Terrel Bernard Appreciation Thread

[AuntieEm]

58 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

I mean, Edmunds had several opportunities to make that exact play over the course of his career here and missed them. Are you really choosing this hill to die on? Edmunds was not a playmaker, he was a scarecrow.

 

I never got the sense that Tremaine loves playing football.  Yes his size and talents allow him to be a fairly decent player but he never seemed to want to up his game.  Seemed more concerned about staying healthy and that isn't a bad thing in many ways but it does make it easier to find a player that gives more in effort and the results of that effort can be equal to what youd get with Edmunds.  

[AuntieEm]

3 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:

This is true, but Bernard has shown the propensity to be a playmaker
 

Something Edmonds was not

And tbh if the Bills are playing to their offensive capabilities  the cover ability is the more important ability and there should be fewer plays needed to be made as our offense just refuses to get of the field as they eat up game time and wrack up a big enough lead that keeps opponents pressing and making the mistakes.  

[Chaos]

5 hours ago, AuntieEm said:

And tbh if the Bills are playing to their offensive capabilities  the cover ability is the more important ability and there should be fewer plays needed to be made as our offense just refuses to get of the field as they eat up game time and wrack up a big enough lead that keeps opponents pressing and making the mistakes.  

Waiting for mistakes definitely can help a team win 10-12 regular season games against inferior opponents.  So far it has not proven to be a viable strategy for a deep playoff run. 

[AuntieEm]

7 minutes ago, Chaos said:

Waiting for mistakes definitely can help a team win 10-12 regular season games against inferior opponents.  So far it has not proven to be a viable strategy for a deep playoff run. 

Well ss your team gets their bread and butter plays down pat and limits mistakes it lessens the pressure and playing well with confidence can overcome talent disparities between 2 teams.  

[Rigotz]

A few nice clips of his run fills here:

 

https://x.com/cover1/status/1704230868594663547?s=46&t=E40WAbu8GsA_XsQdsioRYw

[John from Riverside]

It’s cool that they’re showing the run stops because we know that this guy can blitz we’re not seeing that part of his game yet
 

When you consider that this was one of the biggest fears we had going into the season, things are rounding out quite nicely

 

Would still bring up Kirksey to back him up

[Shaw66]

19 hours ago, AuntieEm said:

 

I never got the sense that Tremaine loves playing football.  Yes his size and talents allow him to be a fairly decent player but he never seemed to want to up his game.  Seemed more concerned about staying healthy and that isn't a bad thing in many ways but it does make it easier to find a player that gives more in effort and the results of that effort can be equal to what youd get with Edmunds.  

I agree. I never got the feeling that he had the passion a lot of guys had. It seemed like he was playing football because his family expected it or something.  

 

Passion drives great play.  

[ColoradoBills]

39 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:

It’s cool that they’re showing the run stops because we know that this guy can blitz we’re not seeing that part of his game yet
 

When you consider that this was one of the biggest fears we had going into the season, things are rounding out quite nicely

 

Would still bring up Kirksey to back him up

 

Kirksey's call up full time would mean Dodson is cut.  Tyrel is good on ST and Christian would have to take snaps there.  Not sure how

his ST play is.  I'd give him more time to get acclimated.  He always can be a PS elevation if a LB gets banged up.

 

If everyone is staying healthy, I'd leave things the way they are right now.  It's a long season.

[HappyDays]

I genuinely don't think Edmunds makes this play. I think he hesitates on the play action and Jacobs has a chance to bounce it outside.

[AuntieEm]

16 hours ago, Chaos said:

Waiting for mistakes definitely can help a team win 10-12 regular season games against inferior opponents.  So far it has not proven to be a viable strategy for a deep playoff run. 

Maybe not but that's the beauty of 17.  He can do more than just dink dunk game manager.  If they need to switch gears in playoffs so be it and having more film on the dink dunking will offer up some of the other play action shots back to the how did he do that from defenses not seeing it much during the req season wins.  And once a lead is established I think trying to match  might be harder with Josh and the boys eating up game clock like they can.  Even the fans that rate mahomes over Allen  have to admit he might have problems e ms keeping up with less time to match Allen's output.

 

 

 

[NickelCity]

4 hours ago, Rigotz said:

A few nice clips of his run fills here:

 

https://x.com/cover1/status/1704230868594663547?s=46&t=E40WAbu8GsA_XsQdsioRYw

 

That second tackle is particularly impressive, knifing through traffic like that.

[John from Riverside]

Bernard has the instincts and the dog in him

 

I worry about him, holding up over the course of the season, but I am definitely rooting for him

[Doc]

8 hours ago, John from Riverside said:

Bernard has the instincts and the dog in him

 

I worry about him, holding up over the course of the season, but I am definitely rooting for him

 

That's where Kirksey comes in.  And is Spector done for the year or on IR-return?

[Beck Water]

13 hours ago, Rigotz said:

A few nice clips of his run fills here:

 

https://x.com/cover1/status/1704230868594663547?s=46&t=E40WAbu8GsA_XsQdsioRYw

 

That is nice.

 

Couple of remarks:

1) The Bills defensive motto seems to be "you'll never tackle alone".  And making those tackles in the backfield or near the LOS helps this philosophy vs. waiting for 5 yds downfield.  Bernard is NOT a "thumper" but he has good technique and he's consistently slowing his targets to the point where the rest of the Bills catch up.

2) this guy is a douche.  I used to get this all the time here when I did more data-rich posts.  Hey, someone took the time to put together data.  "I'd be interested to know the run-pass percentages each faced, do you have those data?" is one thing.  A demand with please in front of it is something else.

https://x.com/Kyle_Wright/status/1704273869316440371?s=20

 

28 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

That's where Kirksey comes in.  And is Spector done for the year or on IR-return?

 

Spector is eligible to return.

Edited September 20, 2023 by Beck Water

[Beck Water]

12 hours ago, ColoradoBills said:

 

Kirksey's call up full time would mean Dodson is cut.  Tyrel is good on ST and Christian would have to take snaps there.  Not sure how

his ST play is.  I'd give him more time to get acclimated.  He always can be a PS elevation if a LB gets banged up.

 

If everyone is staying healthy, I'd leave things the way they are right now.  It's a long season.

 

This.

 

Kirksey last played significant ST in 2017.

[ngbills]

13 hours ago, HappyDays said:

I genuinely don't think Edmunds makes this play. I think he hesitates on the play action and Jacobs has a chance to bounce it outside.

This Edmunds guy must be out of the league if he is not making that play. 

[GunnerBill]

13 hours ago, HappyDays said:

 

 

The Raiders decision to voluntarily downgrade at QB makes no sense unless they are tanking and they don't appear to be. Such a bizarre decision. 

[ngbills]

1 minute ago, GunnerBill said:

 

The Raiders decision to voluntarily downgrade at QB makes no sense unless they are tanking and they don't appear to be. Such a bizarre decision. 

But Garoppolo is a winner. All he does is win yet no one wants him...

[Rigotz]

1 hour ago, GunnerBill said:

 

The Raiders decision to voluntarily downgrade at QB makes no sense unless they are tanking and they don't appear to be. Such a bizarre decision. 

One comment on this, then back to Bernard discussion. 
 

I don’t think it’s fair to say they voluntarily downgraded at QB. They benched Carr at the end of the season because he was imploding and Carr openly expressed his frustration and desire to leave. It was clear as day he had run his course in Oakland after nearly a decade there.

[billsfan89]

1 hour ago, GunnerBill said:

 

The Raiders decision to voluntarily downgrade at QB makes no sense unless they are tanking and they don't appear to be. Such a bizarre decision. 

Carr was on a 40 million dollar a year deal they signed Jimmy G to a deal worth about 22.5 per year. The Raiders felt like Carr at a huge cap number was not going to allow them to win and that Jimmy G plus having some extra 12-17 million in cap space would be better. 
 

I don’t understand it either, they could have worked around Carr’s deal and the Raiders cap is not that bad for them they enter 2024 with 46 million in space and probably 20-30 million in “fat” they can cut to make more space if needed. So carry some extra weight on a QB contract is not going to hamper them much.

 

 Just a poorly run organization