83 yard run. Sean McDermott made an interesting comment.

[peterpan]

3 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

Just had to get this off my chest because I’m just now listening to some postgame comments.

 

McDermott said they were misaligned on the big 83 yard run.

 

McDermott is never shy about using timeouts, we all know this. It’s kind of a running joke around here. But when he sees his defense outmatched due to alignment he doesn’t call timeout?

 

This is the type of coaching that loses games. 😡

I don’t mean to brag but!!  
 

 

[kjack151]

Did you all realize that since McD has taken over we've had a running back break a long run every year? Dalvin Cook last year, Damian Harris (NE now with Bills), Derrick Henry, Miles Sanders, can't think of the running back from Washington that did it...I don't see this happening with any other team so consistently.  Just an observation.  

[Simon]

1 minute ago, kjack151 said:

I don't see this happening with any other team so consistently.

 

I would guess that it's because you don't watch any other team so consistently?

I'd guess that just about every defense gives up one really long run every year.

[henry jones]

The real question is… How do they not realize there are 8 big bodies on offense and we have 4 on defense?  I mean, they’re on the 2 with Zach friggen Wilson at QB.  They’re not going up top.  Cant believe how many times they go small on defense in obvious running situations.  100% piss poor coaching

6 minutes ago, Simon said:

 

I would guess that it's because you don't watch any other team so consistently?

I'd guess that just about every defense gives up one really long run every year.

This happens routinely every game… to us

Edited September 13, 2023 by henry jones

[HumbleAndHungry]

I think we should swap McDermott for Daboll.  I'd even throw Gabe Davis in the deal to sweeten the pot 

[gjv]

Are we talking about the Halls run of 83 yards that would have gained only 2 yards if Tre White didn't whiff on the tackle?

[Simon]

11 minutes ago, gjv said:

Are we talking about the Halls run of 83 yards that would have gained only 2 yards if Tre White didn't whiff on the tackle?

 

If you take the time to read the thread instead of making smarmy comments, you might learn more about it.

[34-78-83]

6 hours ago, Simon said:

 

My guess is that this one falls on Bernard, who possibly didn't recognize the overload and didn't get them to slide up front.

And who also buried himself inside where Rousseau was being buried by a double and left Tre White isolated outside with contain responsibility.

pretty darn close... it's revealed in Erik Turner's film review of Bernard. Bernard needed to have the whole 2nd level group (LB's plus Trey White) shift one gap over to their left to properly align to the 3TE formation used by the Jets off-balance right.

[HoofHearted]

5 hours ago, TwistofFate said:

The LBs were misaligned. They should all have shifted over to the right. 

Doesn't look like the LBs at all. Looks like we rolled coverage the wrong way. The DL stunts and Backer fits are all working in tandem. Micah is rolling down into a covered gap. He's the outlier.

6 hours ago, TD716 said:

He blitzed the whole second level of the defense on that play. I agree we should be more aggressive compared to the last few years but there is no way Zach Wilson is driving 95 yards for a score

Wasn't a blitz at all. Just dudes being dudes and reading keys and filling gaps fast.

[34-78-83]

3 minutes ago, HoofHearted said:

Doesn't look like the LBs at all. Looks like we rolled coverage the wrong way. The DL stunts and Backer fits are all working in tandem. Micah is rolling down into a covered gap. He's the outlier.

see what you think of Erik's take on it starting at 5:22

 

[Simon]

3 minutes ago, HoofHearted said:

Doesn't look like the LBs at all. Looks like we rolled coverage the wrong way. The DL stunts and Backer fits are all working in tandem. Micah is rolling down into a covered gap. He's the outlier.

 

You guys might be watching different plays.

They didn't get caught in any stunts up front and Hyde is 10yrds off the ball

[TwistofFate]

23 minutes ago, HoofHearted said:

Doesn't look like the LBs at all. Looks like we rolled coverage the wrong way. The DL stunts and Backer fits are all working in tandem. Micah is rolling down into a covered gap. He's the outlier.

Wasn't a blitz at all. Just dudes being dudes and reading keys and filling gaps fast.

I posted the film break down in this thread.  Cover 1 showed exactly how they were misaligned.  It was the linebackers. 

[HoofHearted]

29 minutes ago, 34-78-83 said:

see what you think of Erik's take on it starting at 5:22

 

Yeah, I watched that after the user posted it. Erik says it's just his opinion and what he's saying is logical from the standpoint of just trying to put bodies in gaps, but when you look at the defense wholistically it doesn't really make a ton of sense. We're showing a true 4-3 over front pre-snap to their 13 personnel set. Rapp and Epenesa are clearly working an exchange to the field (Epenesa pinching to B gap while Rapp works C). Everyone else is playing their gap integrity vs the Duo Run Concept they get. Backers see it quick and react quick - really good reads by both of them. We're disguising our Hole coverage as Quarters pre-snap (which is why I don't think a timeout was called - we wouldn't know until the safeties start rolling the wrong way that we're not gapped out and by that point it's too late). Micah is rolling into the box but to a covered gap. Structurally we wouldn't ever put our Mike outside the box and keep our Will inside the box, plus we would never ask a Safety to be an A gap fitter, so the backer shift doesn't make sense.

9 minutes ago, TwistofFate said:

I posted the film break down in this thread.  Cover 1 showed exactly how they were misaligned.  It was the linebackers. 

No, Cover 1 gave their opinion.

Edited September 13, 2023 by HoofHearted

[Bubba Gump]

Jordan Poyer mentioned the alignment problem before we heard from McD. Wonder if there is some miscommunication happening. I really think Sean is taking on more than he can handle by taking over the defense. He also had a strange comment when he said "T-Bass made a great kick". I never knew doinking one off the upright was considered a great kick. And 9/10 kicks that hit an upright usually bounce out. That was pure luck. But I will say that kick was booted. From 50 yards out, it hit the flag at the top of the upright. It woulda been good from 65+ if straight. 

[34-78-83]

15 minutes ago, HoofHearted said:

Yeah, I watched that after the user posted it. Erik says it's just his opinion and what he's saying is logical from the standpoint of just trying to put bodies in gaps, but when you look at the defense wholistically it doesn't really make a ton of sense. We're showing a true 4-3 over front pre-snap to their 13 personnel set. Rapp and Epenesa are clearly working an exchange to the field (Epenesa pinching to B gap while Rapp works C). Everyone else is playing their gap integrity vs the Duo Run Concept they get. Backers see it quick and react quick - really good reads by both of them. We're disguising our Hole coverage as Quarters pre-snap (which is why I don't think a timeout was called - we wouldn't know until the safeties start rolling the wrong way that we're not gapped out and by that point it's too late). Micah is rolling into the box but to a covered gap. Structurally we wouldn't ever put our Mike outside the box and keep our Will inside the box, plus we would never ask a Safety to be an A gap fitter, so the backer shift doesn't make sense.

No, Cover 1 gave their opinion.

Ok, it sounds like the all-22 full view perspective offers that more readily than what his zoom-in shows. And your 4-3 Over familiarity is appreciated. I still would like to think a full group-shift left call (just the distance it takes to get Bernard directly behind Groot, and Milano centered to the O-line) would have benefited angles and leverage like Erik was seemingly alluding to, but idk for sure.

[HoofHearted]

Just now, 34-78-83 said:

Ok, it sounds like the all-22 full view perspective offers that more readily than what his zoom-in shows. And your 4-3 Over familiarity is appreciated. I still would like to think a full group-shift left call (just the distance it takes to get Bernard directly behind Groot, and Milano centered to the O-line) would have benefited angles and leverage like Erik was seemingly alluding to, but idk for sure.

Sure but then that makes Micah your field side A gap run fitter which isn’t something they would do.

[The Helmet of]

35 minutes ago, Bubba Gump said:

Jordan Poyer mentioned the alignment problem before we heard from McD. Wonder if there is some miscommunication happening. I really think Sean is taking on more than he can handle by taking over the defense. He also had a strange comment when he said "T-Bass made a great kick". I never knew doinking one off the upright was considered a great kick. And 9/10 kicks that hit an upright usually bounce out. That was pure luck. But I will say that kick was booted. From 50 yards out, it hit the flag at the top of the upright. It woulda been good from 65+ if straight. 

 If it the football goes through the uprights it's a great kick. If it misses, it's a terrible kick. It's pretty black and white. 

 

Aside from that, McDermott should be on the hot seat. If you're not getting better, you're getting worse. What's his plan for team to get better?

[kjack151]

2 hours ago, Simon said:

 

I would guess that it's because you don't watch any other team so consistently?

I'd guess that just about every defense gives up one really long run every year.

I’m suggesting that there is a flaw in the scheme or personnel that allows this to happen every year.  I have seen Bills teams in the past where this does not happen.   I’m also willing to bet that this does not happen to every team, though I have no proof. 

[Bubba Gump]

2 minutes ago, MarkKelso'sHelmet said:

 If it the football goes through the uprights it's a great kick. If it misses, it's a terrible kick. It's pretty black and white. 

 

Aside from that, McDermott should be on the hot seat. If you're not getting better, you're getting worse. What's his plan for team to get better?

 

McDermott should've been on the hot seat after 13 seconds. His ass should be on fire right now. And him letting Allen basically choose his own OC is a problem. Did the Bills even interview anyone else for the OC job? I can't remember. 

[John from Riverside]

Guaranteed if McDermott was using his timeouts every time he didn’t see some thing he liked people would be losing their ***** here that he was wasting time outs