Scott7975 Posted September 22, 2023 Posted September 22, 2023 "Can't take it out of his game. Thats what makes Allen special." 5 3 4 Quote
julian Posted September 22, 2023 Posted September 22, 2023 1 minute ago, Scott7975 said: "Can't take it out of his game. Thats what makes Allen special." Yeah hopefully more people come to terms with this. The INTs aren’t the problem, it’s the decision making when the opposition is forcing him to be patient. I believe he’s on the verge of of graduating to another level of greatness. 6 8 Quote
Chaos Posted September 22, 2023 Posted September 22, 2023 Daniel Jones was very patient last night taking what the defense gave him. Which was lots of punts. Sometimes winning requires making things happen rather than be patient. 1 1 1 1 5 1 4 Quote
strive_for_five_guy Posted September 22, 2023 Posted September 22, 2023 I’m liking the play action passing plays from under center. Looks like he’s got passing options at three levels right in front of him, can pick the best passing option from there. 4 3 Quote
LABILLBACKER Posted September 23, 2023 Posted September 23, 2023 25 minutes ago, Chaos said: Daniel Jones was very patient last night taking what the defense gave him. Which was lots of punts. Sometimes winning requires making things happen rather than be patient. It's a complimentary mix of both. The Jets game was 1 quarter of patience and 3 quarters of hero "reckless" ball. Josh will have opportunities to go deep when teams relax on deep cover 2. In the meantime he should continue with the Raider gameplan in Washington. 2 4 Quote
BillsFan130 Posted September 23, 2023 Posted September 23, 2023 (edited) The last thing we want is to turn Josh into Chad Pennington. Hes an elite QB because he’s a gun slinger and can make throws no other QB outside of Mahomes can make. He definitely needs to be more smart at times, but for those of the ones saying “don’t throw INTs”, you are basically saying “be conservative/average”. Got to live with some of his mistakes, as those “risks” that turn bad, more often than not turn out to be amazing plays Edited September 23, 2023 by BillsFan130 6 1 Quote
HamSandwhich Posted September 23, 2023 Posted September 23, 2023 Live by the sword, die by the sword, let Josh be Josh, he usually survives the sword fight. 3 Quote
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted September 23, 2023 Posted September 23, 2023 53 minutes ago, Chaos said: Daniel Jones was very patient last night taking what the defense gave him. Which was lots of punts. Sometimes winning requires making things happen rather than be patient. Absolutely. Gotta take your shots. Quote
Scott7975 Posted September 23, 2023 Author Posted September 23, 2023 1 hour ago, scuba guy said: Way to many ads I watched the entire thing with no ads at all. Quote
Since1981 Posted September 23, 2023 Posted September 23, 2023 (edited) I always thought Kurt was a JA17 hater. But not here. His “take the some bad with a lot of great” is spot on. his vid break downs always reminds me of how hard and fast QB1 has to think and react to the entire field. It’s amazing actually. Edited September 23, 2023 by Since1981 2 Quote
Buffalo Boy Posted September 23, 2023 Posted September 23, 2023 The Shakir TD still just blows my mind! I assume that’s Brown getting thrown like a rag doll? ( watching on iPhone/can’t see) Josh absolutely slings a dart as he’s jumping backwards… 😵 1 Quote
Solomon Grundy Posted September 23, 2023 Posted September 23, 2023 3 hours ago, Chaos said: Daniel Jones was very patient last night taking what the defense gave him. Which was lots of punts. Sometimes winning requires making things happen rather than be patient. Patient, but inaccurate!! Jones stalled lots of drives last night with inaccurate passes. There were some drops by receivers also, but the Giants were in the game until late. Those drive stoppers because of inaccurate passes hurt them 1 Quote
newcam2012 Posted September 23, 2023 Posted September 23, 2023 (edited) 7 hours ago, Chaos said: Daniel Jones was very patient last night taking what the defense gave him. Which was lots of punts. Sometimes winning requires making things happen rather than be patient. Bad comparison or analogy here. Jones was playing perhaps the best defense in the league on the road, minus the best offensive weapon on the team, and missing a couple of starters on the oline. There was little to no path for him to succeed whether is was being patient or taking risks. Allen vs the Jets and the Raiders are completely different in astronomical ways. Edited September 23, 2023 by newcam2012 1 2 Quote
GunnerBill Posted September 23, 2023 Posted September 23, 2023 7 minutes ago, newcam2012 said: Bad comparison or analogy here. Jones was playing perhaps the best defense in the league on the road, minus the best offensive weapon on the team, and missing a couple of starters on the oline. There was little to no path for him to succeed whether is was being patient or taking risks. Allen vs the Jets and the Raiders are completely different in astronomical ways. And the plays where Josh made his big mistakes against the Jets were not plays where he needed to make something happen. 3 4 1 1 Quote
Buddo Posted September 23, 2023 Posted September 23, 2023 Very enjoyable breakdown. That’s the Josh we want to see every week, ruthlessly efficient, with a few ‘wow’ moments. As Gunner says though, the Jest throws were simply unacceptably bad decisions, and unnecessary. Hero ball at its worst. Warner didn’t say it as such, but if either of the throws to Shakir or Gabe hadn’t ended it as TDs, that would have been ok, because the opportunity was there, whereas against the Jest, it wasn’t. That's where you take the ‘rough with he smooth’ with Josh, because both did end up as TDs due to his extraordinary ability. Quote
stosh64 Posted September 23, 2023 Posted September 23, 2023 9 hours ago, scuba guy said: Way to many ads AdBlock 1 Quote
BananaB Posted September 23, 2023 Posted September 23, 2023 Did he say he thought Josh played good last week despite two throws? But Dan Orlovsky said he was basically a mess. Who should I believe? 🤷🏼♂️ Quote
Thurman#1 Posted September 23, 2023 Posted September 23, 2023 (edited) 10 hours ago, julian said: Yeah hopefully more people come to terms with this. The INTs aren’t the problem, it’s the decision making when the opposition is forcing him to be patient. I believe he’s on the verge of of graduating to another level of greatness. Yes, the murders weren't the problem or the reason I'm in jail. It was my decision-making when I get irritated. Hope you're right about him getting better. Certainly not impossible, but when I see it, I'll believe it. He's already very very damn good. Edited September 23, 2023 by Thurman#1 1 Quote
SoonerBillsFan Posted September 23, 2023 Posted September 23, 2023 Last week's Josh is who we need the rest of his career. Taking what's there AND taking the deep shots when they are there. I said it before, I love the concept of a death by 1000 cuts. Mahomes figured it out, Brady, Rogers, Montana, and even Elway late in his career with Shanahan. Take the 10+ play drives,keep getting 1st downs and it most of the time ends up good. 3 1 Quote
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