AlfaBill Posted September 17, 2023 Posted September 17, 2023 In European football, if a player gets flagged twice in a match they miss the next game. The NFL should look at something like this. A player with multiple calls or missed calls that turn into fines should be suspended for a game. Watch the tide turn. 1 1 Quote
John from Riverside Posted September 17, 2023 Posted September 17, 2023 So my eyes did not deceived me, and the Jets were taking extra shots at Josh Allen, whenever he was on the turf That is exactly what I saw 3 Quote
without a drought Posted September 17, 2023 Posted September 17, 2023 On 9/17/2023 at 3:02 AM, EmotionallyUnstable said: These fines are useless. I’ve calculated this out before, and it’s like the equivalent to a parking ticket for the average American. Annoying, but not nearly enough to deter future behavior, especially when you’re considering the larger amounts of money. Expand That is only somewhat true, a rookie on a minimum salary deal who gets fined for roughing the passer would be the equivalent of almost $1,700 for someone making $75,000 a year. That's a big parking ticket. A player would need to be making over $20 mil to get it down to the the $60 or parking ticket range. Quote
Cray51 Posted September 17, 2023 Posted September 17, 2023 Allen is a big boy, so teams (especially the Jets) take liberties as we saw with Newton, refs don’t call the book the same with big athletic QBs. If we had Kyle Allen taking helmet to helmet shots and being dove on top of, I bet my life a flag would have been throw 1 Quote
Doc Posted September 17, 2023 Posted September 17, 2023 (edited) On 9/17/2023 at 1:20 PM, Blackbeard said: Refs need to be fined Expand Or take a head shot or two. On 9/17/2023 at 2:20 AM, sunshynman said: Why are the refs not calling this BS. If NFL really cared about late and unr hits, they would put a ref in the booth or a call from NY to start calling these penalties. These fines mean nothing to the players. Suspend them for a game, take away a game check, make the team suffer. Then it will stop. Allen could have easily gotten concussed on the late hit. https://operations.nfl.com/inside-football-ops/rules-enforcement/gameday-accountability/ Expand He probably was... Edited September 17, 2023 by Doc 1 Quote
sunshynman Posted September 17, 2023 Author Posted September 17, 2023 On 9/17/2023 at 4:00 AM, MJS said: Do we have videos of those plays? Just curious. Expand There are. I saw post with them. Quote
Breakout Squad Posted September 17, 2023 Posted September 17, 2023 I love Josh but he brings this upon himself. If a 6’5” QB goes up the middle standing up then he might get jacked up. 1 Quote
Livinginthepast Posted September 17, 2023 Posted September 17, 2023 On 9/17/2023 at 2:28 AM, Simon said: Am I reading that right that Milano was fined 10K for taunting? Expand Injuring a player possibly permanently is less of a fine. But that trash talk! are there degrees of offensiveness? Did he say something about his mother? 2 Quote
Augie Posted September 17, 2023 Posted September 17, 2023 (edited) On 9/17/2023 at 2:45 PM, Breakout Squad said: I love Josh but he brings this upon himself. If a 6’5” QB goes up the middle standing up then he might get jacked up. Expand It’s true that some of it is self-inflicted. It is also true that they were jumping on top of him late, well after the play was over. Dumb is on us, dirty is on the Jets. If they want to call Milano for a weak taunt, you have to call launching a 340 pound man onto a QB’s head after the play a penalty. . Edited September 17, 2023 by Augie 2 1 2 Quote
sunshynman Posted September 17, 2023 Author Posted September 17, 2023 On 9/17/2023 at 2:45 PM, Breakout Squad said: I love Josh but he brings this upon himself. If a 6’5” QB goes up the middle standing up then he might get jacked up. Expand That doesn’t detract from them not calling obvious penalties! That’s why Cam’s career was cut short! Quote
LABILLBACKER Posted September 17, 2023 Posted September 17, 2023 The shield is incredibly inconsistent and Goodell talks out of both sides of his mouth. Unless the play is beyond egregious, the refs will just let it go depending on that games script. 1 Quote
JoPoy88 Posted September 17, 2023 Posted September 17, 2023 On 9/17/2023 at 2:20 AM, sunshynman said: Why are the refs not calling this BS. If NFL really cared about late and unr hits, they would put a ref in the booth or a call from NY to start calling these penalties. These fines mean nothing to the players. Suspend them for a game, take away a game check, make the team suffer. Then it will stop. Allen could have easily gotten concussed on the late hit. https://operations.nfl.com/inside-football-ops/rules-enforcement/gameday-accountability/ Expand Been like this for a while now. For whatever reason the flag rates on these plays that eventually result in fines is pretty low. 1 Quote
Augie Posted September 17, 2023 Posted September 17, 2023 On 9/17/2023 at 2:59 PM, LABILLBACKER said: The shield is incredibly inconsistent and Goodell talks out of both sides of his mouth. Unless the play is beyond egregious, the refs will just let it go depending on that games script. Expand I thought the script writers were on strike! Who is writing these scripts? Scabs? 😱 But seriously…..who is writing a “script” here? It’s a game, and stuff happens. It’s not predetermined. Am I misunderstanding something? 1 Quote
buffaloboyinATL Posted September 17, 2023 Posted September 17, 2023 On 9/17/2023 at 2:20 AM, sunshynman said: Why are the refs not calling this BS. If NFL really cared about late and unr hits, they would put a ref in the booth or a call from NY to start calling these penalties. These fines mean nothing to the players. Suspend them for a game, take away a game check, make the team suffer. Then it will stop. Allen could have easily gotten concussed on the late hit. https://operations.nfl.com/inside-football-ops/rules-enforcement/gameday-accountability/ Expand Just for clarification, since the Jets have 2 Q Williams’, it was Quincy Williams who got the fines, not Quinnen Williams. 1 Quote
Motorin' Posted September 17, 2023 Posted September 17, 2023 On 9/17/2023 at 4:20 AM, AlfaBill said: In European football, if a player gets flagged twice in a match they miss the next game. The NFL should look at something like this. A player with multiple calls or missed calls that turn into fines should be suspended for a game. Watch the tide turn. Expand They already do. Not all fouls get a yellow card in soccer. Only dangerous plays. The NFL already ejects people for two of certain type of penalties. I could see them expanding that to two of any 15 yard personal fouls. 1 Quote
Breakout Squad Posted September 17, 2023 Posted September 17, 2023 On 9/17/2023 at 2:56 PM, sunshynman said: That doesn’t detract from them not calling obvious penalties! That’s why Cam’s career was cut short! Expand Sure but if he’s running with the ball he doesn’t get extra protection is all I’m saying. 1 Quote
Low Positive Posted September 17, 2023 Posted September 17, 2023 On 9/17/2023 at 4:14 PM, Breakout Squad said: Sure but if he’s running with the ball he doesn’t get extra protection is all I’m saying. Expand And Cam's career ended for all intents and purposes with a shoulder injury suffered trying to make a tackle after an INT. 2 Quote
sunshynman Posted September 17, 2023 Author Posted September 17, 2023 On 9/17/2023 at 4:15 PM, FrenchConnection said: And Cam's career ended for all intents and purposes with a shoulder injury suffered trying to make a tackle after an INT. Expand Ok. But he took many hits that refs let go because he was a big man. It’s wrong. Quote
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