Week 2 Bills vs Raiders Home Opener!

[78thealltimegreat]

Raiders appear a bit banged up I expect a heavy dose of Brandon Jacobs this week to try to shrink the game.

On the other side Patrick Graham is from the hoodie coaching tree and was dcoordinator with the Fins in Josh’s second year so Josh is familiar with the kind defense they run 

The Raiders do have Maxx Crosby if they can neutralize him the Bills o should be able to take advantage. 
Bills should absolutely win this game comfortably if 17 takes care of the ball. 

[finn]

4 hours ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

Gabe Davis....tick tock...contract season is here. Step up or step out.

I have the sense other NFL players just don't respect Gabe Davis. He may be a good blocker, but he's not much of a threat as a receiver. I wonder if Beane will pull something off. Trade Elam for a decent WR? 

[fergie's ire]

I DO understand the concern based on Monday's performance.  It seems eerily similar to problems Josh and the Bills have had throughout his career.  It also seemed like things were working in the first half.  They didn't score a ton, but against that kind of defense (and lame offense) it's a sound strategy to gain a few yards, play field position, and get touchdowns or field goals when a situation presents itself.  Josh just appeared incapable of being patient with that plan.

 

That said, I think it is particularly hard to play a good defense in the first game in this day and age.  Practice time is reduced, and playing time in pre-season is greatly reduced.  They just aren't used to seeing and reading defenses.  If there is one player I think might eventually rival Brady as a reader of defenses/decision maker, it's Joe Brady.  He always seems to make the right decision.  He threw for what, 80 yards?  The first few games of the regular season are the new pre-season so there is hope that Josh will be a better, or at least more consistent, reader of defenses this year.

[Chaos]

9 hours ago, Jauronimo said:

 Its a long season and week 1 isn't any indicator of future success.  

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/nfl-teams-to-make-playoffs-after-0-2-starts-history-shows-why-cowboys-others-could-be-in-trouble-with-week-2-losses/ar-AA11Y5xR

0-1 may mean nothing.  0-2 seems to be statistically significant.  Since 1970, fewer than 10% of the teams that start 0-2 have made the playoffs. 

[The Frankish Reich]

3 hours ago, BarleyNY said:

Combine all that with a short week and I see a much tougher game than the 9 point betting line.

Yeah, if I were a betting man I’d take the points. The Raiders are seriously flawed but they can do damage. I am not basing this on anything analytical, but I also think Jimmy G is more of a winner than Derek Carr. 

[JerseyBills]

13 hours ago, arcane said:

Ready to get the bad taste out of my mouth.

Sir , I think you have the wrong forum. We discuss football here, not what you did in the bedroom !

But while we're on the topic, what was his name?

😂🤣

[par73]

My expectations  were tempered going into the season. After Monday's debacle, I'm not exactly anxious to see #17 trot back onto the field.

[snamsnoops]

3 hours ago, Chaos said:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/nfl-teams-to-make-playoffs-after-0-2-starts-history-shows-why-cowboys-others-could-be-in-trouble-with-week-2-losses/ar-AA11Y5xR

0-1 may mean nothing.  0-2 seems to be statistically significant.  Since 1970, fewer than 10% of the teams that start 0-2 have made the playoffs. 

cough cough, Cinn last year!

[Scott7975]

1 hour ago, The Frankish Reich said:

Yeah, if I were a betting man I’d take the points. The Raiders are seriously flawed but they can do damage. I am not basing this on anything analytical, but I also think Jimmy G is more of a winner than Derek Carr. 

 

Hmmm maybe. Jimmy G is also Jimmy Glass though.  Potentially, he might not even make it out of this game lol.

[Shortchaz]

3 hours ago, Chaos said:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/nfl-teams-to-make-playoffs-after-0-2-starts-history-shows-why-cowboys-others-could-be-in-trouble-with-week-2-losses/ar-AA11Y5xR

0-1 may mean nothing.  0-2 seems to be statistically significant.  Since 1970, fewer than 10% of the teams that start 0-2 have made the playoffs. 

Soooo… a must win? 

[Scott7975]

2 minutes ago, Shortchaz said:

Soooo… a must win? 

 

As far as I am concerned, every game is a must win.  If we are getting to the super bowl its by starting with the #1 seed.  Too many good AFC teams.  I'm not going to jump off a cliff when we lose some games, but that's my mindset.

[RyanC883]

7 hours ago, TheyCallMeAndy said:

Pro football Reference advanced stats are in:

 

Notes:

Diggs caught 10 of 11 targets. Not ad advanced stat, just a good one. 
 

Kincaid was very impactful. PFR has a “success” rating, which gives a number out of 100 for yards gained vs down and distance. DK had a 100, meaning very good. 
 

Hardy and Cook did not do great on that success scale. 
 

Bernard was credited with 1 missed tackle. He was didn’t allow a reception (0-1), made 11 tackles, and had a QB hurry on his 1 blitz. 
 

Milano’s numbers were very similar (1-2, 7 yards and 1 missed tackle), plus a pick. 

Tre Day was targeted 3 times, gave up 2 catches for 1 yard and a TD. Did have 2 missed tackles (ouch)

 

Benford also 3 targets, 2 catches for 26 yards. Zero missed tackles. 
 

Hyde and Poyer were solid, maybe rusty. 

You realize Josh isn’t going to sit here and answer questions at these pressers like the fans and media are the ultimate authority figures.
 

He owes none of us any explanations/apologies and gives us all ‘coach speak’ answers because it’s what he was taught to do. 

 

Agree that JA will engage in coach speak, but interesting he is following through on what he was taught about that but not about sliding, reading defenses, progressions, taking what the D is giving, etc.  

[newcam2012]

The Raiders game won't be a cakewalk. They went into Denver and beat them. Denver does have a very good defense. 

 

Jimmy G is definitely serviceable and experienced. However, he's limited and can be forced into turnovers. Pressure him. 

 

The Raiders will likely try to pound the rock with Jacobs. The Bills can't have blown assignments and gaps because he will make you pay. 

 

I really interested in seeing how the Bills team responds. How Allen responds. 

[RyanC883]

5 hours ago, Goin Breakdown said:

Hey some honesty out of the organization for once. 

 

what did she say?

[newcam2012]

6 minutes ago, Scott7975 said:

 

As far as I am concerned, every game is a must win.  If we are getting to the super bowl its by starting with the #1 seed.  Too many good AFC teams.  I'm not going to jump off a cliff when we lose some games, but that's my mindset.

O - 2 is pretty hard to come back from. Take into account the Bills schedule too. 

 

IMHO, it's not a must win because there are too many games left. There is plenty of time to go on a run. 

[Scott7975]

5 minutes ago, newcam2012 said:

O - 2 is pretty hard to come back from. Take into account the Bills schedule too. 

 

IMHO, it's not a must win because there are too many games left. There is plenty of time to go on a run. 

 

It's just my mindset bro. I dont actually believe they are all must win. I just don't want to be at the end of the season for the third year in a row wishing we would have just won that one more game... any of them and gotten the 1 seed.

 

Also you kind of contradict yourself here.  Your first two sentences indicate its kinda a must win.  Hard to come back from 0-2. It's one of the easier games on the schedule.  You follow that up with "IMHO its not a must win"

Edited September 14, 2023 by Scott7975

[Dr.Sack]

Allen should be able to hit open WRs and make better decisions. 

[Boatdrinks]

2 hours ago, snamsnoops said:

cough cough, Cinn last year!

Sure, it happens often enough. The vast majority of teams that start 0-2 are just bad . They may not even get to double digit wins. Some good teams just get off to a slow start. Not many , but some. Also , the stat since 1970 . Counting strike years, 10 of those seasons had less than 16 games. That’s less room for error and less games to catch up. The playoffs didn’t consist of more than 10 teams until 1990. Not knocking the stat, but there are some specifics that also contributed . 0-4 seems to be a pretty good indicator - There have only been a handful of teams that made the postseason after going 0-4. I’m pretty sure that a couple of those actually made the Super Bowl , oddly enough. Anyway, you don’t want lose back to back games in the NFL. 

[Brianmoorman4jesus]

10 hours ago, finn said:

I have the sense other NFL players just don't respect Gabe Davis. He may be a good blocker, but he's not much of a threat as a receiver. I wonder if Beane will pull something off. Trade Elam for a decent WR? 

I’d like to see Sherfield start and play more. Let’s see with the offense looks like with more of him and less of Davis. Doesn’t have to be permanent. Just want to see if it’s any better. I like the way he plays. Bring Davis in more rotational like we did early on when he was at his best.

[JerseyBills]

Davante Adams missed practice dealing with a foot injury and Jakobi Myers who had a great week 1 is in concussion protocol , as well as a depth WR missed practice. Brutal for LV. OurvD should dominate 

 

As far as our WRs, Sherfield and Shakir combined for 0 targets. Gotta get em involved.