Was Allen concussed? Speculation with some circumstantial evidence.

[Rich Stadium Original]

On 9/11/2023 at 10:40 PM, Rich Stadium Original said:

Serious question..on one of the interceptions with Williams coming up the middle..Allen looked to to me to hit his head on the turf, and when he was helped up he had those concussion eyes..surprised he wasn't checked...wonder if he played a good quantity of the game with a concussion?

 

I posted this right after the game, but it kind of got buried in a post game thread. Play was actually after one of the interceptions.  Will have to look to see if I can find a clip or screen shot.

[TheBrownBear]

It would explain the insanity of hurdling for the sticks from 8 yards away

[BullBuchanan]

14 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

have you ever liked one Bills player?  

Tons of them. I'm a big fan of Allen, Diggs, Milano, Poyer, Hyde, Bates,Benford, Shakir and others.

You?

[Einstein]

1 hour ago, teef said:

oh my god.

 

What’s up teef?

[teef]

Just now, Einstein said:

 

What’s up teef?

oh...just busy with life stuff.  how about you.  this was a interesting thread btw...the oh my god wasn't towards you.

[PBF81]

7 hours ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said:

He looked utterly overwhelmed the entire game.

 

I guess that could have been it, but it more looked like a "where am I" look.  

 

 

[buffaloboyinATL]

17 hours ago, Einstein said:

With 4:55 remaining in the 3rd quarter, Josh Allen stumbled forward and while on the ground, was hit in the back of the head by a very large and very heavy Quinnen Williams. The video of the hit is in the tweet below.

 

Circumstantial evidence:

 

1) In the video, you can see Quinnen Williams land on Allens head area. Once Quinnen rolls away, Allen raises his head for a moment, and then lowers his head back down to the turf (perhaps trying to compose himself) before getting back up. 

2) The very next play, Allen threw an interception into double coverage.

 

3) Prior to this hit, Allen was 21 of 25, 1 TD, 1 INT (84% passing)

 

4) After this hit, Allen went 8 of 16, 0 TD, 2 INT, 1 Lost Fumble (50% passing)

 

Or it could also simply be coincidence. That is also possible.

 

The video:

 

 

 

Mods/@Simon - If this post is better suited within another thread, please feel free to merge. I just thought it was an interesting topic. 

Actually, now that you mention it, I saw this in real time and thought that it might be a concussion. That would definitely explain the poor decision making.  Very possible...

[Goin Breakdown]

Why was there no flag on Williams when josh was already down. That guy is a POS and it seems like he's always doing something shady from grabbing junk to garbage like this. 
 

 

[buffaloboyinATL]

15 hours ago, Buffalo619 said:

No more excuses. He needs to perform like a franchise qb.  

A concussion is not an excuse, it's an explaination. That being said, he needs to work harder at keeping himself out of harms way, so that he doesn't take hits like this. The recklessness is on him.

[Alphadawg7]

36 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said:

Tons of them. I'm a big fan of Allen, Diggs, Milano, Poyer, Hyde, Bates,Benford, Shakir and others.

You?

You just don’t seem to like them much when you post about them in shout box during games or threads.  All good, Go Bills

Edited September 14, 2023 by Alphadawg7

[Captain Caveman]

14 hours ago, finn said:

Didn't the same thing happen in the Green Bay game last year? 

Maybe - 
I was thinking also of the Vikings game

[gobills404]

I think he got concussed gain at the Jets last year too. And in the 2nd half of the packers game. And the 2nd half of the Vikings game. And in the playoffs last year. And against the Jags and Falcons in 2021. 

[BillsUberAlles]

13 hours ago, JohnNord said:

This is pretty much BS.  After what happened with Tua the league, team medical staff and players are likely on high alert for symptoms.  The fact that no one spotted any symptoms on the field, on the sidelines, or in the building on the days following the game is significant.  

 

Well, surprisingly or unsurprisingly the quality of the job they do is highly dependent on the people they have that day who are doing that job and varies greatly across the NFL.

[Rich Stadium Original]

https://www.nfl.com/videos/whitehead-picks-off-allen-again-on-intended-deep-shot-to-diggs

 

This is the play..clearly whacks the back of his head on the turf after the hit..one of the additional replays that I cant find had him getting up, and eyes were pretty glassy.

[gobills404]

14 hours ago, Einstein said:

 

It was speculated.

I believe there is a good chance that Allen has several undocumented concussions.

 

 

 

 

We know for a fact he was concussed on this play, and he didn’t become a turnover machine afterwards 🤷‍♂️

 

[Real McClappy]

15 minutes ago, buffaloboyinATL said:

A concussion is not an excuse, it's an explaination. That being said, he needs to work harder at keeping himself out of harms way, so that he doesn't take hits like this. The recklessness is on him.

Reckless that some 300+ lb dude comes from behind you while on your belly (down) and slams into you head? Isn't that more reckless on Quinnen Williams? Isn't that the job of the Refs to protect QB or in this case Josh Allen?

 

 

Edited September 14, 2023 by Real McNasty

[BuffaloBillyG]

I believe everytime Allen has had a bad game he was concussed. Only logical explanation.

[BullBuchanan]

12 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

You just don’t seem to like them much when you post about them in shout box during games or threads.  All good, Go Bills

I'm just able to criticize players I like, because I want them to be better instead of just thinking they're perfect when they aren't.

[Real McClappy]

4 minutes ago, gobills404 said:

We know for a fact he was concussed on this play, and he didn’t become a turnover machine afterwards 🤷‍♂️

 

You understand that no 2 concussions are the same correct?

[Alphadawg7]

1 minute ago, gobills404 said:

I think he got concussed gain at the Jets last year too. And in the 2nd half of the packers game. And the 2nd half of the Vikings game. And in the playoffs last year. And against the Jags and Falcons in 2021. 

Im not saying he was concussed, but saying he’s had other bad games before has literally nothing to do with whether he was concussed or affected in this one.  Every great QB has had many bad games, but that doesn’t mean an injury can’t ever be a factor in any of their other games.

 

Personally, I don’t actually think he was concussed and it was just a situation where he made some bad mistakes pressing too hard trying to do too much.  But at the same time, it is possible given the circumstances of that play they showed so I can’t for sure he wasn’t.  

2 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said:

I'm just able to criticize players I like, because I want them to be better instead of just thinking they're perfect when they aren't.

Coolio and fair enough…but maybe mix in some positivity when things are good too for a little balance  

 

Go Bills!