd-failed-drug-test.amp.html
 

I agree that Silva is the best I’ve ever seen. 

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Posted
1 minute ago, NewEra said:

I can’t stand Bones and he’s a mess but “cheated” and lost to Hamill is a bit strong.  He made a mental mistake during a fight that he was dominating.  
 

average guys would kick his ass w/o the peds…..lol.  
 

I get why people hate him, I’m one of them, but your thoughts are extreme.  He’s top 5 ever….many feel the goat. 
 

 

Steroid cheat and woman abuser

 

Great fighter but total POS 

Posted
1 minute ago, GoBills808 said:

Steroid cheat and woman abuser

 

Great fighter but total POS 

He is.  I can’t stand him.  He’s still an all time great regardless

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Posted
25 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

He's like BJ Penn who frequents the bars around here, complete POS moron but amazing fighter


great comparison minus the W-L’s. Jones will never get punished like BJ did.  They’re only 8 years apart, yet BJ was toast 13 years ago.  
 

think he has CTE or is that just who he is?

Posted
1 hour ago, TheWeatherMan said:

#2 is absolute tin foil hat wearing horse plucky.  

Lol it absolutely happened. Beane tried all off-season to get CHANDLER JONES not Von Miller. Then Jones picked Vegas so he offered the same contract to Von and didn't think he would get him either and was shocked when he said yes. Von wanted to go to Dallas but they didn't offer as much as the Bills

Posted
1 minute ago, NewEra said:


great comparison minus the W-L’s. Jones will never get punished like BJ did.  They’re only 8 years apart, yet BJ was toast 13 years ago.  
 

think he has CTE or is that just who he is?

CTE plays a huge part imo

 

He probably wasn't a great guy beforehand but last 10years have been really rough on him...my brother is representing one of his baby mamas and the stories are wild😂😂

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Posted
4 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

CTE plays a huge part imo

 

He probably wasn't a great guy beforehand but last 10years have been really rough on him...my brother is representing one of his baby mamas and the stories are wild😂😂

 

All those UFC guys are bat ***** crazy. Some insane documentaries on some of them. I bet most of them dudes are high on pain killers when the step in the cage. And there's Dana White saying he doesn't allow anything illegal going on with any of his fighters. Meanwhile, he doubled in size, muscular speaking, but doesn't allow roids. He's clearly doing cycles himself. Prolly with Rogan too. He got huge out of nowhere also. 

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Posted (edited)
2 hours ago, NewEra said:


great comparison minus the W-L’s. Jones will never get punished like BJ did.  They’re only 8 years apart, yet BJ was toast 13 years ago.  
 

think he has CTE or is that just who he is?

BJ Penn is absolutely one of the goats of UFC regardless of record 

 

BJ Penn's record is inflated

 

He's a natural 155 pounder who moved all the way up to light heavy to fight machida in his career ... He constantly was moving up weight to fight bugger guys

 

His whole career was go up against bigger badder guys than himself

 

He dominated at 155.. first two division weight champ.. he submitted Matt Hughes who is a huge mother f***** and beast

 

Yes Jon Jones is the greatest MMA fighter of all time but BJ Penn is a machine

 

 

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Posted
38 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

BJ Penn is absolutely one of the goats of UFC regardless of record 

 

BJ Penn's record is inflated

 

He's a natural 155 pounder who moved all the way up to light heavy to fight machida in his career ... He constantly was moving up weight to fight bugger guys

 

His whole career was go up against bigger badder guys than himself

 

He dominated at 155.. first two division weight champ.. he submitted Matt Hughes who is a huge mother f***** and beast

 

Yes Jon Jones is the greatest MMA fighter of all time but BJ Penn is a machine

 

 

I’m not saying he’s not a great…..  I was just making a comparison to Jones.  
 

I know all about him and his career.  I’ve partied with him.  He’s one of my favorites.  He created 155 and opened the door for the smaller guys.  His victory over Hughes was top 10 in mma history knox.  I thought he beat GSP in their first matchup.  
 

He’s an icon and a legend. But his record pales in comparison to the guys in conversation for best ever.  As great as he was, he doesn’t belong in that conversation.  

 

I’m friends with a handful of his friends.  They all said the same thing- he would’ve been the best ever if would’ve had his head on straight for more than a couple years at a time.  They all insist that he choked on his silver spoon from time to time
 

 

Posted (edited)
4 minutes ago, NewEra said:

I’m not saying he’s not a great…..  I was just making a comparison to Jones.  
 

I know all about him and his career.  I’ve partied with him.  He’s one of my favorites.  He created 155 and opened the door for the smaller guys.  His victory over Hughes was top 10 in mma history knox.  I thought he beat GSP in their first matchup.  
 

He’s an icon and a legend. But his record pales in comparison to the guys in conversation for best ever.  As great as he was, he doesn’t belong in that conversation.  

 

I’m friends with a handful of his friends.  They all said the same thing- he would’ve been the best ever if would’ve had his head on straight for more than a couple years at a time.  They all insist that he choked on his silver spoon from time to time
 

 

Well when you're the youngest Brazilian jiu-jitsu world champion history

 

Nicknamed The prodigy... I'm sure it's not easy to stay grounded

 

With that said Jon Jones is by far the greatest mixed martial artist...  he's ana animal 

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Posted
14 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

Well when you're the youngest Brazilian jiu-jitsu world champion history

 

Nicknamed The prodigy... I'm sure it's not easy to stay grounded

 

With that said Jon Jones is by far the greatest mixed martial artist...  he's ana animal 

The silver spoon came from his family and upbringing 

 

I think there are 2 different valid viewpoints when it comes to GOAT of MMA.  
 

I do view Jon Jones as the greatest ever and just like you said, by far.  But if that’s the case, I would also view Barry Bonds as the greater baseball player ever.  And I do….. yet no one else does…. And I understand why.  The same reason some don’t regard JJ as the GOAT, even though, octogon performance wise, he blows everyone away. 
 

I don’t know how PEDs affected him inside the ring and he may have been the GOAT without them, but who knows for sure?  2 suspensions for PEDS and a positive test for Cocaine in which he admitted using it before his fight with Cormier.  
 

That kind of thing matters to people.  Ask Barry Bonds and Roger Clemens

Posted
27 minutes ago, NewEra said:

I’m not saying he’s not a great…..  I was just making a comparison to Jones.  
 

I know all about him and his career.  I’ve partied with him.  He’s one of my favorites.  He created 155 and opened the door for the smaller guys.  His victory over Hughes was top 10 in mma history knox.  I thought he beat GSP in their first matchup.  
 

He’s an icon and a legend. But his record pales in comparison to the guys in conversation for best ever.  As great as he was, he doesn’t belong in that conversation.  

 

I’m friends with a handful of his friends.  They all said the same thing- he would’ve been the best ever if would’ve had his head on straight for more than a couple years at a time.  They all insist that he choked on his silver spoon from time to time
 

 

It's true

 

He didn't train seriously enough toward the back half of his career and needed purse money which is why he hung around too long and his legacy suffered for it

 

But I have heard from the guys who know him and have trained w him in the past...everyone says he was one of the most gifted natural bjj talents ever

 

Some guys just aren't cut out to be superstars

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