Trevor Lawrence or Josh Allen? Dual threat or pocket passer?

[Mr. WEO]

First Josh or McD, now Josh or.....Lawrence???

 

Come on!  This guy is Carson Wentz.  He's 2018 Watson.  

[RobbRiddick]

Next time Law has a bad game and Allen looks great, Allen will be seen as the better QB. Then Allen will have a stinker and Lawrence will look great and people will think Trevor is better, then the next week... you get the idea

[prissythecat]

1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said:

First Josh or McD, now Josh or.....Lawrence???

 

Come on!  This guy is Carson Wentz.  He's 2018 Watson.  

 

speaking of Wentz.  He’s available .  Can probably get him cheap.

[stevestojan]

17 hours ago, Einstein said:

Ride or die with Allen.

 

 

This. And only this. 
 

Do you think Bengals fans are asking “Burrow or Lawrence” after Joey threw for like 8 total feet last week? 

[snamsnoops]

everyone just needs to R-E-L-A-X.... JA17 is fine.... 1 week, let's see how this Sunday goes...... Things may look different.

[Billzgobowlin]

Only one in the league I would take above Allen currently is Mahomes.  That being said he needs to focus on improving himself more, unless last week was a fluke he has regressed this season drastically.  (even without the INTs)

[PatsFanNH]

On 9/15/2023 at 6:35 PM, ChronicAndKnuckles said:

Put all of your feelings aside. Pretend you’re a GM and you have to build a football team from scratch. Who do you choose to become the leader and face of your franchise? Do you go for the unpredictable generational phenom or the pocket passer w/ longevity? 
 

Trevor Lawrence is really catching on and by the end of this season I think he will be firmly in the top 5 supplanting the overrated Justin Herbert. He’s not as fast or strong as Josh, but I feel his athleticism is an underrated aspect of his game. He is more than capable of picking up a tough 1st down w/ his legs. Although he threw 4 picks in the Wild Card, he’s usually been great at protecting the ball and letting his playmakers shine. A lot of people compared him to Andrew Luck coming out of the draft and that’s exactly who I think he’ll turn out to be. Andrew Luck w/ a much longer career plus a ring. 
 

Allen’s stock took a 2nd hit last Sunday dropping his last 2 games and many in the media and this board are wondering if the league has finally figured him out. There’s a lot of speculation that his style of play is just not sustainable, too reckless, and he will hit a wall like Cam Newton did. He continues to throw costly interceptions and take unnecessary hits. Regardless, he is 52-25 in the regular season and has proven he can win games solely on his own. John Brown, Cole Beasley, and Diggs have all posted career years w/ Allen under center so he does make the players around him better. 

 

If I am building a team I still would pick Allen because when he is fully locked in, he is the best QB in the league bar none. Josh plays off emotion and instincts. He needs to a better job of harnessing his strengths and taking chances only when needed. Talent is is no longer an issue. Diggs, Kincaid, Knox, and Davis are all very solid pieces. 

Ok, doing this in a fair way, I would take Lawrence. Now let me explain if they are both rookies and being drafted in the same year, Lawrence was NFL ready and considered a generational talent at QB while Allen was considered a project. I don’t think any GM takes a rookie Allen over a rookie Lawrence. 
 

Before you say “Allen of now to a Lawrence of now” that just isn’t fair! Lawrence is just entering year 3 and Allen is in Year 7?  So the only fair comparison would be both coming out as rookies.  As rookies it’s a no brainer and that’s not a knock on Allen. 

[Straight Hucklebuck]

20 hours ago, stevestojan said:

This. And only this. 
 

Do you think Bengals fans are asking “Burrow or Lawrence” after Joey threw for like 8 total feet last week? 

Old Princess Joe?

[The 9 Isles]

Thanks Madden. 

[Airseven]

Lawrence.

 

Allen’s style of play is too erratic.

[Lfod]

I just want a run game.

[jester43]

On 9/15/2023 at 6:35 PM, ChronicAndKnuckles said:

Put all of your feelings aside. Pretend you’re a GM and you have to build a football team from scratch. Who do you choose to become the leader and face of your franchise? Do you go for the unpredictable generational phenom or the pocket passer w/ longevity? 
 

Trevor Lawrence is really catching on and by the end of this season I think he will be firmly in the top 5 supplanting the overrated Justin Herbert. He’s not as fast or strong as Josh, but I feel his athleticism is an underrated aspect of his game. He is more than capable of picking up a tough 1st down w/ his legs. Although he threw 4 picks in the Wild Card, he’s usually been great at protecting the ball and letting his playmakers shine. A lot of people compared him to Andrew Luck coming out of the draft and that’s exactly who I think he’ll turn out to be. Andrew Luck w/ a much longer career plus a ring. 
 

Allen’s stock took a 2nd hit last Sunday dropping his last 2 games and many in the media and this board are wondering if the league has finally figured him out. There’s a lot of speculation that his style of play is just not sustainable, too reckless, and he will hit a wall like Cam Newton did. He continues to throw costly interceptions and take unnecessary hits. Regardless, he is 52-25 in the regular season and has proven he can win games solely on his own. John Brown, Cole Beasley, and Diggs have all posted career years w/ Allen under center so he does make the players around him better. 

 

If I am building a team I still would pick Allen because when he is fully locked in, he is the best QB in the league bar none. Josh plays off emotion and instincts. He needs to a better job of harnessing his strengths and taking chances only when needed. Talent is is no longer an issue. Diggs, Kincaid, Knox, and Davis are all very solid pieces. 

i am not a lawrence fan AT ALL but i want a guy with enough brains between his ears not to kill us.  i'll let the mafia decide which guy that is.

[CincyBillsFan]

25 minutes ago, jester43 said:

i am not a lawrence fan AT ALL but i want a guy with enough brains between his ears not to kill us.  i'll let the mafia decide which guy that is.

A bad game and OT loss on the road is a far cry from killing the Bills. Over the last 3 seasons (2020 - 2022) the Bills have gone 37 - 12 in the regular season winning 3 straight AFC East titles.  In the playoffs the Bills have gone 4 - 3 and Allen did not kill them in any of those games and in fact played great in several of them.

 

 

[Nelius]

5 hours ago, Airseven said:

Lawrence.

 

Allen’s style of play is too erratic.

This is great

[Alphadawg7]

Lmao…Allen and it’s not close

[Big Blitz]

Lol….9 points at home v KC. 

 

Lock this thread up 

[KingBoots8]

5 hours ago, Airseven said:

Lawrence.

 

Allen’s style of play is too erratic.

Surprise, surprise. 
 

..:no really, I’m surprised you didn’t criticize Allen more in your post. Kinda hard after he wins and Lawrence loses I guess.

[Mr. WEO]

Lol Lawrence is a bum

[Virgil]

This aged well 

[ToGoGo]

Idiots on this board.