Update: All -22 stuff Joe Marino Locked on Bills, Now Cover 1 w/ play breakdowns

[Reed83HOF]

 

Focused on themes,

 

Josh Allen was the reason you lost the game.

The easy button throws were there all game; took them some times

times he said no were inexplicable

it's even more frustrating when you study the tape; it's worse than you thought

I watched an extremely immature QB that didn't run the offense well

you become completely aware of the turn-downs, the things he said no to

eyes were all over the place, situational awareness was lacking - forcing throws, not embracing the game script

it was 17 that was the problem

 

Lots of things are good once we move past the bad....

 

 

With the film breakdown, it wasn't Dorsey the easy plays were there. The one INT on the pass to Davis where Whitehead undercut, it was arm arrogance. He had 2 other throws for the first down. On the arm punt INT, he could have ran it (we know), but Knox had a few steps on Mosely for a huge possible gain. The basic breakdown is that, The Jets baited the hero ball out of Allen...

Edited September 14, 2023 by Reed83HOF

[KingBoots8]

It was ugly. The sooner we put week 1 behind us the sooner we focus on the task at hand. I won’t make excuses for it, but Allen knows he was trying to super hero this game way too much. A hard lesson to learn but I’d rather learn it week 1. 
 

We’re on to Vegas. Get a W and get this crap behind us. Let the jets have their week 1 Super Bowl and move forward.

[JohnNord]

8 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said:

 

Focused on themes,

 

Josh Allen was the reason you lost the game.

The easy button throws were there all game; took them some times

times he said no were inexplicable

it's even more frustrating when you study the tape; it's worse than you thought

I watched an extremely immature QB that didn't run the offense well

you become completely aware of the turn-downs, the things he said no to

eyes were all over the place, situational awareness was lacking - forcing throws, not embracing the game script

it was 17 that was the problem

 

Lots of things are good once we move past the bad....

Yeah this doesn’t sound great

[jkeerie]

8 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said:

 

Focused on themes,

 

Josh Allen was the reason you lost the game.

The easy button throws were there all game; took them some times

times he said no were inexplicable

it's even more frustrating when you study the tape; it's worse than you thought

I watched an extremely immature QB that didn't run the offense well

you become completely aware of the turn-downs, the things he said no to

eyes were all over the place, situational awareness was lacking - forcing throws, not embracing the game script

it was 17 that was the problem

 

Lots of things are good once we move past the bad....

A lot of what Josh said about himself in his post game presser. 

[Coach Tuesday]

9 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said:

 

Focused on themes,

 

Josh Allen was the reason you lost the game.

The easy button throws were there all game; took them some times

times he said no were inexplicable

it's even more frustrating when you study the tape; it's worse than you thought

I watched an extremely immature QB that didn't run the offense well

you become completely aware of the turn-downs, the things he said no to

eyes were all over the place, situational awareness was lacking - forcing throws, not embracing the game script

it was 17 that was the problem

 

Lots of things are good once we move past the bad....

This is exactly what it looked like to me.

 

Unprofessional and immature.

 

Peoples’ livelihoods are at stake.  How is Josh gonna feel when his buddy the OC is canned because of him?  
 

Dude needs to GROW THE F UP already.

[Big Blitz]

New OC doing a bang up job.   

[Royale with Cheese]

This really needs to wake him up.

[Success]

JA is going to see all of this.  He'll see everything he passed up - all of the much easier plays that would have kept the chains moving.

 

We'll just have to see how it goes.  What else can we do? This can all be forgotten pretty quickly if we can get on a roll, and Allen gets back to looking like the guy who had us thinking he might be the best out there just a year & a half ago.

 

[JohnNord]

2 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

New OC doing a bang up job.   

New OC?

[SCBills]

5 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said:

This is exactly what it looked like to me.

 

Unprofessional and immature.

 

Peoples’ livelihoods are at stake.  How is Josh gonna feel when his buddy the OC is canned because of him?  
 

Dude needs to GROW THE F UP already.

Great post. 
 

For us, it’s a hobby.   For the team and staff, it’s their life. 
 

Josh Allen is set with generational wealth.  The lower guys on the roster aren’t.  The coordinators and staffers are trying to build careers. 
 

He gets paid a quarter billion dollars because he’s a leader of this business. 
 

Games like this, at this point in his career, should not be happening. 

It’s not just the fans he lets down. 
 

Edited September 13, 2023 by SCBills

[EmotionallyUnstable]

Why can’t we have nice things?

[Big Blitz]

Just now, JohnNord said:

New OC?

 

Dorsey is still new at this.  
 

He is in over his head - his job isn’t just calling plays.

 

We’re not working with year 1 or 2 Josh.  
 

We have a QB off 3 MVP caliber seasons.  
 

What’s the reason for 17 INTs in 17 games under Dorsey?  
 

Josh is ultimately responsible.  But McD needs to get an OC that is the right fit for Josh’s game.  
 

Daboll was a meh play caller to but he got the most out of Josh bc he understood what he does well and doesn’t more importantly what makes him tick.  

[buffblue]

Allen better get it together. I won't lie, I'm a little concerned about him bouncing back even against a mediocre Raiders defense at home. He looked like a beaten and broken man on the sidelines and during his press conference.

 

This is the first time since 2019 that I am genuinely worried about Josh's mindset. 

Edited September 13, 2023 by buffblue

[Success]

Man, this guy does some great analysis.  Clearly a fan, but not a homer.  Gonna start watching this more regularly.

 

[Giuseppe Tognarelli]

I'm telling you, this guy was trying to play hero ball to impress Hailee in his first game since they got together.

[Scott7975]

I'm not watching all that.  Guy doesn't even show examples of what he's talking about.  I actually agree with whats said in the OP to some extent but why watch some guy tell it to me for a half hour? 

 

In any case, this is on Dorsey.  Part of Dorsey's job is to get Allen to buy into the offense and make the right plays.  If Allen doesn't believe in the offense then we have the wrong coach. (the game itself is on Allen... I am saying getting Allen right is on Dorsey."

 

I will say this though... people expecting Josh to "just take what the defense gives you brah" for an entire game every game are kidding themselves.  That stuff only works short term.  One mistake and its drive over.  Drive after drive that happens. You don't score points.  Teams like KC can get away with that because that little 2 or 3 yard dump off often goes for 8-15 yards. Our 2-3 yard dump offs go for 3-4 yards more often then not.  Yeah, it will move the chains... if you play perfect ball.  No one plays perfect ball all game every game.

Edited September 13, 2023 by Scott7975

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

29 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said:

 

Focused on themes,

 

Josh Allen was the reason you lost the game.

The easy button throws were there all game; took them some times

times he said no were inexplicable

it's even more frustrating when you study the tape; it's worse than you thought

I watched an extremely immature QB that didn't run the offense well

you become completely aware of the turn-downs, the things he said no to

eyes were all over the place, situational awareness was lacking - forcing throws, not embracing the game script

it was 17 that was the problem

 

Lots of things are good once we move past the bad....

the scatterbrained, jittery stuff was the same as in the Steelers preseason game. I think we all looked past it because it was preseason. But something weird is going on. His pocket presence has just regressed tremendously. 

[PBF81]

If he's ignoring things then that's one thing.  

 

If he's struggling with it, it's altogether another, and a more serious thing.  

 

Curious what the issue is.  Reading D's has never been a strength of his.  Maybe he's simply never picked it up completely.  

 

 

[Giuseppe Tognarelli]

23 minutes ago, Scott7975 said:

I'm not watching all that.  Guy doesn't even show examples of what he's talking about.  I actually agree with whats said in the OP to some extent but why watch some guy tell it to me for a half hour? 

 

In any case, this is on Dorsey.  Part of Dorsey's job is to get Allen to buy into the offense and make the right plays.  If Allen doesn't believe in the offense then we have the wrong coach. (the game itself is on Allen... I am saying getting Allen right is on Dorsey."

 

I will say this though... people expecting Josh to "just take what the defense gives you brah" for an entire game every game are kidding themselves.  That stuff only works short term.  One mistake and its drive over.  Drive after drive that happens. You don't score points.  Teams like KC can get away with that because that little 2 or 3 yard dump off often goes for 8-15 yards. Our 2-3 yard dump offs go for 3-4 yards more often then not.  Yeah, it will move the chains... if you play perfect ball.  No one plays perfect ball all game every game.

This is [redacted]. You can't [redacted].

Edited September 13, 2023 by Giuseppe Tognarelli
I was being a jerk

[buffblue]

2 minutes ago, PBF81 said:

If he's ignoring things then that's one thing.  

 

If he's struggling with it, it's altogether another, and a more serious thing.  

 

Curious what the issue is.  Reading D's has never been a strength of his.  Maybe he's simply never picked it up completely.  

 

 

Agreed. My guess is it's a little bit of both