Doc Posted April 4 Posted April 4 1 hour ago, Tommy Callahan said: You know the orange dude will probably pardon most of them. Just as Carter pardoned the Puerto Rico mass shooters at the capital. Clinton pardoning the capital members. The capital bomber being a mentor and shadow writer for Obama. It will be interesting to see who he pardons. It shouldn't be those who committed actual crimes. 1
Tommy Callahan Posted April 4 Posted April 4 20 minutes ago, Doc said: It will be interesting to see who he pardons. It shouldn't be those who committed actual crimes. Although I agree. The fact it's happened before leads me to believe he would do it. Probably not for the oath keepers though. Their charges were high Carter pardoned the actual capital mass shooters 1
The Frankish Reich Posted April 6 Author Posted April 6 The "J6 Praying Grandma" goes down: https://gazette.com/news/crime/verdict-colorado-springs-area-resident-found-guilty-on-all-charges-in-capitol-breach-trial-in/article_41e439fe-f0fc-11ee-9887-4fc0904851b5.html "she carried God inside the Capitol" The jury actually took its time on this one. Close, but no cigar. And how's this for a batting average: If she had been found not guilty, Lavrenz would have been the first Jan. 6 defendant in a jury trial to be acquitted of federal charges. Two bench trials have been acquitted, and some defendants in jury trials have had charges reduced. Some people believe that irregularities in the 2020 election tabulation process skewed the results. No substantial evidence of election tampering has been found. Of the 64 cases brought forward by former President Donald Trump and his supporters challenging the 2020 results, they prevailed in one lawsuit in Pennsylvania, which did not include enough votes to overturn the result. In the 63 other cases, 20 were dismissed before a hearing on the merits, 14 were voluntarily dismissed and 30 included a hearing on the merits. “Multiple tipsters alerted the FBI” in the days following Jan. 6, 2021, that Lavrenz was among the crowd who entered the Capitol, according to court documents, and FBI agents confirmed her presence on the site by tracing her cell phone and identifying her in video footage. Another beautifully crowd-sourced investigation, identifying her and providing info to the feds. Oh, and another preposterous right-wing Trumpy hero in the making. 2 2
Joe Ferguson forever Posted April 6 Posted April 6 1 hour ago, Doc said: Trump will/should pardon someone like her. Tough to do from prison.... 1 1
Joe Ferguson forever Posted April 6 Posted April 6 5 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said: Trump won't be pardoning anyone. explain. you mean cuz he's going to lose? He's promised to pardon the J6 "hostages".
Tommy Callahan Posted April 6 Posted April 6 16 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said: Trump won't be pardoning anyone. Why not. The last few have set president by pardoning capital bombers and shooters. Seems trespassing by a Gramma would be a no brainer.
Joe Ferguson forever Posted April 6 Posted April 6 2 minutes ago, Tommy Callahan said: Why not. The last few have set president by pardoning capital bombers and shooters. Seems trespassing by a Gramma would be a no brainer. other presidents have set precedent
BillsFanNC Posted April 6 Posted April 6 (edited) 1 hour ago, Tommy Callahan said: Why not. The last few have set president by pardoning capital bombers and shooters. Seems trespassing by a Gramma would be a no brainer. Because he needs to be President to pardon them. I agree that he would pardon them, I just think the odds of him being President again are close to nil. They are close to nil because 2024 will be overtly and blatantly rigged, and if that doesn't work then it's operation Orange Dude assassination. Edited April 6 by BillsFanNC 1 1 1
Tommy Callahan Posted April 6 Posted April 6 11 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: other presidents have set precedent Yes. Carter and the capital mass shooters. Clinton and the capital bombers .
Joe Ferguson forever Posted April 6 Posted April 6 19 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said: Because he needs to be President to pardon them. I agree that he would pardon them, I just think the odds of him being President again are close to nil. based on what?
The Frankish Reich Posted April 6 Author Posted April 6 3 hours ago, Doc said: Trump will/should pardon someone like her. That actually wouldn't bother me. What I want to see from people seeking pardons for J6 is what we always traditionally have wanted to see: some admission that they broke the law, and some expression of contrition. "I'd do it again in a heartbeat" should be a disqualifier. 1
The Frankish Reich Posted August 8 Author Posted August 8 Another mass trespasser, this time trespassing with a sword, "tactical whip," knife, and flashlight taser. https://apnews.com/article/capitol-riot-arrest-kennedy-lindsey-a4d4f054d7b5dde546397d4a4ac03153 Mostly peaceful protest. 1
Starr-Bills Posted September 27 Posted September 27 On 4/4/2024 at 1:26 PM, Doc said: It will be interesting to see who he pardons. It shouldn't be those who committed actual crimes. “Actual crimes” if they were convicted they committed crimes. JFC.
Tiberius Posted October 16 Posted October 16 https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/donald-trump-bears-responsibility-jan-6-attack-jack-smith-argues-new-f-rcna175707 WASHINGTON — A team of federal prosecutors led by special counsel Jack Smith said in a filing Wednesday that Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump bears responsibility for the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol. In a filing responding to Trump's attempt to dismiss the case, Smith's team said it "is incorrect" for Trump's team to assert that the superseding indictment returned against Trump in August does not show that Trump bears responsibility for the events of Jan. 6. Trump, Smith's team said, "willfully caused others" to obstruct the certification of President Joe Biden's 2020 election victory by repeating his false claims of election fraud and giving "false hope" to his supporters who believed that then-Vice President Mike Pence might overturn the election, and by "pressuring" Pence and legislators to accept fraudulent certificates as part of the fake electors scheme. "Those allegations link the defendant’s actions on January 6 directly to his efforts to corruptly obstruct the certification proceeding," Smith's team wrote.
Doc Posted October 16 Posted October 16 5 hours ago, Tiberius said: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/donald-trump-bears-responsibility-jan-6-attack-jack-smith-argues-new-f-rcna175707 WASHINGTON — A team of federal prosecutors led by special counsel Jack Smith said in a filing Wednesday that Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump bears responsibility for the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol. In a filing responding to Trump's attempt to dismiss the case, Smith's team said it "is incorrect" for Trump's team to assert that the superseding indictment returned against Trump in August does not show that Trump bears responsibility for the events of Jan. 6. Trump, Smith's team said, "willfully caused others" to obstruct the certification of President Joe Biden's 2020 election victory by repeating his false claims of election fraud and giving "false hope" to his supporters who believed that then-Vice President Mike Pence might overturn the election, and by "pressuring" Pence and legislators to accept fraudulent certificates as part of the fake electors scheme. "Those allegations link the defendant’s actions on January 6 directly to his efforts to corruptly obstruct the certification proceeding," Smith's team wrote. Poor Jackie. He looks so miserable another defeat may spell the end for him... 1 1
Tiberius Posted October 16 Posted October 16 12 minutes ago, Doc said: Poor Jackie. He looks so miserable another defeat may spell the end for him... Doc, you need to listen to these fellas 1
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