Around the NFL Week 3

[Talley56]

I was actually tempted to pick the Colts in an upset over the Ravens if Anthony Richardson had been active.  Still might be tempted to do so.

 

Also, calling it now, Denver/Miami will be closer than expected.  Maybe a one-possession game.  Miami will be looking ahead to Buffalo next week and struggle this week.  Miami still probably wins, but, while many will probably expect a runaway, it may end up somewhere in the 3 to 7-point range.

[newcam2012]

  On 9/22/2023 at 8:03 PM, DapperCam said:

I’ve read that playing through calf problems can lead to Achilles problems. Hope that doesn’t happen to Joe Cool.

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I think it happened to Kevin Durant. 

  On 9/23/2023 at 1:44 AM, Talley56 said:

I was actually tempted to pick the Colts in an upset over the Ravens if Anthony Richardson had been active.  Still might be tempted to do so.

 

Also, calling it now, Denver/Miami will be closer than expected.  Maybe a one-possession game.  Miami will be looking ahead to Buffalo next week and struggle this week.  Miami still probably wins, but, while many will probably expect a runaway, it may end up somewhere in the 3 to 7-point range.

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Denver looks so bad though. They played two teams that aren't on the level of Miami. 

 

I don't see their defense stopping Miami. They have too many weapons and their coach is an olive tree of Shanahan. He's creative. 

 

The Denver D without Fangio is not great either. Oops whose the D coach for the Fins? 

 

I just don't see a close game unless the Fins are sleep walking. I don't think the will be looking ahead. 

[BADOLBILZ]

  On 9/23/2023 at 2:13 AM, newcam2012 said:

I think it happened to Kevin Durant. 

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And Klay Thompson.

 

When I heard Rodgers had injured both of his calves in camp my mind immediately went to him possibly tearing that achilles.    Been thinking the same thing about Burrow.  

[Einstein]

A bit off-topic but probably not worth its own thread. 

 

Is it just my brain playing tricks on me or did NFL players use to show a hate for the other team more-so in the past than they do now?

 

What made me think of this is an interview I saw with Tom Brady. He mentioned that he is not interested in being friends with his opponents. He is there to beat your head in and specifically said, “I don’t know how you can want to crush the competition. But then have dinner with them the next night.”

 

Am I off-base or were more players aligned with Toms philosophy in the 70, 80’s and even 90’s, more so than today where players are hugging each other midfield after the game and exchanging jerseys?

 

[ChronicAndKnuckles]

As long as Lamar is healthy they have a chance. Love or hate him, that guy is a game breaker. Who would’ve thought Lamar and Allen would be the most accomplished QBs of that draft?

[TBBills Fan]

  On 9/22/2023 at 7:07 PM, HappyDays said:

I honestly started this thread just so I could post this unbelievable injury report from the Ravens:

 

For context imagine if James Cook was already out for the year, and we were playing this Sunday's game without Gabe Davis, Dion Dawkins, Mitch Morse, Damien Harris, Micah Hyde, Tre White, and Leonard Floyd. How does this happen to the Ravens every single year?

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Remember that report ranking the different teams by players.  Ravens scored very poorly overall and I believe they also scored poorly in particular the nutrition/health stuff

 

I think that could be part of the reason it seems to happen to them every year

[Special K]

  On 9/23/2023 at 2:18 AM, BADOLBILZ said:

 

And Klay Thompson.

 

When I heard Rodgers had injured both of his calves in camp my mind immediately went to him possibly tearing that achilles.    Been thinking the same thing about Burrow.  

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Sometimes I think when a team says calf injury, it’s code for Achilles.....in the case of Burrow, if you watch the injury he sustained in training camp, the first thing that will come to your mind is “that’s an Achilles injury”....no one touched him, and he fell down as if he was shot in the leg.

 

I remember when Takeo Spikes tore his Achilles, he made the comment that the doctors told him that his Achilles is partially torn, and he can get surgery and be out for the season now, or keep playing until it ruptured completely, and get the surgery then.....and that’s what he decided to do, and it lasted two more weeks before it ruptured. Maybe this is the case with Burrow....who knows.

[TBBills Fan]

  On 9/23/2023 at 4:12 AM, Einstein said:

A bit off-topic but probably not worth its own thread. 

 

Is it just my brain playing tricks on me or did NFL players use to show a hate for the other team more-so in the past than they do now?

 

What made me think of this is an interview I saw with Tom Brady. He mentioned that he is not interested in being friends with his opponents. He is there to beat your head in and specifically said, “I don’t know how you can want to crush the competition. But then have dinner with them the next night.”

 

Am I off-base or were more players aligned with Toms philosophy in the 70, 80’s and even 90’s, more so than today where players are hugging each other midfield after the game and exchanging jerseys?

 

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Marino and Kelly were close during their playing days. 

[Sierra Foothills]

  On 9/22/2023 at 7:07 PM, HappyDays said:

I honestly started this thread just so I could post this unbelievable injury report from the Ravens:

 

For context imagine if James Cook was already out for the year, and we were playing this Sunday's game without Gabe Davis, Dion Dawkins, Mitch Morse, Damien Harris, Micah Hyde, Tre White, and Leonard Floyd. How does this happen to the Ravens every single year?

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Also that Ravens injury report doesn't include their starting running back J.K. Dobbins who was injured in week one and is out for the rest of the season.

 

[strive_for_five_guy]

  On 9/23/2023 at 4:12 AM, Einstein said:

A bit off-topic but probably not worth its own thread. 

 

Is it just my brain playing tricks on me or did NFL players use to show a hate for the other team more-so in the past than they do now?

 

What made me think of this is an interview I saw with Tom Brady. He mentioned that he is not interested in being friends with his opponents. He is there to beat your head in and specifically said, “I don’t know how you can want to crush the competition. But then have dinner with them the next night.”

 

Am I off-base or were more players aligned with Toms philosophy in the 70, 80’s and even 90’s, more so than today where players are hugging each other midfield after the game and exchanging jerseys?

 

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I think your brain is playing tricks on you 😎.

 

Kidding aside, there’s probably some truth to what you’re saying, but the world is so different now versus then too.  The NFL has changed a ton, there’s now social media so that everyone can stay more connected, etc.  But then again, I was just a kid back in the 80s and 90s, so perspective from those

older than I is probably more enlightened.

[Einstein]

  On 9/23/2023 at 12:14 PM, strive_for_five_guy said:

I think your brain is playing tricks on you 😎.

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It wouldn’t be the first time! 😂

[DapperCam]

  On 9/23/2023 at 4:12 AM, Einstein said:

A bit off-topic but probably not worth its own thread. 

 

Is it just my brain playing tricks on me or did NFL players use to show a hate for the other team more-so in the past than they do now?

 

What made me think of this is an interview I saw with Tom Brady. He mentioned that he is not interested in being friends with his opponents. He is there to beat your head in and specifically said, “I don’t know how you can want to crush the competition. But then have dinner with them the next night.”

 

Am I off-base or were more players aligned with Toms philosophy in the 70, 80’s and even 90’s, more so than today where players are hugging each other midfield after the game and exchanging jerseys?

 

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I think you are correct, and I’ve noticed the same thing in the NHL.  My personal theory is that there has been such an increase in money that it’s changed who is in the league and what their motivations are.

 

Mid-low level roster guys in the NFL weren’t paid that much even in the 90s and definitely in the 70s/80s. You had to really enjoy bashing into people back then to stick around. It attracted a certain type of person. Now you can be a middle of the road journeyman linebacker and make generational wealth.

 

I still enjoy it, but it’s just different.

[BADOLBILZ]

  On 9/23/2023 at 5:34 AM, Special K said:

 

Sometimes I think when a team says calf injury, it’s code for Achilles.....in the case of Burrow, if you watch the injury he sustained in training camp, the first thing that will come to your mind is “that’s an Achilles injury”....no one touched him, and he fell down as if he was shot in the leg.

 

I remember when Takeo Spikes tore his Achilles, he made the comment that the doctors told him that his Achilles is partially torn, and he can get surgery and be out for the season now, or keep playing until it ruptured completely, and get the surgery then.....and that’s what he decided to do, and it lasted two more weeks before it ruptured. Maybe this is the case with Burrow....who knows.

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Yeah great reminder about the Takeo Spikes situation.   He was quite forthright about that right away.   You might be right about the NFL using the calf injury as code for the achilles but that would be very misleading.   I think calf strains in general are seen as lesser injuries than hamstrings but to me it's always more concerning.    The Durant/Thompson injuries in the NBA were called calf injuries at first but I don't think that was code.........the NBA really coddles players relative to other sports league's.   I believe that those guys had muscle strains that turned into achilles injuries. 

[maddenboy]

  On 9/22/2023 at 9:44 PM, Fleezoid said:

What are the Ravens doing? Practicing at construction sites? 6 foot/ankle/knee injuries.

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Have the Ravens' players just decided "well shtt.  if Lamar cant tough it out during playoff time, why the hell should i tough it out in week 3?"

 

Not saying Lamar was faking.  

 

Players know.   The Raven's "leader" is not "fearless"

 

(disclosure:  I am anti-Lamar anyway, so this is probably just me piling on)

 

Edited September 23, 2023 by maddenboy

[The Wiz]

  On 9/22/2023 at 7:56 PM, BuffBillsForLife said:

Mike Brown isn't going to let him sit after getting paid, he'll put him out there on a stretcher if he has to.

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I've always wondered what a football version of Scott Sterling would look like.

[Low Positive]

  On 9/23/2023 at 4:12 AM, Einstein said:

A bit off-topic but probably not worth its own thread. 

 

Is it just my brain playing tricks on me or did NFL players use to show a hate for the other team more-so in the past than they do now?

 

What made me think of this is an interview I saw with Tom Brady. He mentioned that he is not interested in being friends with his opponents. He is there to beat your head in and specifically said, “I don’t know how you can want to crush the competition. But then have dinner with them the next night.”

 

Am I off-base or were more players aligned with Toms philosophy in the 70, 80’s and even 90’s, more so than today where players are hugging each other midfield after the game and exchanging jerseys?

 

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I’m not sure Tom Brady was entirely honest. Here’s a video of Payton Manning talking about his relationship with Brady during their playing days.

 

[Einstein]

  On 9/23/2023 at 3:14 PM, FrenchConnection said:

I’m not sure Tom Brady was entirely honest. Here’s a video of Payton Manning talking about his relationship with Brady during their playing days.

 

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Well it’s interesting. In the interview, Tom said that he and Peyton were “friends”. But not in the traditional sense. He said in 23 years of playing in the same league, they went to dinner only twice.

 

He claims that he is not interested in being friends with opponents 🤷🏻‍♂️

 

The entire interview was honestly quite eye opening. It shows just how different Brady is/was. It seems like he took every play and game very personally.

 

  On 9/23/2023 at 2:27 PM, DapperCam said:

I think you are correct, and I’ve noticed the same thing in the NHL.  My personal theory is that there has been such an increase in money that it’s changed who is in the league and what their motivations are.

 

Mid-low level roster guys in the NFL weren’t paid that much even in the 90s and definitely in the 70s/80s. You had to really enjoy bashing into people back then to stick around. It attracted a certain type of person. Now you can be a middle of the road journeyman linebacker and make generational wealth.

 

I still enjoy it, but it’s just different.

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Glad i’m not alone!

[Scott7975]

 

[stuvian]

Niners ripping Giants Daniel Jones

 

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/49ers-players-anonymously-rip-daniel-jones-for-his-play-in-giants-week-3-loss-question-qbs-huge-extension/

[wjag]

  On 9/22/2023 at 7:07 PM, HappyDays said:

I honestly started this thread just so I could post this unbelievable injury report from the Ravens:

 

For context imagine if James Cook was already out for the year, and we were playing this Sunday's game without Gabe Davis, Dion Dawkins, Mitch Morse, Damien Harris, Micah Hyde, Tre White, and Leonard Floyd. How does this happen to the Ravens every single year?

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That Stanley contract has never panned out for the Ravens.