We ever gonna use Kincaid ?

[Teddy KGB]

This Laporta kid drafted after him is crushing it in Detroit 

 

Id like to see similar things from Kincaid 

[scuba guy]

He stays in to block for brown

[DCofNC]

LaPorta looks like a steal, but it’s more to do with use than anything.  

[Franco_92]

Nope, never. It's over. Pack it in

[BuffaloBillyG]

It's been 3 games. 

 

Also fair to point out LaPorta is the Lions every snap TE. Kincaid is not an every snap player. He will be more involved. 

[78thealltimegreat]

That’s why I said to throw the brinks truck at Ben Johnson. Certain guys just know how to utilize personnel.

Maybe Ken will get there at some point but in general the Bills don’t utilize rookies as much as some other teams. 
 

[GunnerBill]

2 minutes ago, 78thealltimegreat said:

That’s why I said to throw the brinks truck at Ben Johnson. Certain guys just know how to utilize personnel.

Maybe Ken will get there at some point but in general the Bills don’t utilize rookies as much as some other teams. 
 

 

Johnson does know how to use his personnel very well. What is interersting is his passing scheme isn't particularly complex or creative. He knows what his guys can do and what they can't and he leans into it. 

 

The one concern I have re. Kincaid so far is he is struggling with his route depths. 

[QCity]

You don't want to burn him out before the playoffs. This is historically what happens with every rookie TE.

 

 

 

 

(according to TBD)

[DaBillsFanSince1973]

12 minutes ago, arcane said:

Nope, never. It's over. Pack it in

I agree, he was the flash in the pan that never flashed. stick a fork in him, he's done after 3 games in.

[K D]

Lol at first round TE! "But he's like a big Beasley!" Derp

[Blackbeard]

I swear some of you just parrot what goes on at WGR.

 

No.   We're never going to use him.  Ever.

[Franco_92]

18 minutes ago, 78thealltimegreat said:

That’s why I said to throw the brinks truck at Ben Johnson. Certain guys just know how to utilize personnel.

Maybe Ken will get there at some point but in general the Bills don’t utilize rookies as much as some other teams. 
 

Johnson relies on the best run blocking o-line in football, has a boring and unimpressive passing game, and before last night his team's advanced metrics centering on the run game were bottom 5 in the league

 

People love the hot new name though

Edited September 29, 2023 by arcane

[BillsFan130]

23 minutes ago, scuba guy said:

He stays in to block for brown

Is this true? I have seen him chip on a few occasions but not sure of the frequency.

 

 if this is the case, Knox should be doing that role and Kincaid should be running more routes downfield 

[Johnny Hammersticks]

I know, right?  A true late first round TE should have forty-fitty touchdowns by now.  

[Franco_92]

And on Ben utilizing personnel - Detroit traded a good RB for a late round pick and then spent pick 12 on a RB, who they refuse to use in place of a JAG free agent signing 

[GunnerBill]

2 minutes ago, arcane said:

And on Ben utilizing personnel - Detroit traded a good RB for a late round pick and then spent pick 12 on a RB, who they refuse to use in place of a JAG free agent signing 

 

That is true. But there was more to it with

Swift. It was a culture fit thing akin to the Bills trading Watkins. I did say middle of last season he was done in Detroit. 

[Johnnycage46]

If we start losing games and Kincaid is routinely open but not used...I think that is a problem.  But if we are winning, then who cares who gets the ball?

[corta765]

Andddd this is why I hate fans. Four weeks into the season people take massive brush strokes on rookies with no thinking behind it or giving time for things to play out.

 

-Kincaid is third on the Bills in receptions and yards

-He is pacing for the 5th most receptions ever by a rookie TE

-Only two rookie TEs ever have even broke 1000 yards and just five have broke 800 yards

-11 TE's in the history of the NFL as a rookie have broken 600 yards, by comparison 6 rookie WRs last year broke 600 yards. It is a legitimately difficult position to learn and integrate a new player year one.

-The Bills offense is still working in many new pieces at this point it is far from a finished product

-If you watch All 22 Kincaid is open 24/7 and doing his part, Josh is building trust and learning to find him. The Jets game Kincaid could've had a 100 yards easily if Josh stopped playing hero ball

-Plenty of players as rookies come on hot and hit the rookie wall, others take their time in the first half of the season and find their wings

[Teddy KGB]

8 minutes ago, Blackbeard said:

I swear some of you just parrot what goes on at WGR.

 

No.   We're never going to use him.  Ever.

You gonna be okay or going to cry about a conversation starter ? 

7 minutes ago, Johnny Hammersticks said:

I know, right?  A true late first round TE should have forty-fitty touchdowns by now.  

At least 6 by now 🤣

[GunnerBill]

1 minute ago, corta765 said:

Andddd this is why I hate fans. Four weeks into the season people take massive brush strokes on rookies with no thinking behind it or giving time for things to play out.

 

-Kincaid is third on the Bills in receptions and yards

-He is pacing for the 5th most receptions ever by a rookie TE

-Only two rookie TEs ever have even broke 1000 yards and just five have broke 800 yards

-11 TE's in the history of the NFL as a rookie have broken 600 yards, by comparison 6 rookie WRs last year broke 600 yards. It is a legitimately difficult position to learn and integrate a new player year one.

-The Bills offense is still working in many new pieces at this point it is far from a finished product

-If you watch All 22 Kincaid is open 24/7 and doing his part, Josh is building trust and learning to find him. The Jets game Kincaid could've had a 100 yards easily if Josh stopped playing hero ball

-Plenty of players as rookies come on hot and hit the rookie wall, others take their time in the first half of the season and find their wings

 

Agree with all that.... but on the open thing... he is... but I am not sure he is where he should be at all times. Especially his route depths as I have mentioned.