TheyCallMeAndy Posted September 13, 2023 Posted September 13, 2023 On 9/13/2023 at 1:51 AM, Giuseppe Tognarelli said: There has been no regression whatsoever in physical talent. If he truly regresses, it will be because of the mental/emotional side of the game. He probably wanted to impress his new girlfriend last night. Expand I think (not to blame Dorsey) that he has an ultra aggressive OC, and his ego wants to prove he’s still GOAT Josh. Defensives have been feasting off his ago. 1 1 Quote
Bubba Gump Posted September 13, 2023 Posted September 13, 2023 On 9/13/2023 at 2:07 AM, BillsUberAlles said: LMAO...get off the ledge dude. Like really. Get off the ledge. Expand If you're not living near the edge/ledge, you're taking up too much space. Quote
BillsUberAlles Posted September 13, 2023 Posted September 13, 2023 On 9/13/2023 at 2:15 AM, uticaclub said: No where near the ledge, just bringing up a relevant talking point. Expand This has about as much relevancy as bringing up some random things that has nothing to do with what you are tying to compare it to. 1 Quote
thenorthremembers Posted September 13, 2023 Posted September 13, 2023 Started to regress after year 6 is so oddly specific and easily disproved. His 7th and 8th year in the league were actually better than his 6th year in the league. Not to mention Cam had literally one season on par with what Josh has done in the league. 2015, or year 5 for Cam was a complete outlier in terms of his overall career. 2015, Cam's MVP level season is what Josh has done 3 of his 5 full years in the league. Stop with the narrative, its not accurate. 2 Quote
uticaclub Posted September 13, 2023 Author Posted September 13, 2023 On 9/13/2023 at 2:21 AM, BillsUberAlles said: This has about as much relevancy as bringing up some random things that has nothing to do with what you are tying to compare it to. Expand What are you even talking about? Allen & Newton played the same position and absorbed more hits then needed by playing the same style. It’s not that outlandish to compare the two careers. 1 Quote
zow2 Posted September 13, 2023 Posted September 13, 2023 Josh is just hurling himself into linebackers and turning easy out of bounds scrambles back inside to initiate contact. He’s playing like a mindless idiot and i’m not even talking about the reckless throws. Cam from what i recall was mostly physical regression. Allen is having a crisis 1 Quote
Doc Posted September 13, 2023 Posted September 13, 2023 Hopefully he got it out of his system last night. 1 1 Quote
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted September 13, 2023 Posted September 13, 2023 On 9/13/2023 at 1:47 AM, uticaclub said: The quarterback who appears to be most comparable to Josh is early Cam Newton. Cam's performance began to decline in his sixth year, and now we find ourselves in a similar situation with Josh. As he enters his sixth year, it appears that his performance has deteriorated in every game since the Green Bay game last year. Will Allen be able to revive his career, or will he continue to experience a decline? This is a critical question that needs to be addressed. Expand On 9/13/2023 at 1:59 AM, Simon said: Sorry but that is an absolutely gawdawful comparison, imo. Expand Agreed! Cam made a superbowl. He’s more in Wentz luck territory right now Quote
Buffalo716 Posted September 13, 2023 Posted September 13, 2023 On 9/13/2023 at 3:11 AM, Over 29 years of fanhood said: Agreed! Cam made a superbowl. He’s more in Wentz luck territory right now Expand Josh has the most TDs ever through 5 years... Wentz can't lick his bootstraps 1 1 Quote
uticaclub Posted September 13, 2023 Author Posted September 13, 2023 On 9/13/2023 at 3:17 AM, Buffalo716 said: Josh has the most TDs ever through 5 years... Wentz can't lick his bootstraps Expand That would be Mahomes 1 Quote
John from Riverside Posted September 13, 2023 Posted September 13, 2023 Josh Allen has not taken the injuries. The cam newton was starting to take it that time. Yes he had the elbow last year but nothing more serious than that. Cam Newton was a walking mash unit Quote
Buffalo716 Posted September 13, 2023 Posted September 13, 2023 On 9/13/2023 at 3:26 AM, uticaclub said: That would be Mahomes Expand You would be wrong... Josh is also the only quarterback in NFL history with 3 straight 40 TD seasons 1 Quote
uticaclub Posted September 13, 2023 Author Posted September 13, 2023 (edited) On 9/13/2023 at 3:31 AM, Buffalo716 said: You would be wrong... Josh is also the only quarterback in NFL history with 3 straight 40 TD seasons Expand Mahomes has 194 passing TDs, Allen had 176 total since 2018 Edited September 13, 2023 by uticaclub Quote
Buffalo716 Posted September 13, 2023 Posted September 13, 2023 (edited) On 9/13/2023 at 3:40 AM, uticaclub said: Mahomes has 194 passing TDs, Allen had 176 total since 2018 Expand Take their first five seasons in the NFL and add up their total touchdowns Josh has 177 Mahomes has 159 It doesn't matter that mahomes sat it still counts Edited September 13, 2023 by Buffalo716 Quote
uticaclub Posted September 13, 2023 Author Posted September 13, 2023 On 9/13/2023 at 3:41 AM, Buffalo716 said: Take their first five seasons in the NFL and add up their total touchdowns Josh has 177 Mahomes has 159 Expand Are you counting Mahomes rookie year, when he didn’t play? Quote
Buffalo716 Posted September 13, 2023 Posted September 13, 2023 (edited) On 9/13/2023 at 3:42 AM, uticaclub said: Are you counting Mahomes rookie year, when he didn’t play? Expand Ummm I said first 5 years... plain as day Mahomes doesn't get a bonus year because his first five years doesn't mean he gets 6 Josh is ahead of Peyton Manning, Tom Brady Joe Montana everybody Edited September 13, 2023 by Buffalo716 2 Quote
uticaclub Posted September 13, 2023 Author Posted September 13, 2023 (edited) On 9/13/2023 at 3:43 AM, Buffalo716 said: Ummm I said first 5 years... plain as day Mahomes doesn't get a bonus year because his first five years doesn't mean he gets 6 Josh is ahead of Peyton Manning, Tom Brady Joe Montana everybody Expand On 9/13/2023 at 3:17 AM, Buffalo716 said: Josh has the most TDs ever through 5 years... Wentz can't lick his bootstraps Expand You said "through 5 years" not first 5 years. Montana's rookie year was 1979, his WRs still smoked and sold insurance in the offseason Edited September 13, 2023 by uticaclub Quote
Buffalo716 Posted September 13, 2023 Posted September 13, 2023 (edited) On 9/13/2023 at 3:45 AM, uticaclub said: You said "through 5 years" not first 5 years. Montana's rookie year was 1979, his WRs still smoked and sold insurance in the offseason Expand No receivers were selling insurance in 1979 that were roster players LOL the NFL CBA since at least 1975 the average a roster player makes was 56,000 56,000 in 1975 is over $300,000 today... Nobody needed to be a part-time player in 1979.. $300,000 a year is plenty Edited September 13, 2023 by Buffalo716 Quote
Mr. Wonderful Posted September 13, 2023 Posted September 13, 2023 I love Allen's competitiveness and incredible arm strength but he's breaking down from taking too many hits scrambling. But he has to do it as he will not succeed as a pure pocket passer. He'll be washed up in 3 years ☹️ 1 Quote
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