GunnerBill Posted September 30, 2023 Posted September 30, 2023 On 9/30/2023 at 2:46 PM, Mr. WEO said: they aren't very deep. He gets short/dump passes then gets tackled pretty quick. Expand And he should be getting slightly deeper than he is on some of them. 1 Quote
Mr. WEO Posted September 30, 2023 Posted September 30, 2023 On 9/30/2023 at 1:55 AM, John from Riverside said: We’ve played three games Was he not used quite a bit in the first game? Expand not as a receiver. 4 for 26 yards. On 9/30/2023 at 2:48 PM, GunnerBill said: And he should be getting slightly deeper than he is on some of them. Expand looks more like the check down receiver though--hangs out by the sideline, looks back for a short pass, gets drilled. 1 Quote
Sherlock Holmes Posted September 30, 2023 Posted September 30, 2023 On 9/29/2023 at 1:01 PM, GunnerBill said: Johnson does know how to use his personnel very well. What is interersting is his passing scheme isn't particularly complex or creative. He knows what his guys can do and what they can't and he leans into it. The one concern I have re. Kincaid so far is he is struggling with his route depths. Expand Kincaid doesn't struggle with route depths...the route depths are struggling with Kincaid! 1 1 Quote
Simon Posted September 30, 2023 Posted September 30, 2023 On 9/30/2023 at 2:48 PM, GunnerBill said: And he should be getting slightly deeper than he is on some of them. Expand Yeah, it's not egregious but I have noticed several occasions where driving another yard or two downfield would have made a significant difference in the play outcome. Maybe he's uses to playing with college QB's that need bigger windows to squeeze throws in and this is just an adjustment period playing with Allen. 1 1 Quote
GunnerBill Posted September 30, 2023 Posted September 30, 2023 On 9/30/2023 at 2:59 PM, Simon said: Yeah, it's not egregious but I have noticed several occasions where driving another yard or two downfield would have made a significant difference in the play outcome. Maybe he's uses to playing with college QB's that need bigger windows to squeeze throws in and this is just an adjustment period playing with Allen. Expand To me he looks like he is just a bit over eager and is coming up a bit early. On 9/30/2023 at 2:52 PM, Mr. WEO said: not as a receiver. 4 for 26 yards. looks more like the check down receiver though--hangs out by the sideline, looks back for a short pass, gets drilled. Expand Yes that is definitely how they have used him for the most part so far. But I think he would be in a better position to break one if he was getting to the right depth. 1 Quote
Simon Posted September 30, 2023 Posted September 30, 2023 On 9/30/2023 at 3:06 PM, GunnerBill said: To me he looks like he is just a bit over eager and is coming up a bit early. Expand So you're suggesting it's a Frankie Goes to Hollywood issue? Relax, don't do it, when you want to cut.... 4 Quote
Meatloaf63 Posted September 30, 2023 Posted September 30, 2023 On 9/29/2023 at 2:20 PM, Buffalo_Stampede said: It’s tough right now because it’s Diggs and company right now. Hopefully it becomes Diggs, Kincaid, and company. Im not sure when it happens. Expand When Dorsey leaves… Quote
Buffalo_Stampede Posted September 30, 2023 Posted September 30, 2023 On 9/30/2023 at 4:14 PM, Meatloaf63 said: When Dorsey leaves… Expand Problem I believe is Davis and Knox haven’t developed into that 2nd option they hoped for. Now it’s politics. Davis and Knox are popular players. Allen wants Davis to eat but he just doesn’t get open enough. He’s a play killer. But Allen finds him on broken plays mostly. 1 1 Quote
HappyDays Posted September 30, 2023 Posted September 30, 2023 On 9/30/2023 at 3:06 PM, GunnerBill said: To me he looks like he is just a bit over eager and is coming up a bit early. Expand Don't judge, this happens to a lot of young men! 1 4 1 Quote
Augie Posted September 30, 2023 Posted September 30, 2023 On 9/30/2023 at 2:59 PM, Simon said: Yeah, it's not egregious but I have noticed several occasions where driving another yard or two downfield would have made a significant difference in the play outcome. Maybe he's uses to playing with college QB's that need bigger windows to squeeze throws in and this is just an adjustment period playing with Allen. Expand With Allen throwing at him he should WANT to get a little deeper so he doesn’t get his fingers broken! 1 1 Quote
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted September 30, 2023 Posted September 30, 2023 On 9/30/2023 at 7:14 PM, HappyDays said: Don't judge, this happens to a lot of young men! Expand Sometimes I would be so excited, I wouldn't get my socks off! 😕 3 Quote
Augie Posted September 30, 2023 Posted September 30, 2023 On 9/30/2023 at 3:06 PM, GunnerBill said: To me he looks like he is just a bit over eager and is coming up a bit early. Expand I like to think he can make his routes as disciplined as his eyes. A guy with that catch rate knows how to focus. Quote
Warriorspikes51 Posted October 1, 2023 Posted October 1, 2023 Throw 86 the ball more than 5 yards please 1 Quote
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted October 1, 2023 Posted October 1, 2023 Does Kincaid wear gloves? No? There's your problem * He does? OK, there's your problem. 🤔 1 Quote
Kaenon Posted October 1, 2023 Posted October 1, 2023 (edited) On 9/29/2023 at 1:17 PM, arcane said: And on Ben utilizing personnel - Detroit traded a good RB for a late round pick and then spent pick 12 on a RB, who they refuse to use in place of a JAG free agent signing Expand Me trying to determine what JAG means since I doubt it was a jaguars free agent RB. I feel old, and I don't wanna look it up. I got this... Just don't have it yet. Edit - just as good? On 10/1/2023 at 12:49 PM, Kaenon said: Me trying to determine what JAG means since I doubt it was a jaguars free agent RB. I feel old, and I don't wanna look it up. I got this... Just don't have it yet. Expand Edited October 1, 2023 by Kaenon Quote
Franco_92 Posted October 1, 2023 Posted October 1, 2023 On 10/1/2023 at 12:49 PM, Kaenon said: Me trying to determine what JAG means since I doubt it was a jaguars free agent RB. I feel old, and I don't wanna look it up. I got this... Just don't have it yet. Edit - just as good? Expand It means "just a guy." Not a particularly special player, just another RB, which is what Montgomery is 1 Quote
Chandler#81 Posted October 1, 2023 Posted October 1, 2023 On 10/1/2023 at 12:49 PM, Kaenon said: Me trying to determine what JAG means since I doubt it was a jaguars free agent RB. I feel old, and I don't wanna look it up. I got this... Just don't have it yet. Edit - just as good? Expand Just. Another. Guy. = jag 1 Quote
Chaos Posted October 1, 2023 Posted October 1, 2023 On 10/1/2023 at 12:49 PM, Kaenon said: Me trying to determine what JAG means since I doubt it was a jaguars free agent RB. I feel old, and I don't wanna look it up. I got this... Just don't have it yet. Edit - just as good? Expand 1 Quote
Meatloaf63 Posted October 1, 2023 Posted October 1, 2023 On 9/30/2023 at 5:00 PM, Buffalo_Stampede said: Problem I believe is Davis and Knox haven’t developed into that 2nd option they hoped for. Now it’s politics. Davis and Knox are popular players. Allen wants Davis to eat but he just doesn’t get open enough. He’s a play killer. But Allen finds him on broken plays mostly. Expand Totally agree. This offense is scoring, but it doesn’t look easy and still requires Allen to be a hero half the time. Play design seems suspect. Receivers to close to one another. Too many long developing plays when f’d get constant pressure. Year two the offense shouldn’t look this disjointed at this point. It’s functioning but not as efficient as it should be. Quote
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