Week 4 AFC Power Rankings

[Sammy Watkins' Rib]

9 hours ago, cle23 said:

 

So the Chiefs are penalized for playing the Jets, while the Bills lost to the Jets and aren't?  Not trying to pick a fight, but the logic there is ludicrous. 

 

3 weeks into the season, the Power Rankings are mostly pointless as the sample size isn't big enough.  Some schedules are front loaded and others are back loaded, so it's hard to rank teams.

The logic is sound. 

 

It’s about the bills playing a top five team this weekend. To this point neither to the chiefs or bills have played a top five team.

 

The bills can jump the Chiefs and the dolphins this weekend.

[BuffaloBillyG]

I don't get the overwhelming majority putting the Chiefs ahead of the Bills.

 

Week 1: We both lost. I would say Kelce/Jones had a hand in their loss but they were also at home in a banner drop game. We were on the road against a top defense.

 

Week 2: Both won. Buffalo dominated a bottom 10 team. Chiefs won against a Jag team...I can't get a handle on. And they struggled.

 

Week:: Both won. Buffalo won their game on the road against a middle of the pack to mediocre team. Chiefs motorboat the worst team in football, in a week their DC re-signs, on their own home turf. 

 

First impression of this version of the Chiefs is they are vulnerable. Buffalo and/or Miami could easily pass them by.

[cle23]

55 minutes ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said:

The logic is sound. 

 

It’s about the bills playing a top five team this weekend. To this point neither to the chiefs or bills have played a top five team.

 

The bills can jump the Chiefs and the dolphins this weekend.

 

Yes, the Bills beating the Dolphins this weekend would be the strongest win, so yes, at that point it would make sense.  But beating the Jets doesn't hurt the Chiefs. 

[PatsFanNH]

On 9/26/2023 at 12:27 PM, Royale with Cheese said:

 

The AFC kinda sucks so far.

This right here! This has been so true! Outside of Buffalo, who even they give me hope of bad Allen shows up that week, no one looks all that scary or unbeatable. 

[NewEra]

1 hour ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

I don't get the overwhelming majority putting the Chiefs ahead of the Bills.

 

Week 1: We both lost. I would say Kelce/Jones had a hand in their loss but they were also at home in a banner drop game. We were on the road against a top defense.

 

Week 2: Both won. Buffalo dominated a bottom 10 team. Chiefs won against a Jag team...I can't get a handle on. And they struggled.

 

Week:: Both won. Buffalo won their game on the road against a middle of the pack to mediocre team. Chiefs motorboat the worst team in football, in a week their DC re-signs, on their own home turf. 

 

First impression of this version of the Chiefs is they are vulnerable. Buffalo and/or Miami could easily pass them by.

Chiefs lost while being without 2 of their 3 elite players.

 

Bills lost to Zach Wilson. 
 

that’s why I think the chiefs deserve to be ahead of the bills.

[BuffaloBillyG]

1 hour ago, NewEra said:

Chiefs lost while being without 2 of their 3 elite players.

 

Bills lost to Zach Wilson. 
 

that’s why I think the chiefs deserve to be ahead of the bills.

That's a valid point. 

 

Except the Bills lost to the Jets who have a Super Bowl caliber defense. Not Zach Wilson. Wins...still not a QB stat. 

 

 

[NewEra]

5 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

That's a valid point. 

 

Except the Bills lost to the Jets who have a Super Bowl caliber defense. Not Zach Wilson. Wins...still not a QB stat. 

 

 

Dallas put up 30 on that defense.  Mac jones had zero turnover and put up one less point than allen did and the pats beat that defense

 

you do agree that KC (without Kelce and jones) losing to Detroit is a better looking loss than the bills losing to jets?

 

I think we’re better than the chiefs at full strength. I thought we were better than them last year.  We beat them in their stadium. I thought we were better than the previous year, when the impossible happened in 13 seconds. 
 

but based on the games played this year, I’d probably give KC the nod just based on the losses.  

[Scott7975]

3 minutes ago, NewEra said:

Dallas put up 30 on that defense.  Mac jones had zero turnover and put up one less point than allen did and the pats beat that defense

 

you do agree that KC (without Kelce and jones) losing to Detroit is a better looking loss than the bills losing to jets?

 

I think we’re better than the chiefs at full strength. I thought we were better than them last year.  We beat them in their stadium. I thought we were better than the previous year, when the impossible happened in 13 seconds. 
 

but based on the games played this year, I’d probably give KC the nod just based on the losses.  

 

Yes, but in the same sense I think the Bills look better rolling the Raiders than the Chiefs do struggling to the Jags. I think the Jags are overrated.  I honestly don't care though. It means nothing at the end of the day. I think the winner of Bills/Fish game this week is #1 to this point of the season.

[NewEra]

4 minutes ago, Scott7975 said:

 

Yes, but in the same sense I think the Bills look better rolling the Raiders than the Chiefs do struggling to the Jags. I think the Jags are overrated.  I honestly don't care though. It means nothing at the end of the day. I think the winner of Bills/Fish game this week is #1 to this point of the season.

Yeah, means nothing after Sunday 

[Big Blitz]

3 hours ago, NewEra said:

Chiefs lost while being without 2 of their 3 elite players.

 

Bills lost to Zach Wilson. 
 

that’s why I think the chiefs deserve to be ahead of the bills.

 

Divison games are different.  
 

Like why the Ravens and Browns handle the Bengals.  
 

Or the Patriots only allow the Fish to score 7 second half points.  

[NewEra]

8 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

 

Divison games are different.  
 

Like why the Ravens and Browns handle the Bengals.  
 

Or the Patriots only allow the Fish to score 7 second half points.  

Ok, the chiefs loss, without 2 superstars, is worse than losing to Zach Wilson because it’s a division game.  🤷🏻‍♂️ 

[Dr.Sack]

Point Differential works:

1 Dolphins +59

2 Bills +56

3 49ers +48

4 Cowboys +48

5 Browns +41 

6 Chiefs +38

7 Eagles +25

8 Packers +18

9 Ravens +16 

10 Lions +9 

11 Rams +7 

12 Cardinals +5 

13 Colts +4 

14 Saints +3 

15 Falcons +1 

16 Seahawks -1

17 Chargers -1 

18 Buccaneers -1

19 Texans -7

20 Patriots -7 

21 Vikings -13

22 Steelers -14

23 Jaguars -18

24 Jets -19 

25 Bengals -21

26 Titans -22

27 Panthers -27

28 Commanders -28 

29 Raiders -32 

30 Broncos -53 

31 Giants -55

32 Bears -59

 

 

[Airseven]

9 hours ago, NewEra said:

Chiefs lost while being without 2 of their 3 elite players.

 

Bills lost to Zach Wilson. 
 

that’s why I think the chiefs deserve to be ahead of the bills.

Yes, Allen’s performance is the lowest floor. Chiefs were missing 2 of their 3 best players in their loss. Bills best player played perhaps his worst game out of the gates. Chiefs are ahead of the Bills right now.

 

Also, I don’t know why some people get hung up on point differential. It’s a silly stat lacking all context.

Edited September 28, 2023 by Airseven

[Straight Hucklebuck]

8 hours ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

That's a valid point. 

 

Except the Bills lost to the Jets who have a Super Bowl caliber defense. Not Zach Wilson. Wins...still not a QB stat. 

 

 

Dallas had no issues moving the ball on the Jets defense. 

[Scott7975]

19 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said:

Dallas had no issues moving the ball on the Jets defense. 

 

They did have troubles scoring TDs though.  Dallas and Jets dont know each other like Bills and Jets do. Division games are usually more difficult for this reason.  Bills didn't really have a problem moving the ball either until Allen turned it over.  Dallas got 4 turnovers. On the flipside Allen turned it over 4 times.

[BuffaloBillyG]

26 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said:

Dallas had no issues moving the ball on the Jets defense. 

Neither did Buffalo. The difference was Dak remained patient and took what was given the entire game. Josh did not. 

[Max Fischer]

The Browns defense is legit. I sure hope the offense doesn't get it self together. Watson is a dirtbag but if he just plays moderately well . . .

[Gregg]

1 minute ago, Scott7975 said:

 

They did have troubles scoring TDs though.  Dallas and Jets dont know each other like Bills and Jets do. Division games are usually more difficult for this reason.  Bills didn't really have a problem moving the ball either until Allen turned it over.  Dallas got 4 turnovers. On the flipside Allen turned it over 4 times.

 

The Jets built their team to play the Bills since they have been the top in the division for the past few seasons. Also, they view games against the Bills as their personal Super Bowl. Look at their game against NE they came out and played BLAH. But the Bills they get fired up for at least since Saleh has been there.

[Scott7975]

8 minutes ago, Gregg said:

 

The Jets built their team to play the Bills since they have been the top in the division for the past few seasons. Also, they view games against the Bills as their personal Super Bowl. Look at their game against NE they came out and played BLAH. But the Bills they get fired up for at least since Saleh has been there.

 

Exactly. We see the Jets twice a year every year. They plan all season for our games because we are the target. We are the litmus test. And they do have a damn good defense.  Outside of QB, that team is well built with some highly talented young guys to boot.  Dallas and the Jets is just another game on the schedule.  Division games are different.  Especially week 1.

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

On 9/26/2023 at 1:44 PM, Giuseppe Tognarelli said:

Honestly, they got totally screwed by the officials (legitimately), half their team was injured, and the Colts had the veteran Minshew starting.

Idk what their deal is but half the ravens team is always injured lol idk at what point it stops being an excuse if it’s almost always true