Week 4, Bills favored by 3 over Dolphins

[Boatdrinks]

1 hour ago, Your Brown Eye said:

I really hope the Bills blitz every play and knock Tua into next month. They will be rolling into Buffalo cocky as hell, I want them to go back to Miami in a body bag

While blitzing every play is probably not a recipe for success, I can appreciate the enthusiasm in this post. 

[HereComesTheReignAgain]

26 minutes ago, newcam2012 said:

He a top 3 WR in the NFL if you are talking football only. 

And if you aren’t talking football only, he’s piece of trash that beats pregnant women and toddlers. 

[gobills404]

1 hour ago, Your Brown Eye said:

I really hope the Bills blitz every play and knock Tua into next month. They will be rolling into Buffalo cocky as hell, I want them to go back to Miami in a body bag

He has the fastest time to throw in the league so far this year. I don’t know what his stats look like against the blitz but I’d reckon they’re pretty darn good.

[MiltonWaddams]

3 minutes ago, gobills404 said:

He has the fastest time to throw in the league so far this year. I don’t know what his stats look like against the blitz but I’d reckon they’re pretty darn good.

The key to beating Miami is to continue down the path of the 4 man rush with a lot of disguised coverage. Blitzing a guy getting the ball out in under 2.5 seconds with the fastest weapons in the league at his disposal is a recipe for disaster 

[Scott7975]

OT: this came on my feed today. I get the injury concerns is part of why rules changed, but yes I miss this football.

 

 

[Boatdrinks]

55 minutes ago, Scott7975 said:

OT: this came on my feed today. I get the injury concerns is part of why rules changed, but yes I miss this football.

 

 

Absolutely.. we’re watching a different game now that’s just not quite as good. 

[Zag20]

26 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said:

Absolutely.. we’re watching a different game now that’s just not quite as good. 

I actually got a little sick watching that remembering things like Johnny Knox getting broken in half. The changes to the rules that they’ve made are the right moves, even if it sterilizes the experience a bit. 

[GoBills808]

2 hours ago, Scott7975 said:

OT: this came on my feed today. I get the injury concerns is part of why rules changed, but yes I miss this football.

 

 

Not even a little

And fwiw neither does Doc Kleiman lmfao

 

He's like 32and lives in Tel Aviv

[Dr.Sack]

3 hours ago, MiltonWaddams said:

The key to beating Miami is to continue down the path of the 4 man rush with a lot of disguised coverage. Blitzing a guy getting the ball out in under 2.5 seconds with the fastest weapons in the league at his disposal is a recipe for disaster 

No need. Rush 4, cover their 5 targets with 7. 

[Richard Noggin]

3 hours ago, Scott7975 said:

OT: this came on my feed today. I get the injury concerns is part of why rules changed, but yes I miss this football.

 

 

 

I do not MISS it, no.

 

Was it incredibly entertaining at the time?  Like watching the '90s Knicks against anyone else in the East? Yes, of course. Like watching the '80s Sabres brawl with the Bruins? Penalty boxes absolutely bulging with humanity? Hell yeah. 

 

I wasn't cognizant enough to remember the amazing violence and gladiatorial brutality of defense (and the heightened, epic beauty of downfield offensive breakthroughs) 70s bloodsport football.

 

Was it irresponsible and salaciously exploitative? Obviously. Probably why it was so narcotically appealing. The era of head-hunting and otherwise overtly violent collisions visited upon offensive skill players who dared go downfield or over the middle was potentially a reflection of the times. 

[DaBillsFanSince1973]

 

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

2 hours ago, Richard Noggin said:

 

I do not MISS it, no.

 

Was it incredibly entertaining at the time?  Like watching the '90s Knicks against anyone else in the East? Yes, of course. Like watching the '80s Sabres brawl with the Bruins? Penalty boxes absolutely bulging with humanity? Hell yeah. 

 

I wasn't cognizant enough to remember the amazing violence and gladiatorial brutality of defense (and the heightened, epic beauty of downfield offensive breakthroughs) 70s bloodsport football.

 

Was it irresponsible and salaciously exploitative? Obviously. Probably why it was so narcotically appealing. The era of head-hunting and otherwise overtly violent collisions visited upon offensive skill players who dared go downfield or over the middle was potentially a reflection of the times. 

In other words, it was actual football.

 

This era of coddling offense has cheapened the game.

 

What do I mean? Dan Marino's numbers are FAR FAR FAAAR more impressive than those Brady or Manning put up, because he had to contend with defenses that were actually allowed to defend.

Edited September 28, 2023 by Pine Barrens Mafia

[newcam2012]

3 hours ago, Dr.Sack said:

No need. Rush 4, cover their 5 targets with 7. 

I think what's not being talked about enough is the Miami schemes and motion. They are very creative and create mismatches and perhaps confusion. Couple that with their speed, a competent run game, and Tua's ability to throw quickly.  That's a tough problem for any defense. 

 

I'm no defensive coordinator but last year I saw the Charger D dominant the Miami O. Their DBs were very physical at the line of scrimmage. Bumped the Miami WRs continuously. I don't think the Bills have the personell to do this effectively. 

 

Secondly, I think you have to clog the middle of the field. Make Tua beat you outside the numbers. Easier said then done with the best 1-2 WR in the league. 

 

Thirdly, the Bills have to tackle. Miami lives off of the YAC. A missed tackle can lead to a TD. The Miami explosiveness at the skill positions is off the charts. 

 

I'm really looking forward to this game. It has so many interesting facts. What kind of Allen do the Bills get? Can the Bills D rattle Tua and create some turnovers? Cook vs Mosert usage and productivity could be crucial to each offense. Fangio defense? McD vs McDaniels? 

 

Great early test for both teams. 

 

Edited September 28, 2023 by newcam2012

[DaBillsFanSince1973]

NFL Week 4 Picks From the MMQB Staff: Dolphins Visit Bills in AFC East Showdown

 

It’s Week 4! The Dolphins were the biggest story in the NFL last week, putting up 70 points against the Broncos. Now they face a tougher test with a visit to Buffalo for a divisional showdown against the Bills. Meanwhile, can Denver bounce back with a trip to Chicago to face the also-winless Bears? 

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[Since1981]

3 hours ago, Dr.Sack said:

No need. Rush 4, cover their 5 targets with 7.

Maybe rush 2-3? A few times, anti blitz

tuia releases in 2 sec

 play 8 off and have extra to bang hill at line

[yall]

8 hours ago, HereComesTheReignAgain said:

And if you aren’t talking football only, he’s piece of trash that beats pregnant women and toddlers. 

Don't forget old men at marinas as well!

[finn]

8 hours ago, MiltonWaddams said:

The key to beating Miami is to continue down the path of the 4 man rush with a lot of disguised coverage. Blitzing a guy getting the ball out in under 2.5 seconds with the fastest weapons in the league at his disposal is a recipe for disaster 

Maybe the answer is to rush three in that case, drop eight, and jam the receivers to disrupt the timing. At least every once in a while. Not easy to throw into a flooded zone. 

27 minutes ago, Since1981 said:

Maybe rush 2-3? A few times, anti blitz

tuia releases in 2 sec

 play 8 off and have extra to bang hill at line

Sorry, I didn't read your post before saying the same thing. 

[Lost]

8 hours ago, Scott7975 said:

OT: this came on my feed today. I get the injury concerns is part of why rules changed, but yes I miss this football.

 

 

 

 

We still get nuggets of nostalgia like this occasionally.

 

 

[Scott7975]

1 hour ago, newcam2012 said:

I think what's not being talked about enough is the Miami schemes and motion. They are very creative and create mismatches and perhaps confusion. Couple that with their speed, a competent run game, and Tua's ability to throw quickly.  That's a tough problem for any defense. 

 

I'm no defensive coordinator but last year I saw the Charger D dominant the Miami O. Their DBs were very physical at the line of scrimmage. Bumped the Miami WRs continuously. I don't think the Bills have the personell to do this effectively. 

 

Secondly, I think you have to clog the middle of the field. Make Tua beat you outside the numbers. Easier said then done with the best 1-2 WR in the league. 

 

Thirdly, the Bills have to tackle. Miami lives off of the YAC. A missed tackle can lead to a TD. The Miami explosiveness at the skill positions is off the charts. 

 

I'm really looking forward to this game. It has so many interesting facts. What kind of Allen do the Bills get? Can the Bills D rattle Tua and create some turnovers? Cook vs Mosert usage and productivity could be crucial to each offense. Fangio defense? McD vs McDaniels? 

 

Great early test for both teams. 

 

 

Yeah their motions are fast and tight.  I seen some plays that were runs and the ball fooled me watching from a good side view camera angle.  I had to watch twice lol. I can't imagine being a defender and trying to see that from a pile of people view.

 

Elam is in the dog house but he is a good defender for this because he has speed and he is pretty sticky. Thats his skill set.  I doubt he is active though.  Next best thing is maintaining tight zone coverage.  Not Edmunds zone coverage where he stands in a spot staring at the QB while the receiver just moves past him from behind and Edmunds doesnt move until after the receiver catches the ball.  It needs to be tight.  Tackling is going to be key. They have to keep in front of them and tackle at the point of catch.  Miami thrives off 10-15 yard plays over the middle with YAC after that.  Middle of the line needs to get good push.  Make Tua move.  Anything that disrupts the timing where he has to hold the ball.  Thats where his mistakes come.  They are not good at off script stuff.

Edited September 28, 2023 by Scott7975

[SoMAn]

8 hours ago, Scott7975 said:

OT: this came on my feed today. I get the injury concerns is part of why rules changed, but yes I miss this football.

 

 

If rules that eliminates some of these violent shots saves one player from life in a wheelchair or on a ventilator, the league has made the right decision. It hasn't made the game any less entertaining, just safer for these young guys who are already exposing themselves to potential injury every down.