Tommy Callahan Posted September 26, 2023 Posted September 26, 2023 3 minutes ago, wnyguy said: Crazy, like they actually care what the GOP thinks or wants. It's a typical goal post shift. but so corny. 1 1
ChiGoose Posted September 26, 2023 Author Posted September 26, 2023 4 minutes ago, JDHillFan said: Do you believe the dems would be as eager in calling for his resignation if the governor of NJ was a republican? We both know the answer to that so let’s not get too excited over the current display of doing the right thing. No, they probably wouldn't be. The bar for members of Congress doing *anything* good is pretty low. So while it's not some amazing statement that some of them are doing this, it's still better than them not calling for him to resign. 2
Tommy Callahan Posted September 26, 2023 Posted September 26, 2023 1 minute ago, ChiGoose said: Yeah, you're right. Expecting the GOP to be against corruption is pretty laughable. For the third year in a row, Chicago is America's most corrupt city, and Illinois is the third-most corrupt state, according to an annual report from the University of Illinois at Chicago https://news.wttw.com/2022/05/11/three-peat-chicago-ranks-no-1-corruption-report-finds https://fortune.com/2019/02/12/most-corrupt-city-in-america/ Ironic as Chi town is considered one of or the most corrupt cities in the country. And a dem stronghold, nationally. just saying. 1 1
ChiGoose Posted September 26, 2023 Author Posted September 26, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Chris farley said: For the third year in a row, Chicago is America's most corrupt city, and Illinois is the third-most corrupt state, according to an annual report from the University of Illinois at Chicago https://news.wttw.com/2022/05/11/three-peat-chicago-ranks-no-1-corruption-report-finds https://fortune.com/2019/02/12/most-corrupt-city-in-america/ Ironic as Chi town is considered one of or the most corrupt cities in the country. And a dem stronghold, nationally. just saying. Nice off-topic whataboutism. About as valuable a contribution as anyone could expect from you, I suppose. Edited September 26, 2023 by ChiGoose 1
Tommy Callahan Posted September 26, 2023 Posted September 26, 2023 (edited) 10 minutes ago, ChiGoose said: Nice off-topic whataboutism. About as valuable a contribution as anyone could expect from you, I suppose. like asking for GOP to call him out? Would also mention that most of the most corrupt cities in the USA are DEM strongholds. https://www.forbes.com/sites/niallmccarthy/2019/02/15/where-corruption-is-rampant-in-american-cities-infographic/?sh=6dadb96d118b Similar to violent crime, gun violence, and homelessness. Edited September 26, 2023 by Chris farley 1
ChiGoose Posted September 26, 2023 Author Posted September 26, 2023 12 minutes ago, Chris farley said: like asking for GOP to call him out? Would also mention that most of the most corrupt cities in the USA are DEM strongholds. https://www.forbes.com/sites/niallmccarthy/2019/02/15/where-corruption-is-rampant-in-american-cities-infographic/?sh=6dadb96d118b Similar to violent crime, gun violence, and homelessness. Why don't you take this to one of the other circle jerk threads about cities instead of continuing to try to derail this one?
B-Man Posted September 26, 2023 Posted September 26, 2023 Ask yourself, why ? FTA: This egregious rush to judgment is enough to make us miss the days when Democrats reflexively distrusted law enforcement. Schumer and other senators should treat Menendez with the same presumption of innocence that they themselves would wish to be afforded if their own house was raided and revealed to hold several kilos gold bullion of undetermined origin. In a sign of just how warped the Democratic Party's outlook on justice has become, the congresswoman and aggrieved celebrity Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D., N.Y.) preemptively exonerated the feds on charges of racial discrimination against a fellow Hispanic lawmaker, calling the bribery allegations against Menendez "quite clear." We'd need to see some evidence before concluding Joe Biden's Department of Justice is incapable of racial bias. As much as Democrats would love to preside over a justice system based solely on the pronouncements of cable news talking heads, that's just not how things work in America. We are fortunate to live in a country where defendants are presumed innocent until proven otherwise in a free, fair, and speedy trial. No one knows that better than Menendez, who urged his colleagues "to pause and allow for all the facts to be presented" while rebuffing their calls for his resignation. Menendez may even want to consider waiving his right to a speedy trial and letting this process drag out all the way through November 2024. The federal government's first attempt to convict him on corruption charges ended in failure in November 2017. Several weeks later, Franken resigned from the U.S. Senate after several women accused him of sexual misconduct and his Democratic colleagues demanded a sacrifice to appease the nasty women screeching in the streets. Franken now says he "absolutely" regrets his decision, as he should, and even the New Yorker's Jane Mayer went seeking answers from his uncollegial Democratic counterparts. "I couldn’t believe it," Franken told Mayer of Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer. "I asked him for due process and he said no." Will this man walk into the same trap? https://freebeacon.com/columns/stand-strong-bob-menendez/ 1
John from Riverside Posted September 26, 2023 Posted September 26, 2023 (edited) 8 hours ago, B-Man said: What you are not going to mention is that the actual Democrats who's voices count are NOT calling for a resignation. So I will just throw that out there. And you can keep your "democrats police their own" fantasy to yourself. As Menendez Faces Calls to Resign, Some Notable Democrats Don’t Join In FTA: But as the calls for Menendez to leave the Senate seat he’s held for 17 years grow louder, those who have yet to do so are becoming more notable. They include his fellow New Jersey Democrat, Senator Cory Booker, as well as Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer and Senate Majority Whip Dick Durbin. “Bob Menendez has been a dedicated public servant and is always fighting hard for the people of New Jersey,” Schumer wrote in a statement Friday. “He has a right to due process and a fair trial.” Schumer added that Menendez had “rightly” opted to step down from his powerful position as chairman of the Senate Foreign Affairs Committee. https://time.com/6317285/senator-menendez-new-jersey-resign-cory-booker/ and I missed where you posted the White House condemnation, post it again. Oh. . Was there a condemnation of the Republicans that are ***** up this year? From the White House did Donald Trump ever call from one of his idiot ***** ups to resign? Bottom line Democrats called for him to resign Bottom line Republicans did not call for their ***** ups to resign Edited September 26, 2023 by John from Riverside 1
B-Man Posted September 27, 2023 Posted September 27, 2023 41 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: Bottom line Democrats called for him to resign Just NOT the Democrats in charge of the party. but keep spinning your narrative It’s so you. 1
John from Riverside Posted September 27, 2023 Posted September 27, 2023 3 hours ago, B-Man said: Just NOT the Democrats in charge of the party. but keep spinning your narrative It’s so you. You’re so funny Donald Trump was literally getting his buddies out of jail that were indicted and imprisoned Donald Trump is the republican party right here right now It’s not even Biden saying that he should stay. He’s just not saying anything. Meanwhile, Trump is full blown authoritarian in this area. 1
B-Man Posted September 27, 2023 Posted September 27, 2023 Sen. Bob Menendez's congressman son announces House re-election bid days after father's corruption indictment by Danielle Wallce https://www.foxnews.com/politics/sen-bob-menendezs-congressman-son-announces-house-re-election-bid-fathers-corruption-indictment Bob Menendez’s Daughter Took The Weekend Off From Hosting Her MSNBC Show by Nicole Silverio https://dailycaller.com/2023/09/25/alicia-bob-menendez-msnbc-julian-castro/ Bob Menendez Hires Hunter Biden’s Lawyer for Bribery Case by Wendell Husebø https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2023/09/25/bob-menendez-hires-hunter-bidens-lawyer-bribery-case/ . 1
Westside Posted September 27, 2023 Posted September 27, 2023 On 9/26/2023 at 2:30 AM, John from Riverside said: I think there is a misconception hear that really needs to be cleared up We’re not defending this guy If someone has committed a crime, they should go to jail doesn’t matter what side of the aisle they’re on Yes you are. You’re making excuses for him just like you do for joke bribem. You need to stop it’s the”I’m really a independent “ crap and cal yourself what you are. A democrat who is ok with corruption in his party. You’re not fooling anyone. 2
SectionC3 Posted September 27, 2023 Posted September 27, 2023 On 9/26/2023 at 2:30 AM, John from Riverside said: I think there is a misconception hear that really needs to be cleared up We’re not defending this guy If someone has committed a crime, they should go to jail doesn’t matter what side of the aisle they’re on It depends on the crime, but I completely agree with this. The law is to be applied equally and blindly. Wherever the facts take us on Menendez (who probably is a scumbag, based on what little I know of him) is where we land. If that’s the joint, I hope he has a nice stay and a pleasant cell mate.
Tommy Callahan Posted September 28, 2023 Posted September 28, 2023 16 hours ago, Westside said: Yes you are. You’re making excuses for him just like you do for joke bribem. You need to stop it’s the”I’m really a independent “ crap and cal yourself what you are. A democrat who is ok with corruption in his party. You’re not fooling anyone. And the dems will vote in his son like a superstar now.
aristocrat Posted September 28, 2023 Posted September 28, 2023 https://x.com/jonnajarian/status/1707405281964052482?s=46&t=WfwBbfFkRiZZWCMxTdpkOw 1 1
B-Man Posted October 1, 2023 Posted October 1, 2023 Just like many of the uninformed posters here. When it comes to Joe Walsh, he seems to know many things. Unfortunately, most of them are not grounded in reality or common sense. Hey Joe, it cracks us up that you've forgotten about this little thing called due process. It all comes back to politics anymore, and let's be honest if all of the corruption was removed from politics, who would be left? https://twitchy.com/rickrobinson/2023/09/30/joe-walsh-doesnt-seem-to-grasp-innocent-until-proven-guilty-with-menendez-n2387797
ChiGoose Posted October 1, 2023 Author Posted October 1, 2023 1 hour ago, B-Man said: Just like many of the uninformed posters here. When it comes to Joe Walsh, he seems to know many things. Unfortunately, most of them are not grounded in reality or common sense. Hey Joe, it cracks us up that you've forgotten about this little thing called due process. It all comes back to politics anymore, and let's be honest if all of the corruption was removed from politics, who would be left? https://twitchy.com/rickrobinson/2023/09/30/joe-walsh-doesnt-seem-to-grasp-innocent-until-proven-guilty-with-menendez-n2387797 Come on man, you're smarter than this. If you owned a business and one of your employees was indicted for embezzling from you, would you do nothing? Would you say "well, I'll keep allowing them access to the company accounts until they are found guilty"? Or would you restrict their access or suspend them or even fire them?
John from Riverside Posted October 1, 2023 Posted October 1, 2023 On 9/27/2023 at 12:14 PM, Westside said: Yes you are. You’re making excuses for him just like you do for joke bribem. You need to stop it’s the”I’m really an independent “ crap and cal yourself what you are. A democrat who is ok with corruption in his party. You’re not fooling anyone. in what way am I defending this guy? I am plainly stating here that he should be prosecuted for every crime if he gets convicted. That’s the Republican side I don’t do that ***** I On 9/28/2023 at 4:56 AM, Tommy Callahan said: And the dems will vote in his son like a superstar now. You don’t know that the indictment of his father might actually hurt him in democratic circles 1
B-Man Posted October 3, 2023 Posted October 3, 2023 Robert Menendez Broke the Goldilocks Rule of Corruption. The question is whether this level of corruption is now enough for Democrats. California Gov. Gavin Newsom (D) recently suggested a type of Goldilocks rule for corruption. He warned that people in Washington had better be careful if they want to crack down on the Biden family’s influence-peddling. “If that’s the new criteria, there are a lot of folks in a lot of industries — not just in politics — where people have family members and relationships and they’re trying to parlay and get a little influence and benefit in that respect. That’s hardly unique.” It would appear that the question is not corruption, but when a little corruption is “just right.” Plus: “So get ready for politicians to suddenly declare themselves ‘shocked, shocked’ by the allegations against Menendez. These are the same people who made Menendez the head of the Foreign Relations Committee, twice. They gave him the power of leverage with countries where bribery is an accepted practice. It was like making a known arsonist the CEO of the International Paper Corporation. In the end, the problem is not Menendez. It is the array of other politicians who enabled him while dismissing his reputation for corruption. To use Newsom’s words, Menendez is ‘hardly unique’ for cashing in on his position. That is precisely the problem.” https://jonathanturley.org/2023/09/25/robert-menendez-broke-the-goldilocks-rule-of-corruption/ .
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