BuffaloBillyG Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 It's almost remarkable how much better the offense flowed once Allen went under center. Mixed with actually incorporating the RBs and using some play action this offense could be deadly. I think that had a huge hand in helping slow the Raider pass rush, ultimately making Josh feel more comfortable. Hopefully, they keep this philosophy up. Commanders next week have a good pass rush as well. It was a little frustrating to see Dorsey move away from it when we would get in the red zone. My thought is down there they want to run the plays Josh is more comfortable with and if that's the case I get that thought. But that said, giant step forward for the offense. While there may have been a few times I didn't like a play called, for the second strait week I feel like Dorsey had a really solid gameplan. 5 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 I thought the same thing, but i’m conflicted how much of that is due to him being under center and how much of it is due to playing a much easier defense. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted September 17, 2023 Author Share Posted September 17, 2023 1 minute ago, Einstein said: I thought the same thing, but i’m conflicted how much of that is due to him being under center and how much of it is due to playing a much easier defense. Fair point. However, with more and more teams loading up to take away the deep ball getting the run game moving and using play action is paramount to getting the offense moving these days. That will go against "most" defenses that are selling out to stop Allen long. As long as they have to respect the run game it will help keep the defense honest IMO. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 20 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said: It's almost remarkable how much better the offense flowed once Allen went under center. Mixed with actually incorporating the RBs and using some play action this offense could be deadly. I think that had a huge hand in helping slow the Raider pass rush, ultimately making Josh feel more comfortable. Hopefully, they keep this philosophy up. Commanders next week have a good pass rush as well. It was a little frustrating to see Dorsey move away from it when we would get in the red zone. My thought is down there they want to run the plays Josh is more comfortable with and if that's the case I get that thought. But that said, giant step forward for the offense. While there may have been a few times I didn't like a play called, for the second strait week I feel like Dorsey had a really solid gameplan. Maybe Dorsey finally got his head out of his backside 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted September 17, 2023 Author Share Posted September 17, 2023 Just now, Alphadawg7 said: Maybe Dorsey finally got his head out of his backside Like quite a few had said before the season, hopefully lessons were learned last year and year 2 would have improvement. Through 8 quarters of ball, it would seem an argument could be had that he has. Let's hope it continues! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 The Bills have to mix it up and go under center a lot more. You can still mix it up but they seem much better suited to play that way. Teams can play the same D with the drop hand off and actually can spot Allen much better in the gun. Going under center forces the D to move up and react quicker which opens the play action. Plus build a bunch of tape playing under center so come playoffs teams need to game plan more. This gun offense has gotten way too predictable. 1 hour ago, Alphadawg7 said: Maybe Dorsey finally got his head out of his backside Yes and no. He could not resist going back to the gun especially in the red zone. The td’s to Davis and Shakir could have both gone badly and this game looks different. Lots of work to do still to play vs a team better than the raiders. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 Thought the line played well too, but again not facing Jets D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 1 hour ago, Alphadawg7 said: Maybe Dorsey finally got his head out of his backside Or, perhaps, McDermott finally took control and told Josh to start doing what Dorsey was telling him to do. 4 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CEN-CAL17 Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 I’d like to see the analytics of run percentages when Josh is under center and not under center…. example Bills run the ball 70% of the time Josh is under center, run the ball 30% of the time in shotgun. Meaning think run under center, think pass (react to run) if in shotgun. Those odds would be good. Anyone know the numbers???! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 Handing off from under center gives the RB some movement toward the LOS v shotgun hand offs. I seldom use the word hate, but I come close when they consistently do the delayed shotgun hand off. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 Allen was a surgical assassin today. By all accounts those same underneath throws were there last week. This was Allen playing better and Dorsey calling more run plays. Love it! When Allen still needed to be a superstar he made those plays as well. On to Washington! 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 The upgrade at guard was noticeable. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 Allen had his fire and swag back. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jethro_tull Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 The fact that the QB does not have to look at the ball to receive it under center allows him to keep his eyes on the field from the start of the play. I wish they would use it more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 1 hour ago, Gugny said: Or, perhaps, McDermott finally took control and told Josh to start doing what Dorsey was telling him to do. @chaos - so you think Dorsey’s game plan has been to have Allen bail the pocket too early and hold onto the ball too long waiting for an ESPN highlight pass?? That don’t seem right. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franco_92 Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 2 hours ago, Einstein said: I thought the same thing, but i’m conflicted how much of that is due to him being under center and how much of it is due to playing a much easier defense. Even in NY Allen's splits were much better when under center. It's a thing, starting in shotgun gives him a wonky rhythm on the play sometimes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 Like I said all during the week that Jets defense is the best one we’re going to face all year The Raiders are not even a bad team they’re just not an elite one It’s too bad they have such a liability, at quarterback Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 More Kincaid!!!’ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 1 hour ago, Royale with Cheese said: Allen had his fire and swag back. It started on the second possession, after the INT, and it never went away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted September 18, 2023 Author Share Posted September 18, 2023 10 hours ago, John from Riverside said: Like I said all during the week that Jets defense is the best one we’re going to face all year The Raiders are not even a bad team they’re just not an elite one It’s too bad they have such a liability, at quarterback Agree. They are a great defense, however it is a beatable defense. Allen showed in the first half last weekend. Dak continued that this week. Short surgical passing. Mix in the run game. Try something downfield if there's single coverage. The difference between Josh and Dal's games against the Jet defense is Josh went away from it later in the game and Dak stayed patient. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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