Do the Bills need a " Quarterback Whisperer?"

[Bagwell358]

Im sure he does.

 

I also think Brandon Beane needs a talent evaluator guru so we stop missing on 1st, 2nd and 3rd round picks year after. 

[Shaw66]

15 minutes ago, KDIGGZ said:

He needs a sports psychologist. He said he hasn't tried one. Seems like an obvious thing to try. Instead of/in addition to he should try hypnosis. They can get people to stop being self destructive. That's exactly what Josh is doing. Some kind of mental block where he seeks chaos or something. I see it in my wife's friends. They won't date nice guys, too boring, they have to go for a-holes because they enjoy the drama!

I agree.  Josh needs to get his head on straight for games. He has to learn how to focus and stay focused.  It's a mental skill, and that's what sports psychologists do.  

[Augie]

10 minutes ago, Trust The Process said:

Allen regressed under Dorsey. Allen needs a premier OC, one that he respects and is held accountable. Dorsey is Allen's buddy and does what he pleases. Daboll on the other hand is someone who Allen respected, someone who coached up Allen. 

 

Josh needs a calming voice, one settling down the space between his ears. I don’t think Mr Tablet Smasher fits the bill. 

2 minutes ago, Shaw66 said:

I agree.  Josh needs to get his head on straight for games. He has to learn how to focus and stay focused.  It's a mental skill, and that's what sports psychologists do.  

 

There was a sports psychologist in our tennis group. Everybody knew if you moved in a little bit to challenge his second serve, he would double fault on cue. 

 

Don was a nice guy, but I never saw him professionally.  😋

 

Josh needs a GOOD sports psychologist. Like the one from Ted Lasso who could magically change seats on you moving closer. 

[Returntoglory]

Josh is on a collision course with living up to his pre-draft expectations. 

[JaCrispy]

Josh will never be allowed to call his own plays…🤣

[oldmanfan]

We all love Josh.  Yesterday was an aberration, but clearly he needs to accept that less us sometimes more.  I would try two things:

 

1.  Have the team leaders sit with him, tell him they have his back, but that he has to play the offense as designed

 

2.  Bring the Manning brothers in (or Brady) for skull sessions and show him where he’s making bad reads.

[frostbitmic]

Does Josh still work with Jordan Palmer in the off season ? ... If not, why ?

[AuntieEm]

2 minutes ago, frostbitmic said:

Does Josh still work with Jordan Palmer in the off season ? ... If not, why ?

Maybe he should spend more time with his offensive weapons and use that time working on plays not his celebrating handshakes with each of them.

[goldenboy81]

With a rookie oc, maybe josh needed a vet qb as backup. He just sits there on the bench by himself most the time. 

[Beck Water]

1 hour ago, Returntoglory said:

Who is with JA on the sidelines to keep his head in check? To talk him down or talk him up?

 

It's obvious to everyone that Josh has free reign to do what he pleases with apparently no restrictions.

 

Crazy high-risk throws and disregard for his body. McD does not seem to talk with him during the game.

 

I say bring someone in that states by his side and keeps his head in check.

 

Fitz would be a perfect candidate!

 

Fitz?  Mr Aggressive Pick 6?  That's your choice to keep Josh in check?

 

I do think that Dorsey, a former college and NFL QB, was helpful to keeping Josh focused.  I think Kyle Allen is too much of a buddy and too junior to be able to rein Josh in or to be able to pick out what the defense is doing.

 

That's supposedly Joe Brady's job, but I felt the role Dorsey filled was absent this year.

[Returntoglory]

Just now, Beck Water said:

 

Fitz?  Mr Aggressive Pick 6?  That's your choice to keep Josh in check?

 

I do think that Dorsey, a former college and NFL QB, was helpful to keeping Josh focused.  I think Kyle Allen is too much of a buddy and too junior to be able to rein Josh in or to be able to pick out what the defense is doing.

 

That's supposedly Joe Brady's job, but I felt the role Dorsey filled was absent this year.

Fitz has the mental acuity to do the job. 

[Beck Water]

4 minutes ago, goldenboy81 said:

With a rookie oc, maybe josh needed a vet qb as backup. He just sits there on the bench by himself most the time. 

 

Dorsey is no longer a rookie, and Josh had two vet backups in Case Keenum and Matt Barkley, last year.

[Scott7975]

I didn't really like Daboll as a coordinator, but he definitely did a better job keeping Allen grounded.  Personally, I think two things...

 

1. They need to hire someone for the sidelines that can keep Allen grounded or find an OC than can and fire Dorsey. The QB coach and Dorsey are not getting this job done.

 

2. I think they are trying too hard to coach Allen out of Allen with regards to him running with the football.  I understand the injury risk but now I think he thinks too much about not running and that is not only going to get him hurt because of his fighting himself thinking about it and not committing to running and also he now is forcing the ball more often than he would have been because he would have took off and run for a first down instead.

[Beck Water]

1 hour ago, Shaw66 said:

I agree.  Josh needs to get his head on straight for games. He has to learn how to focus and stay focused.  It's a mental skill, and that's what sports psychologists do.  

 

I believe the Bills do have a sports psychologist on staff.

 

 

3 minutes ago, Returntoglory said:

Fitz has the mental acuity to do the job. 

 

Mental acuity isn't the question.

 

13 minutes ago, frostbitmic said:

Does Josh still work with Jordan Palmer in the off season ? ... If not, why ?

 

Jordan Palmer has said so in a recent interview on OBL.  He also said he works with Josh and others on Mon/Tues during the season, reviewing film for lapses in technique.

Edited September 12, 2023 by Beck Water

[goldenboy81]

4 minutes ago, Beck Water said:

 

Fitz?  Mr Aggressive Pick 6?  That's your choice to keep Josh in check?

 

I do think that Dorsey, a former college and NFL QB, was helpful to keeping Josh focused.  I think Kyle Allen is too much of a buddy and too junior to be able to rein Josh in or to be able to pick out what the defense is doing.

 

That's supposedly Joe Brady's job, but I felt the role Dorsey filled was absent this year.

Dorsey should get out the booth

[Beck Water]

36 minutes ago, Returntoglory said:

Josh is on a collision course with living up to his pre-draft expectations. 

 

This is actually true.

[UKBillFan]

3 minutes ago, Returntoglory said:

Fitz has the mental acuity to do the job. 

 

There's no reason for Josh to listen to him though. He'll be telling Josh not to do what he himself revelled in doing.

 

The only good thing would be perhaps Fitz could explain his regrets to Josh, and see if that has any impact.

[Beck Water]

1 minute ago, goldenboy81 said:

Dorsey should get out the booth

 

You do realize that one reason Josh and other players (Davis, Mitch Morse, Knox) wanted Dorsey IN the booth is that they felt he got too emotional on the sideline?  Mitch Morse referred to it as "The Holy Spirit comes out of him".

 

When Dorsey was the QB coach and not responsible for decoding the defense and calling plays, evidently he managed to rein that in, but no promises he'd do better on the sideline.

Edited September 12, 2023 by Beck Water

[NoHuddleKelly12]

1 hour ago, UKBillFan said:

 

Dorsey was in the quarterback room at the time so must know that might be needed at some point.

Soft and fuzzies are his middle names! 😝

https://x.com/SharpFootball/status/1574130467443458054?s=20

[UKBillFan]

1 minute ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said:

Soft and fuzzies are his middle names! 😝

https://x.com/SharpFootball/status/1574130467443458054?s=20

 

I have to wonder if any equipment is still working after yesterday!