USFL-XFL merge; become UFL w/USFL and XFL divisions

[PromoTheRobot]

18 minutes ago, AuntieEm said:

I wouldn't mind they make some kind of arrangement.  After all if they can help to bring along some promising potential olinemen that alone would be worth adopting.  Will it happen probably not but maybe it should.  They could give parameters of what skills are needed to be a olineman in nfl. They have no ability to get colleges to do so.  But giving some financial stability to a pro league with talent that needs development is a good start.

 

I feel like most folks don't know the financials of both leagues. They are both supported by TV networks. XFL by ESPN, USFL by Fox and NBC. Attendance is what it is, but TV ratings were good enough to keep going. Don't forget gambling revenue too. 

 

Like I said before, over 100 players were brought into NFL camps this year. Even the Bills have (I think) 2 on the PS now.  It's doing what it's supposed to do.

[AuntieEm]

11 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:

 

I feel like most folks don't know the financials of both leagues. They are both supported by TV networks. XFL by ESPN, USFL by Fox and NBC. Attendance is what it is, but TV ratings were good enough to keep going. Don't forget gambling revenue too. 

 

Like I said before, over 100 players were brought into NFL camps this year. Even the Bills have (I think) 2 on the PS now.  It's doing what it's supposed to do.

Just if the nfl wants to give guidelines as to what skills they want they can add some coin in to the coffers of the spring leagues.  And gives players who love the game another option to maybe earn a living playing pro ball.  

[Beast]

2 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said:

 

Read the thread and see how may times someone wants the NFL to have a minor league, which will never happen.

The NFL does have a minor league.

 

The NCAA.

[IronyAbounds]

7 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said:

 

 

I hope they use more XFL rules.

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[Mr. WEO]

1 hour ago, PromoTheRobot said:

 

I feel like most folks don't know the financials of both leagues. They are both supported by TV networks. XFL by ESPN, USFL by Fox and NBC. Attendance is what it is, but TV ratings were good enough to keep going. Don't forget gambling revenue too. 

 

Like I said before, over 100 players were brought into NFL camps this year. Even the Bills have (I think) 2 on the PS now.  It's doing what it's supposed to do.

 

 

Huh?  It's supposed to make money for its investors.  They didn't bankroll it to put a handful of players on some NFL PS's.

 

And what gambling revenue do they receive?

[Mr. WEO]

6 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said:

 

Read the thread and see how may times someone wants the NFL to have a minor league, which will never happen.

 

Every poster can say this every other year when these league form and dissolve.

 

 

The NFL's minor league is the NCAA.  These endless iterations of non NFL "pro" ball will never be that.  They never have been.   

 

The NFL drafts new players, keeps the ones they want, and dumps the rest to the street---or now these temporary leagues.  Rarely, a player bounces back.  How on earth is that a "minor league for the NFL"?  It simply can't be.  Yet we hear the same thing from such posters each time, as though it has not been disproven over and over...

 

 

crazy.

 

 

[Solomon Grundy]

12 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said:

 

 

I hope they use more XFL rules.

CAN YOU SMELL IT!! 

[BobbyC81]

19 hours ago, Charles Romes said:

Bring back NFL Europe with players officially aligned to NFL teams. So many people liked it, it successfully marketed the NFL and laid the groundwork for expansion into Europe. The only reason they stopped is that even though the long term profits were unquestionable the short term profits were not there. 

For me, the Arena Leagues were fun and different.   I used to watch some of the San Jose Sabercats games and even attended one.  Lost interest after awhile and then the team folded.

[Rc2catch]

I really enjoyed the XFL. Continuity is key. They have started the last two times without much of a camp or preparation and play got better as the season went on. Some of the players would certainly do better if they got to be in the same system the following year. There’s plenty of guys with talent to play in the NFL, the extra coaching should be pretty valuable. I did not however watch the USFL but I would guess it’s a similar pool of talent. 
I enjoyed the rule changes, most of all I enjoy hearing the play calls. If you watched the Houston Roughnecks you were treated to offensive coordinator AJ Smith. Unlike the NFL coaches can talk to the entire team in the XFL and communication does not shut off so they can talk all the way to the snap. 
AJ smith could call the play, help line his players up, call out what he seen from the defense and what he wanted them to do if they blitzed etc etc.

I found that to be extremely helpful. Like Mcvay used to do with Goff, only we get to hear it all and the headset doesn’t shut off at 15 seconds or whatever it is. I will definitely watch another season if they continue letting us listen to the coaches during the game. 
 

[PromoTheRobot]

2 hours ago, Rc2catch said:

I really enjoyed the XFL. Continuity is key. They have started the last two times without much of a camp or preparation and play got better as the season went on. Some of the players would certainly do better if they got to be in the same system the following year. There’s plenty of guys with talent to play in the NFL, the extra coaching should be pretty valuable. I did not however watch the USFL but I would guess it’s a similar pool of talent. 
I enjoyed the rule changes, most of all I enjoy hearing the play calls. If you watched the Houston Roughnecks you were treated to offensive coordinator AJ Smith. Unlike the NFL coaches can talk to the entire team in the XFL and communication does not shut off so they can talk all the way to the snap. 
AJ smith could call the play, help line his players up, call out what he seen from the defense and what he wanted them to do if they blitzed etc etc.

I found that to be extremely helpful. Like Mcvay used to do with Goff, only we get to hear it all and the headset doesn’t shut off at 15 seconds or whatever it is. I will definitely watch another season if they continue letting us listen to the coaches during the game. 
 

I also like how ALL officials, even replay people, are miked as well. You hear all the discussions.

[Jerome007]

23 hours ago, Dan Darragh said:

On a scale of 1 to 100, I'm interested in the Bills 100, other NFL games 12-15, college football 2 and USFL/XFL football 0.

I'd be 100, 40, 2 and ...0. Still, I think it's great some of these guys have an outlet to play. And it could become a NFL talent pool as well. 

[Homey D. Clown]

I care about this league about as much as I would the CFL, which is none. If europe gets a league, toss that into the IDGAS pile too.  I'm an NFL enthusiast, follow the league throughout the season ans offseason, that's about it.  It's just not needed.  Baseball spring training is cool, I keep my eye on the yankees during that time, but I'll never care what happens in that league.

[HereComesTheReignAgain]

On 9/19/2023 at 11:28 AM, DeltaDigital said:

Why? Go outside. Get a Haircut, change your oil, Cut your nails, wash your dog... plenty of other way more productive things to do... Can you tell me WHY you watch it? Im genuniely curious... 

When the XFL played in MetLife, not far from where I live, we had season tickets and went to the games.  We had a great time for a fraction of the cost of an NFL game.  Friendly atmosphere, great seats, and decent football.  That's why. 

[reddogblitz]

3 hours ago, HereComesTheReignAgain said:

When the XFL played in MetLife, not far from where I live, we had season tickets and went to the games.  We had a great time for a fraction of the cost of an NFL game.  Friendly atmosphere, great seats, and decent football.  That's why. 

 

I have Seattle Sea Dragons season tickets and have gone to several games.  The Houston game was a really good/fun game.

 

You're right. There are a lot of people there that love football but have been priced out by the NFL.  (There are going to be a lot of fans like this in Buffalo when the new stadium opens.).  XFL gets good attendance because of this.

 

The main thing I hope is they use the XFL schedule of starting a week after the Super Bowl.  That way I'm still in a football mindset and don't have to go cold turkey on football.  Plus it's still cold like football should be played in.  By the time April rolls around I'm on to baseball.  

 

Wouldn't hurt me to see the NFL have some kind of competition.  If it weren't for football, I'd hate the NFL.

 

Go Sea Dragons!!

Edited September 20, 2023 by reddogblitz

[Mr. WEO]

2 hours ago, reddogblitz said:

 

I have Seattle Sea Dragons season tickets and have gone to several games.  The Houston game was a really good/fun game.

 

You're right. There are a lot of people there that love football but have been priced out by the NFL.  (There are going to be a lot of fans like this in Buffalo when the new stadium opens.).  XFL gets good attendance because of this.

 

The main thing I hope is they use the XFL schedule of starting a week after the Super Bowl.  That way I'm still in a football mindset and don't have to go cold turkey on football.  Plus it's still cold like football should be played in.  By the time April rolls around I'm on to baseball.  

 

Wouldn't hurt me to see the NFL have some kind of competition.  If it weren't for football, I'd hate the NFL.

 

Go Sea Dragons!!

 

 

1 team averaged 35k fans.

 

No other team had over 15k, 2 had under 10k---and those are "announced" numbers.  anyone watching could figure out how likely those numbers were (other than in St. Louis).

 

If it weren't for marshmallows, chocolate and graham crackers, I would really hate s'mores!  lol

[Steptide]

Still think the nfl is missing out by not getting involved in these leagues. No pro football league will ever live up to the nfl, but an NFL minor league in the same stadiums and cities as the nfl, I think would do well. 

[DeltaDigital]

4 hours ago, HereComesTheReignAgain said:

When the XFL played in MetLife, not far from where I live, we had season tickets and went to the games.  We had a great time for a fraction of the cost of an NFL game.  Friendly atmosphere, great seats, and decent football.  That's why. 

sure, live events much better. *I* was talking about why would someone waste their time watching on TV

 

[reddogblitz]

1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

 

1 team averaged 35k fans.

 

No other team had over 15k, 2 had under 10k---and those are "announced" numbers.  anyone watching could figure out how likely those numbers were (other than in St. Louis).

 

If it weren't for marshmallows, chocolate and graham crackers, I would really hate s'mores!  lol

 

It's all relative. It was a up start league. You expect them to sell out?

 

they made it through the first season without folding.

 

Well see what happens next year.

 

Have another s'more on me. 🙂

[Breakout Squad]

On 9/19/2023 at 11:27 AM, blitzboy54 said:

 

I watch it

NFL could use another pipeline besides college players. I like the idea of a legitimate AAA league. 

[Doc Brown]

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