Q Williams fined 2x for unnecessary roughness.

[AlfaBill]

In European football, if a player gets flagged twice in a match they miss the next game. The NFL should look at something like this. A player with multiple calls or missed calls that turn into fines should be suspended for a game. Watch the tide turn. 

[John from Riverside]

So my eyes did not deceived me, and the Jets were taking extra shots at Josh Allen, whenever he was on the turf
 

That is exactly what I saw

[without a drought]

10 hours ago, EmotionallyUnstable said:

These fines are useless. 
 

I’ve calculated this out before, and it’s like the equivalent to a parking ticket for the average American. 
 

Annoying, but not nearly enough to deter future behavior, especially when you’re considering the larger amounts of money. 

That is only somewhat true, a rookie on a minimum salary deal who gets fined for roughing the passer would be the equivalent of almost $1,700 for someone making $75,000 a year. That's a big parking ticket.

 

A player would need to be making over $20 mil to get it down to the the $60 or parking ticket range.

[Blackbeard]

Refs need to be fined 

[Cray51]

Allen is a big boy, so teams (especially the Jets) take liberties

 

as we saw with Newton, refs don’t call the book the same with big athletic QBs.  If we had Kyle Allen taking helmet to helmet shots and being dove on top of, I bet my life a flag would have been throw 

[Doc]

1 hour ago, Blackbeard said:

Refs need to be fined 

 

Or take a head shot or two.

 

12 hours ago, sunshynman said:

Why are the refs not calling this BS. If NFL really cared about late and unr hits, they would put a ref in the booth or a call from NY to start calling these penalties. These fines mean nothing to the players. Suspend them for a game, take away a game check, make the team suffer. Then it will stop. 
 

Allen could have easily gotten concussed on the late hit. 
 

https://operations.nfl.com/inside-football-ops/rules-enforcement/gameday-accountability/

 

He probably was...

Edited September 17, 2023 by Doc

[sunshynman]

10 hours ago, MJS said:

Do we have videos of those plays? Just curious.

There are. I saw post with them. 

[Breakout Squad]

I love Josh but he brings this upon himself. If a 6’5” QB goes up the middle standing up then he might get jacked up. 

[Livinginthepast]

12 hours ago, Simon said:

Am I reading that right that Milano was fined 10K for taunting?

Injuring a player possibly permanently is less of a fine. But that trash talk! are there degrees of offensiveness? Did he say something about his mother? 

[Augie]

32 minutes ago, Breakout Squad said:

I love Josh but he brings this upon himself. If a 6’5” QB goes up the middle standing up then he might get jacked up. 

 

It’s true that some of it is self-inflicted. It is also true that they were jumping on top of him late, well after the play was over. Dumb is on us, dirty is on the Jets. If they want to call Milano for a weak taunt, you have to call launching a 340 pound man onto a QB’s head after the play a penalty. 

 

 

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Edited September 17, 2023 by Augie

[sunshynman]

10 minutes ago, Breakout Squad said:

I love Josh but he brings this upon himself. If a 6’5” QB goes up the middle standing up then he might get jacked up. 

That doesn’t detract from them not calling obvious penalties! That’s why Cam’s career was cut short!

[LABILLBACKER]

The shield is incredibly inconsistent and Goodell talks out of both sides of his mouth.  Unless the play is beyond egregious,  the refs will just let it go depending on that games script. 

[JoPoy88]

12 hours ago, sunshynman said:

Why are the refs not calling this BS. If NFL really cared about late and unr hits, they would put a ref in the booth or a call from NY to start calling these penalties. These fines mean nothing to the players. Suspend them for a game, take away a game check, make the team suffer. Then it will stop. 
 

Allen could have easily gotten concussed on the late hit. 
 

https://operations.nfl.com/inside-football-ops/rules-enforcement/gameday-accountability/

Been like this for a while now. For whatever reason the flag rates on these plays that eventually result in fines is pretty low.

[Augie]

19 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said:

The shield is incredibly inconsistent and Goodell talks out of both sides of his mouth.  Unless the play is beyond egregious,  the refs will just let it go depending on that games script. 

 

I thought the script writers were on strike! Who is writing these scripts? Scabs?   😱

 

 

But seriously…..who is writing a “script” here? It’s a game, and stuff happens. It’s not predetermined. Am I misunderstanding something? 

[buffaloboyinATL]

13 hours ago, sunshynman said:

Why are the refs not calling this BS. If NFL really cared about late and unr hits, they would put a ref in the booth or a call from NY to start calling these penalties. These fines mean nothing to the players. Suspend them for a game, take away a game check, make the team suffer. Then it will stop. 
 

Allen could have easily gotten concussed on the late hit. 
 

https://operations.nfl.com/inside-football-ops/rules-enforcement/gameday-accountability/

Just for clarification, since the Jets have 2 Q Williams’, it was Quincy Williams who got the fines, not Quinnen Williams.  

[Motorin']

11 hours ago, AlfaBill said:

In European football, if a player gets flagged twice in a match they miss the next game. The NFL should look at something like this. A player with multiple calls or missed calls that turn into fines should be suspended for a game. Watch the tide turn. 

 

They already do. Not all fouls get a yellow card in soccer. Only dangerous plays.

 

The NFL already ejects people for two of certain type of penalties. I could see them expanding that to two of any 15 yard personal fouls. 

[Breakout Squad]

1 hour ago, sunshynman said:

That doesn’t detract from them not calling obvious penalties! That’s why Cam’s career was cut short!

Sure but if he’s running with the ball he doesn’t get extra protection is all I’m saying. 

[Low Positive]

Just now, Breakout Squad said:

Sure but if he’s running with the ball he doesn’t get extra protection is all I’m saying. 

And Cam's career ended for all intents and purposes with a shoulder injury suffered trying to make a tackle after an INT. 

[sunshynman]

2 minutes ago, FrenchConnection said:

And Cam's career ended for all intents and purposes with a shoulder injury suffered trying to make a tackle after an INT. 

Ok. But he took many hits that refs let go because he was a big man. It’s wrong.