Josh Named AFC Offensive Player of the Week 2 and Week 4

[RiotAct]

4 minutes ago, arcane said:

I don't think Allen threw any picks in that Miami loss. He lost one fumble though

you are correct.

 

https://www.espn.com/nfl/boxscore/_/gameId/401437738

 

42/63, 400 yds, 2 TD, 0 INT.

[rusty shackleford]

8 minutes ago, sunshynman said:

FILM, film, only sissy QBs watch film! The true greats go off instinct and intuition! 

Just like JaMarcus Russell.

[Beast]

5 minutes ago, sunshynman said:

He wasn't reading any social this week. He was watching WS of Poker. Unless you iMessaged him!

I think Diggs read it and told him about it.

[sunshynman]

Just now, Beast said:

I think Diggs read it and told him about it.

I didn't see him doing charades on the sideline!

[Don Otreply]

So Josh is good again?? 

[PBF81]

23 minutes ago, arcane said:

I don't think Allen threw any picks in that Miami loss. He lost one fumble though

 

No, he didn't.  

 

 

[AuntieEm]

56 minutes ago, JDubya76 said:

You take the good, you take the bad, you take ‘em both and there you have thaaaa, I can’t remember.

 

You need a timeout and a trip to the tent to be checked for concussion.  Until you are cleared from concussions protocol you cannot post replies.  It's for your safety.

[PBF81]

24 minutes ago, sunshynman said:

He wasn't reading any social this week. He was watching WS of Poker. Unless you iMessaged him!

 

And his date night with Haley was on Friday, not Saturday night.  

 

 

[The Jokeman]

1 hour ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

What does this mean about next week? Jekyll or Hyde? 

Leave Micah out of this. 

[Chandler#81]

Congratulations again, Josh. Outstanding performance!

[JDubya76]

1 hour ago, AuntieEm said:

 

You need a timeout and a trip to the tent to be checked for concussion.  Until you are cleared from concussions protocol you cannot post replies.  It's for your safety.

It’s a lower back injury, put me back in coach.

[Scott7975]

2 hours ago, Mango said:

 

2.9 Seconds. 21st quickest or 11th slowest last week. Being decisive (and correct) with the ball is something I still wish he would be better at. 

None the less, much much better game. I am glad the sky isn't falling on me this week and we have steadied the QB play a bit. 

 

https://nextgenstats.nfl.com/stats/passing/2023/REG/2#average-time-to-throw

 

Oddly it went up from week one. 2.78 > 2.9

[Gregg]

 

[Mango]

11 minutes ago, Scott7975 said:

 

Oddly it went up from week one. 2.78 > 2.9

He played a great game and made great decisions. I don’t want to take too much away from this week because he was light out.  But as the season progresses I’d like to see a quicker release, hit that back foot and fire.
 

If we can consistently put that stuff together as needed, Josh and the team will be unstoppable.  

[Shaw66]

2 hours ago, julian said:

This is why criticism when he costs his team a win is warranted but why the criticism must be contained to that performance and not used as some example of a larger Josh Allen problem.

 

Sorry, but this just flat out wrong.  Praise of Allen's play in a game helps establish his greatness, but criticism of his play in a game isn't a valid commentary on the bigger picture?   If Josh Allen's poor decision making costs the Bills two games a year, that absolutely is a "larger Josh Allen problem."   Two losses a year essentially would mean that for his team to be as good as it should be, Allen has to single-handedly save two other games.  In other words, those two games when Allen pulls a rabbit out of hat don't count as part of his greatness, because it's really only offsetting two games he lost.  

 

How a player plays every game is part of the analysis of that player's greatness or lack of it.   Ask Bill Buckner.  

Edited September 20, 2023 by Shaw66

[Shaw66]

6 minutes ago, Mango said:

He played a great game and made great decisions. I don’t want to take too much away from this week because he was light out.  But as the season progresses I’d like to see a quicker release, hit that back foot and fire.
 

If we can consistently put that stuff together as needed, Josh and the team will be unstoppable.  

That's an interesting point.   Frankly, I don't expect he'll ever be that kind of QB.   I don't think his body is built for it.    His body gives him other advantages, but natural quickness is something he doesn't have.  

 

Imagine Allen as a wideout.   He can't run routes as well as Davis, because his body won't let him.  And imagining how he would run routes compared to Diggs is actually funny.  

 

Time-to-release is a useful stat, but I think it's principal importance is as a pass-fail test.   If you pass, it doesn't matter so much if you were the fastest or slowest.  

 

That is, I don't think it matters much if Allen is really fast.  I think he brings so much to the game, there's nothing wrong with being just average in some categories. 

 

Against the Raiders, I could imagine that this could be a team that is unstoppable.  If Allen is disciplined like that, the oline protects him like that, the Bills have a lot of weapons.  Three running backs, five receivers.   And Allen.  

[78thealltimegreat]

32 minutes ago, Gregg said:

 

How the heck does Justin Herbert keep finishing so high on these lists? 

[julian]

19 minutes ago, Shaw66 said:

Sorry, but this just flat out wrong.  Praise of Allen's play in a game helps establish his greatness, but criticism of his play in a game isn't a valid commentary on the bigger picture?   If Josh Allen's poor decision making costs the Bills two games a year, that absolutely is a "larger Josh Allen problem."   Two losses a year essentially would mean that for his team to be as good as it should be, Allen has to single-handedly save two other games.  In other words, those two games when Allen pulls a rabbit out of hat don't count as part of his greatness, because it's really only offsetting two games he lost.  

 

How a player plays every game is part of the analysis of that player's greatness or lack of it.   Ask Bill Buckner.  

You go ahead and ride that rollercoaster, luckily for you the highs far outweigh the lows, Which is kinda the point.

 

 Allen will always throw pics and as long as he keeps scoring at a 3:1 TD rate who cares. Not all INTS are created equal and Allen cost his team the opener because he melted down and made poor decisions.

 

 He doesn’t have a history of solely costing this team wins but he does have a full resume of carrying it to victories.

 

[Saxum]

42 minutes ago, Gregg said:

 

 

Any top 10 with Kirk Cousins on it is not worth being on it.

Also no idea who Cody "pay me lots of" Benjamins is.

 

CBS intern?

[Gregg]

Just now, Limeaid said:

 

Any top 10 with Kirk Cousins on it is not worth being on it.

 

I think they go week to week. Burrow has started slow but ranked 27th. That's nuts.