Visiting Teams having Lots of Fans in the Stands

[LewPort71]

Watch any game from SoFi stadium, shared home of  the Rams and Chargers. It always seems the visitors out numbers

and out cheers the 'hometown' fans.  My friend was at the Wash..Bills contest and he was amazed at the size and the loudness

of the Bill's fans.  

[SoCal Deek]

Long before the Raiders moved to Vegas I had hoped the NFL would’ve had every team play a game there once a year. The entire thing would be one big party and an annual must-attend road trip for fans. The Super Bowl could’ve been played there every four or five years as well since it’d be a truly neutral site for everyone. Now with a seventeen game schedule it would’ve been even more ideal. Nobody would lose a home game. Unfortunately they went the route of having a team of their own. 

Edited September 26, 2023 by SoCal Deek

[zow2]

Bills fans were waving goodbye to Washington fans late in the 4th as they were heading for the exits.  It was pretty lighthearted, not even any swearing or anything.  One older meathead Commanders fan was drunk and came back to challenge the Bills fans in front of me.  Said something about disrespecting them in their house and you need to back your words.  I was so glad the Bills fan (who was younger, maybe 30, and about 6'4" 240-250) said "I'm not getting arrested over this".  He could've easily pounded the drunk guy, who was screaming his head off-  into next week.  Finally the drunk guys friend pulled him away along with a security dude who showed up.

[Matt_In_NH]

22 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

Long before the Raiders moved to Vegas I had hoped the NFL would’ve had every team play a game there once a year. The entire thing would be one big party and an annual must-attend road trip for fans. The Super Bowl could’ve been played there every four or five years as well since it’d be a truly neutral site for everyone. Now with a seventeen game schedule it would’ve been even more ideal. Nobody would lose a home game. Unfortunately they went the route of having a team of their own. 

With the 17th game, everyone gets a neutral site game in Vegas.....I say they could still do it.   Take Metlife, they flipped that in 24 hours from Sunday night to Monday night.

[eee1776]

19 hours ago, Bob Jones said:

Don’t the Bills try to curb this problem by NOT selling to buyers who have a zip code outside of WNY?

A lot of folks thst have zip codes way out of the Blo area got grandfathered in. I live in Charlotte and I know of fans that still have season tickets that make a good amount of money doing just that.

[JohnNord]

20 hours ago, Bob Jones said:

Reading some of the posts in here about yesterdays Bills game, where the Bills fans were about 50% of the crowd (just guessing by what folks who were there said) got me wondering WTF is going on with all these NFL home teams not being able to fill their stadiums with their hometown fans? Saw it yesterday in Jacksonville (Chiefs fans), and Las Vegas (Steelers fans), and sort of sounds like there are a lot of Philly fans in Tampa. Are NFL tickets nowadays just like an investment, where the original purchaser knows they’ll be able to make buku $$$ by selling it to a visiting fan? I don’t like it, I don’t like it one bit.

There are much better ways to invest your money than trying to flip season tickets. 
 

Depending on the game/season you might be able to make a few hundred dollars but you also might lose money too.   Things change fast in sports.  
 

I had a friend who owned Sabres season tickets and relocated to the West Coast.  He kept his seasons, thinking he could sell the important games on Craig’s list and then to family and friends for at cost or somewhere close.   He did fairly decent at first, largely from the inflated prices of games against Canadian teams or top teams like Boston at the time.  But then the Sabres drought in.  He started off almost breaking even, which he was ok with.  Then the team started to suck and tickets were in less demand.  He took a bath for the next three season, before just giving up.   He held out hope that the team could get better - but when he literally couldn’t even give away free tickets, he knew it was over.
 

The NFL is a bit of different situation.  There are less games and ticket prices are much more in general.  But to maximize your investment there has to be demand for the tickets, which usually means - the team has to be a contender every year 

Edited September 26, 2023 by JohnNord

[Breakout Squad]

20 hours ago, Einstein said:

This is a photo I took of the Jags game yesterday. I couldn’t believe my eyes. Towards the end of 2nd quarter, if I recall correctly.

 

 

 

 

That’s real bad 

[BillsPride12]

I think sports fans going on road trips to watch their teams in other cities/stadiums has really evolved into a big thing over the years.  You see a lot of visiting fans in every NFL stadium nowadays and yes that's including ours.  I love going to Bills games in Orchard Park but after going to so many of them over the years the excitement wears off a little bit but it's always fun and exciting getting to go see the Bills play on the road and take over another city and stadium.  

[WhoTom]

2 hours ago, Matt_In_NH said:

With the 17th game, everyone gets a neutral site game in Vegas

 

Everyone except the Raiders.

 

[SoCal Deek]

1 hour ago, WhoTom said:

 

Everyone except the Raiders.

 

They’d be forced to sit on the side without slot machines. 

[djp14150]

14 hours ago, Bleeding Bills Blue said:

 

Makes sense, i don't know my florida geography very well truthfully - i drove through jacksonville once omw to miami so... i figured atlantic coast? i just dont know of any schools there.  The military factor definitely plays into it. 

There is a state school north Florida ( heard of south Florida, annd central Florida in football??) and some other small schools.  Their is no big schools.  Gainesville isn’t that far from jacksonville. In Georgia…tech is in atlanta and Athens is where Univ of Georgia is which is SE of Atlanta.

 

having a large military and retiree residence also has loyalties tied to other teams rather than the home team.  You also have 5+ month Canadian residents in the area

[Kirby Jackson]

22 hours ago, Billsatlastin2018 said:

Well, are Buffalonians going to be paying $4-500 a pop when that new Stadium is built?

They are doing it now on a smaller scale (and it won’t be $400-$500 for the most part it’ll be closer to $200-$300). It’s a tired narrative that Bills fans can’t afford tickets. Watch next week in London how many Bills fans made the trip. The entire trip is no less than $2k per person and there will be THOUSANDS. 

[Chicken Boo]

I'm in the DC metropolitan area.  I was weighing whether or not to go to the game this past Sunday.  

 

2 tickets in a reasonable seating area (I'm anti-nose bleed section) were $500 before any applicable fees and didn't include parking.

 

No thanks.  I can comfortably watch from home.

[SirAndrew]

On 9/26/2023 at 4:30 PM, JohnNord said:

There are much better ways to invest your money than trying to flip season tickets. 
 

Depending on the game/season you might be able to make a few hundred dollars but you also might lose money too.   Things change fast in sports.  
 

I had a friend who owned Sabres season tickets and relocated to the West Coast.  He kept his seasons, thinking he could sell the important games on Craig’s list and then to family and friends for at cost or somewhere close.   He did fairly decent at first, largely from the inflated prices of games against Canadian teams or top teams like Boston at the time.  But then the Sabres drought in.  He started off almost breaking even, which he was ok with.  Then the team started to suck and tickets were in less demand.  He took a bath for the next three season, before just giving up.   He held out hope that the team could get better - but when he literally couldn’t even give away free tickets, he knew it was over.
 

The NFL is a bit of different situation.  There are less games and ticket prices are much more in general.  But to maximize your investment there has to be demand for the tickets, which usually means - the team has to be a contender every year 

Good point, there are definitely better ways to invest that money. Imagine being a Jets fan trying to flip seasons after the Rodgers injury. Football tickets in particular are always one injury away from being worthless.